# Are you too focused on pheromones **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 15, 2007, 9:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-you-too-focused-on-pheromones/3148 "2007-04-15T21:35:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![snowy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@snowy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snowy)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 9:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-you-too-focused-on-pheromones/3148/1 "2007-04-15T21:35:52Z")
Pheromones are a means to an end. The main uses are: attracting a new lover, improving your various interpersonal relationships, improving your career. I get the impression alot of people on this board focus way too much on [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) as a way of acheiving these goals. Im not denying pheromones work. I think that for the 15-20% difference that they make to your interactions pheromones are worth the money. This is a pheromone forum so of course everyone stays on topic but I get the impression alot of people spend too much time deciding what combination of pheromones they are going to wear and not enough thinking about what kind of personallity attracts and keeps a good lover. I think (emphasis) _SOME_ of you treat pheromones as a magic bullet that will make drastic improvements to your life with minimal effort which is mistaken. I do dating coaching and ive seen alot of guys go from being the kind of shy guy who has very little success to being confident and happy in themselves and having lots of success (myself included). This transition must be holistic. You need to go to the gym, take up interesting hobbies, wear better clothes, make new interesting friends (and sometimes leave behind one or two old ones who wont accept the new you), think super positively and above all be willing to confront your issues and do things you are afraid of like approach a woman in the street or assert yourself to someone who your sick of bossing you around. Unfortunately a better life doesnt come in a handy 10ml bottle for only £15 but takes time and effort. I use the above example because it is something I have experience in but the principal is the same whatever apect of your life you are trying to impove. ---
**Author:** ![Dj\_clue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Dj\_clue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dj_clue)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 10:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-you-too-focused-on-pheromones/3148/2 "2007-04-15T22:15:05Z")
I strongly agree!! It seems that people are dependent on it to create their own circumstances. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 10:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-you-too-focused-on-pheromones/3148/4 "2007-04-15T22:22:03Z")
Most experience pheromone users don’t view the pheromones as means to an end. Even if you believe this to be true initially, experience with pheromones will teach you otherwise. Pheromones are only part of your overall attractive impression. They are enhancers of appeal and attraction, however, they themselves are not the source of appeal and attraction. The ironic thing is pheromones tend to work best when you aren’t consciosuly relying on them. The effects work best when you are actively and confidently interacting with the people around you, and the pheromone signal you put out is highly congruent to yourself and your behavior. Its in these moments that the really good effects come about, often unexpectedly. Overly analyzing the effects, being too conscious of the pheromones you’re wearing, and allowing the act of wearing pheromones affect your mood too much (artificially) can definitely be a pitfall for phero users. There can be a great deal of inconsistency with pheromones, especially when you first start out. If your confidence is vested too heavily in how you percieve the pheromone effects (especially if you don’t know what to look for) it can potentially have a negative effect on your mood. So yeah I agree with you. This is a phenomenon that has been discussed here a number of times actually: > [@80-90% Game, 10-20% Pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/80-90-game-10-20-pheromones/929): > > That’s what I have been observing lately. Today I went to school wearing SD-12, 2 sprays, neck. I didn’t notice anything until class started, and then I got a really exhuberant greeting from one of the younger girls and one of the hotter girls came in and sat next to me. Technically, I forced this, because I sat in her seat. Psychologically, people usually sit in the same place for comfort reasons, and knowing this, I sat in her seat. During class, nothing unusual… but then people started t… ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 10:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-you-too-focused-on-pheromones/3148/5 "2007-04-15T22:28:32Z")
There are a few “new” users who come looking for a magic bullet, but this is the same with every program. I have known some people who focus way to much time with dating coaches instead of creating their own personality. It can be said of pretty much everything that if you don’t work on yourself you wont get results. I do have to disagree that “alot of people on this board focus way too much on pheromones as a way of achieving these goals.” It doesn’t sound if you read much of the board at all to make a statement like that. In almost every post that a new user requests a formula to make them a Sex God the myth is quickly corrected with knowledge and truths. You really should qualify your statement as it is very misleading and not at all accurate. ---
**Author:** ![jpballerina](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jpballerina/32/1004_2.png) [@jpballerina](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jpballerina)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 10:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-you-too-focused-on-pheromones/3148/6 "2007-04-15T22:35:03Z")
I’m with you, steevo. Pheromones are a nudge, not love potion #9. 😉 xoxo jp ---
**Author:** ![Dj\_clue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Dj\_clue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dj_clue)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 10:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-you-too-focused-on-pheromones/3148/7 "2007-04-15T22:53:12Z")
It seems their is only one user switching between two accounts. I duno. Anyways, nice forum, do you guys only support the ones from that site, and negate other brand products?. . ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 11:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-you-too-focused-on-pheromones/3148/8 "2007-04-15T23:32:41Z")
> [@](#): > > I get the impression alot of people on this board focus way too much on pheromones as a way of acheiving these goals. Most of us don our mones, forget 'em and go about our busy days. In the grand scheme of things, artifical pheromones are roughly equivalent to wearing a nice designer shirt or walking with good posture. If this was a shirt forum we’d being discussing shirts. Shirts and pheromones are merely one tiny component of your life that makes you what your are. Like Sigma said, they merely provide mild enhancement. You’re still basically the same guy. You still gotta walk the walk and talk the talk if you want to get anywhere. Besides, this is a pheromone forum! What else is there to discuss? All of us have complicated lives but it’s inappropriate and off-topic to discuss them here. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 12:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-you-too-focused-on-pheromones/3148/9 "2007-04-16T00:38:59Z")
