# As Requested: The REAL deal on using EW (Factors you may not have considered..) **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 20, 2007, 10:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/as-requested-the-real-deal-on-using-ew-factors-you-may-not-have-considered/2612 "2007-03-20T22:52:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![alseides](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alseides/32/1039_2.png) [@alseides](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alseides)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 12:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/as-requested-the-real-deal-on-using-ew-factors-you-may-not-have-considered/2612/21 "2007-03-22T00:41:13Z")
Congrats Tisha! šŸ˜ƒ Knew youā€™d figure out your ā€œsweet spotā€ with EoW sooner or later. ---
**Author:** ![slykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/slykitty/32/1443_2.png) [@slykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/slykitty)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 10:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/as-requested-the-real-deal-on-using-ew-factors-you-may-not-have-considered/2612/22 "2007-03-22T10:34:23Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > Women using Monophasic bcp (Biphasic does not lower the copulin output as radically, Triphasic will lower it only slightly) Nuevo-Ring, Erthro-Cept patch (both last are banned here in the UK as of February this year) and also Depo Provera (that would be me) do NOT have a high natural copulin output at all. > > Itā€™s why Dolly and I can practically swim in Essence of Woman with no ill effects whatsoever. šŸ™‚ > > Ail šŸ™‚ Oh šŸ˜® i am in the UK and i guess that could possibly be why my bf waits for me to initiate (including other factors in the story) as i have been on depo provera for like forever! (well since the birth of my daughter 8 years ago. I reacted really bad to that, no periods, depression everythingā€¦came off it last year, wonder if i will naturally start producing cops again ā˜¹ wishfull thinking ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 1:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/as-requested-the-real-deal-on-using-ew-factors-you-may-not-have-considered/2612/23 "2007-03-22T13:42:59Z")
Hiya! Nope. Your body will need to be at least 24 months clear of the injectable for the copulin output to ramp up again, as remember your body has not been in a cyclical state for a long, long time. I personally LOVE Depo and have not had a cycle for umm..a VERY long time, but many women loathe it. I would DEFINTELY ramp up all your product applications that include copulins, given your case - and if you use EW neat, use at least 8 drops. That should help - a lot. šŸ™‚ Ail šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![slykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/slykitty/32/1443_2.png) [@slykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/slykitty)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 1:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/as-requested-the-real-deal-on-using-ew-factors-you-may-not-have-considered/2612/24 "2007-03-22T13:46:47Z")
oh i will definately try that, yes i loved depo too but i think i was just one of those unfortunate people who got the bad end of the side effects so i am doing a major detox right now! Well my first bottle of EOW should be arriving tomorrow special delivery ohh i am so excited, i am going to test it on my bf tomorrow night šŸ˜ƒ ā€œtaking a mental note to up the dosageā€ ---
**Author:** ![sam17](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sam17/32/1143_2.png) [@sam17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sam17)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 2:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/as-requested-the-real-deal-on-using-ew-factors-you-may-not-have-considered/2612/25 "2007-03-22T14:27:04Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > Hiya! > > Nope. Your body will need to be at least 24 months clear of the injectable for the copulin output to ramp up again, as remember your body has not been in a cyclical state for a long, long time. I personally LOVE Depo and have not had a cycle for umm..a VERY long time, but many women loathe it. > > I would DEFINTELY ramp up all your product applications that include copulins, given your case - and if you use Essence of Woman neat, use at least 8 drops. > > That should help - a lot. šŸ™‚ > > Ail šŸ™‚ So whatā€™s the story with women & birth control??? I havenā€™t been on the pill now for about 3 years, but prior to that was on for about 15 yearsā€¦ where does that leave me in my cop prodution??? i was on the pill- not an injectableā€¦ any thoughts?šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 2:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/as-requested-the-real-deal-on-using-ew-factors-you-may-not-have-considered/2612/26 "2007-03-22T14:42:58Z")
Yep. We already posted about this. I thought it was in this thread, but maybe itā€™s in another. You have virtually NIL of a copulin output if you still are taking, or were on longterm BCP, until your body is at least 3 years free of an oral bcp. Monophasic depletes the output the most, Biphasic sightly less, Triphasic the least of all, so if you are going to use EW, step the amount of drops used up, like Dolly and myself. Ail šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![sam17](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sam17/32/1143_2.png) [@sam17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sam17)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 2:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/as-requested-the-real-deal-on-using-ew-factors-you-may-not-have-considered/2612/27 "2007-03-22T14:54:44Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > Yep. We already posted about this. I thought it was in this thread, but maybe itā€™s in another. > > You have virtually NIL of a copulin output if you still are taking, or were on longterm BCP, until your body is at least 3 years free of an oral bcp. > > Monophasic depletes the output the most, Biphasic sightly less, Triphasic the least of all, so if you are going to use Essence of Woman, step the amount of drops used up, like Dolly and myself. > > Ail šŸ™‚ so after three years can one expect to have "normal " copulin production ( whatever the hell that isā€¦)again or are you pretty much ā€œscarred for lifeā€ and become a low producer from thereon out? ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 2:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/as-requested-the-real-deal-on-using-ew-factors-you-may-not-have-considered/2612/28 "2007-03-22T14:59:20Z")
After 3 years your levels are almost normal again, but remember after you turn 35, the levels naturally drop by approx. 35%-37% in any case, so you will always have less of an output than you did have before taking BCP. Ail šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/as-requested-the-real-deal-on-using-ew-factors-you-may-not-have-considered/2612/29 "2007-03-22T16:46:46Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > After 3 years your levels are almost normal again, but remember after you turn 35, the levels naturally drop by approx. 35%-37% in any case, so you will always have less of an output than you did have before taking BCP. > > Ail šŸ™‚ Yeah, Iā€™m screwed all the way around as far a natural cops goā€¦knockinā€™ on 40 yrs old, bc for 20 years, and now a tubal and an ablationā€¦I donā€™t know if my body will EVER produce copsā€¦thatā€™s okā€¦if I can get the synthetic ones, Iā€™ll be good to goā€¦šŸ™„ ---
**Author:** ![lomu11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a183cd/32.png) [@lomu11](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lomu11)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 6:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/as-requested-the-real-deal-on-using-ew-factors-you-may-not-have-considered/2612/30 "2007-03-23T06:05:59Z")
Is there a male product that is intended to do what eow does for women. Are tuth or ammo similar in nature or is eowā€™s effect so much more potent on its victims? ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 7:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/as-requested-the-real-deal-on-using-ew-factors-you-may-not-have-considered/2612/31 "2007-03-23T07:23:43Z")
> [@lomu11](#): > > Is there a male product that is intended to do what eow does for women. Are Turn Up The Heat or ammo similar in nature or is eowā€™s effect so much more potent on its victims? Nope Copulins are the only molecules linked directly to sexual arousal. They are secreted in elevated doses while a woman is ovulating so signal fertility, and illicit the sexual attention of a male. As far as we know, no [male pheromones](https://phero.com/) are known to directly arouse women, not even androstenone. They seem to work in a more indirect fashion, signaling specific characteristics that could be sexually appealing to women. ie - androstenone aggression can be sexually stimulating in the right context. Unfortunately for men, pheromone use is a lot less cut and dry than it is for the ladies ---