> [@Dj\_clue](#): > > It seems their is only one user switching between two accounts. I duno. Anyways, nice forum, do you guys only support the ones from that site, and negate other brand products?. . Many of us here are participants (or past participants) of discussions on other forums, and users of products offered elsewhere…so though we tend to support their products, most of us aren’t limited to Androtics. You’ll often hear praise of products offered by competitors around the forums, even from the operators of the smartmones store itself. Theres a certain chemical manufacturer we aren’t allowed to discuss, which I guess is ok. (service with them was horrible anyway) The one product you’ll see talked down on quite a bit is pherlure…most of which I think is very much warranted by their questionable ingredients (DHEA), promotion of unrealistic expectations, and deceptive, borderline unethical, marketing campaigns. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 2:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-you-too-focused-on-pheromones/3148/10 "2007-04-16T02:54:07Z")
I still use and like Scent of Eros, NPA, The Edge as well as many raw chemset pheromones from Kroy and a certain unmentionable wholesaler/manufacturer and its childish owner (I was one of the lucky ones and got my order!). Also Essence of Woman is really popular on this forum in the women’s section and it’s purchased elsewhere. I’m glad I found AD but I ain’t tossin’ my other sources. You pick 'n choose the best from each place. It’s nice to have variety and choice. ---
**Author:** ![Godhand](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/godhand/32/2378_2.png) [@Godhand](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Godhand)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 6:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-you-too-focused-on-pheromones/3148/11 "2007-04-16T06:26:11Z")
> [@snowy](#): > > Pheromones are a means to an end. The main uses are: attracting a new lover, improving your various interpersonal relationships, improving your career. > > I get the impression alot of people on this board focus way too much on pheromones as a way of acheiving these goals. Im not denying pheromones work. I think that for the 15-20% difference that they make to your interactions pheromones are worth the money. This is a pheromone forum so of course everyone stays on topic but I get the impression alot of people spend too much time deciding what combination of pheromones they are going to wear and not enough thinking about what kind of personallity attracts and keeps a good lover. > > I think (emphasis) _SOME_ of you treat pheromones as a magic bullet that will make drastic improvements to your life with minimal effort which is mistaken. > > I do dating coaching and ive seen alot of guys go from being the kind of shy guy who has very little success to being confident and happy in themselves and having lots of success (myself included). This transition must be holistic. You need to go to the gym, take up interesting hobbies, wear better clothes, make new interesting friends (and sometimes leave behind one or two old ones who wont accept the new you), think super positively and above all be willing to confront your issues and do things you are afraid of like approach a woman in the street or assert yourself to someone who your sick of bossing you around. Unfortunately a better life doesnt come in a handy 10ml bottle for only £15 but takes time and effort. I use the above example because it is something I have experience in but the principal is the same whatever apect of your life you are trying to impove. I’m a dating coach myself, and I don’t think that too many people on here view pheromones as a magic bullet. I’ll admit that I’ve had alot of fun with my pheros, but it would be ridiculous to attribute all or even most of my success to pheromones. Pheromones might get a few extra women to open me in a conversation. I am fully capable of coming home with a woman I just met any time I feel the urge (without the pheromones). The use of pheromones doesn’t contradict the use of solid game. Also, not everybody has to orchestrate an elaborate overhaul of their entire life to attract women. Some of us are naturals and are simply intrigued by the topic of pheromones. While I agree that working out and having a decent wardrobe is good, I don’t think that most of the people on here are wasting away on a couch eating donuts while wearing plaid golf outfits. Give us a little more credit…😃 ---
**Author:** ![muffinman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/muffinman/32/1031_2.png) [@muffinman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/muffinman)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 10:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-you-too-focused-on-pheromones/3148/12 "2007-04-16T10:44:07Z")
You could probably do everything you could’ve done on pheromones anyway… (i.e attact the opposite sex) but it would have probably taken you a bit more time, effort and patience. In a world where things evolve so quickly and effortlessly… very few people these days have a great deal of patience. I believe pheromones give people a mental edge (psychologically if you will) because confidence is a state of mind… it’s amazing how things have developed over the years (confidence-in-a-bottle anyone?) But to the uninitiated general public though, their confidence in a bottle is probably alcohol 😉 so, where am I going with this post? I have no idea… I’m intoxicated on some of my friends’ finest home-brew… and I’ll drink to that my friend! haha cheers~ ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 2:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-you-too-focused-on-pheromones/3148/13 "2007-04-16T14:56:13Z")
Pheromones can put you into some new emotional spaces, think of them like a new gym with the next generation of exercise equipment that lets you strengthen emotional muscles you didn’t even know you had… and just like a futuristic gym, you stilll have to be the proactive element and do something to work those muscles… maybe the pheromones will allow you to see that other emotional choices or identity choices ARE possible… so then ask yourself, what WILL you do with those new possibilities ? ---
**Author:** ![unknown\_user88](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown_user88/32/842_2.png) [@unknown\_user88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown_user88)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-you-too-focused-on-pheromones/3148/14 "2007-04-16T16:56:07Z")
_**I don’t mean to sound like i’m praising pheromones too much, but i was in for a shock today, my Actual A314 is in the post but today i used a A134 tester that i got with last order which is probably an MX series, i sprayed 3 sample size sprays of 1314, 2 sprays of IH and 3 of IS. Then i went off for an interview today for a job i applied for, and after talking for a bit with the managing director, he told me i have a good feeling about you, i would like to give you the Job of shift manager of a restaurant when the original job i applied for was something less important, he told me he felt i am reliable, mature (seeing as most 19 yr old coloured guys around here are on that rudeboy shit) and i would be good at supervising the others which came as quite a shock. But i did give him my winning smile pretty often which really does always work for me so you could say i used a bit of game aswell.**_