**Author:** ![chirimoya](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chirimoya/32/1538_2.png) [@chirimoya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chirimoya)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 8:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/as-requested-the-real-deal-on-using-ew-factors-you-may-not-have-considered/2612/32 "2007-03-28T20:12:24Z")
This is such an informative post. Iā€™ve been catching up since I was away and this one definitely needs to be made a sticky! The info on women and BCPs is especially important and to have that in a sticky will be useful. Iā€™ve been on BCP for probably half my life, on and off (mostly on). In the last 15 years, I have had maybe 3 years off, 2 years of depo (couldnā€™t tolerate it; terrible weight gain and depression). Iā€™m on a triphasic now, but I am absolutely aware of the changing nature (and scent) of my vaginal secretions as I age. Not to get graphic, but I remember being a teenager/young 20s and literally dripping with secretions. It was just a normal everyday sort of thing. Sort of amazing to remember those days and now when I pull down my (mostly) dry panties I fondly remember those moister days LOL Thanks Ail and Dolly for the great information about upping EoW dosage for women who are a) on BCP or other hormonal birth control b) around age 35 c) long term BCP users. Iā€™m still experimenting with EoW. I have used it in light concentrations and mixed in other things (EOs, IS/A) for dates with my BF, but I havenā€™t yet tried a mega dose stay-at-home application. That will be an interesting test, and I do absolutely see the validity of applying higher doses (if you fall into one of the categories that might benefit from it) of EoW. ---
**Author:** ![LaurieNY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@LaurieNY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaurieNY)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 9:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/as-requested-the-real-deal-on-using-ew-factors-you-may-not-have-considered/2612/33 "2007-03-28T21:24:43Z")
> [@](#): > > Not to get graphic, but I remember being a teenager/young 20s and literally dripping with secretions. It was just a normal everyday sort of thing. Sort of amazing to remember those days and now when I pull down my (mostly) dry panties I fondly remember those moister days LOL ā€¦Not to get graphic, of course. _falls down laughing_ Lord, I missed you. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![rafayojimbobahamut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c0e974/32.png) [@rafayojimbobahamut](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rafayojimbobahamut)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/as-requested-the-real-deal-on-using-ew-factors-you-may-not-have-considered/2612/34 "2007-03-28T21:48:43Z")
hi, Iā€™m Rafael and I would like you to know that I would want to try these because Iā€™m a cientific person and I also would like to know what kinds of effects does this have on people! Please answer me šŸ†’! ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 7:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/as-requested-the-real-deal-on-using-ew-factors-you-may-not-have-considered/2612/35 "2007-03-29T07:26:35Z")
Interestingly enough, I was looking for something in my closet the other day, when I picked up the stench of EoW (which I hid and lost because it stank up my room). hehe I might start experimenting with it againā€¦just for kicks. ---
**Author:** ![chirimoya](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chirimoya/32/1538_2.png) [@chirimoya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chirimoya)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 12:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/as-requested-the-real-deal-on-using-ew-factors-you-may-not-have-considered/2612/36 "2007-03-29T12:25:43Z")
> [@sigma](#): > > Interestingly enough, I was looking for something in my closet the other day, when I picked up the stench of EoW (which I hid and lost because it stank up my room). hehe I might start experimenting with it againā€¦just for kicks. Essence of Jerk? LOL šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![fishlalala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9a140/32.png) [@fishlalala](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishlalala)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/as-requested-the-real-deal-on-using-ew-factors-you-may-not-have-considered/2612/37 "2011-10-24T00:02:14Z")
hiya, am in scotland myself,just wonder whats your experience with purchasing mones in this website like?? is the deliver fast and if so how long it normally take?? are there any affiliated UK websites for this kind of mones?? thanxxx ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/as-requested-the-real-deal-on-using-ew-factors-you-may-not-have-considered/2612/38 "2011-10-24T00:08:56Z")
Iā€™m in Scotland and I can assure you, delivery is excellent. The DHL international service is very fast - Typically three days for stock items and only five days at the height of last winterā€™s disruption. No UK affilliates Iā€™m afraid and the only EU phero store I trusted went south last year. There is a Polish site selling products similar to Lovescentā€™s range but it rings a good few alarm bells, although some guys have orsered with success. Locescent themselves are reliable but delivery is very slow and Iā€™m often hit with customs fees, which is something I have yet to have happen with AD. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/as-requested-the-real-deal-on-using-ew-factors-you-may-not-have-considered/2612.md?page=1)