# ascend xs instead of a314 **URL:** \ **Category:** A314 Insider's Club\ **Created:** [July 10, 2013, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ascend-xs-instead-of-a314/59552 "2013-07-10T19:46:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![s\_t\_f](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@s\_t\_f](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/s_t_f)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2013, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ascend-xs-instead-of-a314/59552/1 "2013-07-10T19:46:41Z")
Has anyone tried or used ascend xs? Thinking of trying another company since AD really seems to not care about A314 anymore. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2013, 3:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ascend-xs-instead-of-a314/59552/2 "2013-07-11T03:52:01Z")
Ascend (either version) is a great product but its not A314 -Its lighter and more dashing but the cops version has made some people uncomfortable around me at work. APi is far closer to A314 but I don’t find it can be used with as wide a dose range. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2013, 8:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ascend-xs-instead-of-a314/59552/3 "2013-07-11T08:05:56Z")
> [@s\_t\_f](#): > > Has anyone tried or used ascend xs? Thinking of trying another company since AD really seems to not care about A314 anymore. I would go with APi instead of Ascend, in terms of A314 like vibes. I like ascend more when going out. ---
**Author:** ![tye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d6d6ee/32.png) [@tye](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tye)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2013, 10:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ascend-xs-instead-of-a314/59552/4 "2013-07-13T10:59:40Z")
were can i get api ? ---
**Author:** ![s\_t\_f](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@s\_t\_f](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/s_t_f)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2013, 10:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ascend-xs-instead-of-a314/59552/5 "2013-07-13T22:13:15Z")
I would love to try a version of a314 that works, but that doesn’t seem like its going to happen anytime soon. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 12:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ascend-xs-instead-of-a314/59552/6 "2013-07-15T00:46:47Z")
> [@s\_t\_f](#): > > I would love to try a version of a314 that works, but that doesn’t seem like its going to happen anytime soon. Check this then: > **[PheromoneTalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/a314-stock-update-64945.html)** > > Everything about using pheromones to enhance your social life 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 3:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ascend-xs-instead-of-a314/59552/7 "2013-07-15T03:26:17Z")
> [@tye](#): > > were can i get api ? Same place as Ascend XS - APi is currently listed as XS107 in the Beta test section. Google will get you there quickly. ---
**Author:** ![tye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d6d6ee/32.png) [@tye](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tye)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 4:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ascend-xs-instead-of-a314/59552/8 "2013-07-15T16:38:59Z")
what is APi? and were do you get it? ---
**Author:** ![s\_t\_f](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@s\_t\_f](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/s_t_f)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 5:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ascend-xs-instead-of-a314/59552/9 "2013-07-15T17:13:21Z")
> [@tye](#): > > what is APi? and were do you get it? HERE: `https://pheromonexs.com/xs107-beta-api-oil.html?filter_name=api` Does anyone know what smell is closest to akuto? Or what their options smell like? ---
**Author:** ![tye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d6d6ee/32.png) [@tye](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tye)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ascend-xs-instead-of-a314/59552/10 "2013-07-15T17:25:23Z")
thanks!! i think i’ll order some and how it compairs to a314. ---
**Author:** ![Ptblltrader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b19c9b/32.png) [@Ptblltrader](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ptblltrader)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ascend-xs-instead-of-a314/59552/11 "2013-07-16T19:27:23Z")
I have used Ascend oil at work with great results. I can’t compare it with A314 because the only bottles I have of that are rev 31, hence no real effects. The Ascend that I use has cops. However I have paired it with Connections from XS and have never worn Ascend by itself. I have found no problems at work and actually great results. Since using the combo, I have a higher close rate with prospects then I had previously, about a 50% increase so very noticable. Also I find that my boss has stopped telling me what to do when I wear it and has actually apologized to me a couple times when he made me wait. This is not something he had ever done before I started wearing Ascend/Connections combo. So I can’t compare with A314 but for what I wanted at work with respect and people looking to me to lead, Ascend has worked great. ---
**Author:** ![curioustiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5e9695/32.png) [@curioustiger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/curioustiger)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 9:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ascend-xs-instead-of-a314/59552/12 "2014-01-03T21:31:31Z")
> [@s\_t\_f](#): > > Has anyone tried or used ascend xs? Thinking of trying another company since AD really seems to not care about A314 anymore. I’ve tried both. If I go to a meeting and I want to hear open feedback, I wear ascend. If I go to a meeting and want to see compliance without questions, I wear A314. I’m still very approachable with ascend on (oil no cops for work…but I have the cops one too and it works better with men than no cops, but some women seem to get a little irritated when I have the cops on at work). LSS: Ascend seems more laid back, informal, and approachable alpha. A314 seems more serious, formal, and I have to engage people first. Both give me trust and respect…If you follow Machiavelli…I like to call them fear and love. So it depends on the vibe that you want. ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 12:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ascend-xs-instead-of-a314/59552/13 "2014-01-04T00:36:04Z")
There is nothing that compares really to A314 .. I’ve tryed Ascend as well and i did not like it at all .. really nasty vibe from Ascend ! This one is under the 3 worst products i’ve ever had .. in terms of effects on other people .. No positive self effects as well from Ascend .. **Pago** ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 2:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ascend-xs-instead-of-a314/59552/14 "2014-01-04T02:54:38Z")
Which version of Ascend Pago? Cops or non-cops? I must say that of the two, I’ve had the greatest proportion of positive results with the non-cops, whilst the cops can be much more fickle/discomfort generating. Self effects are greatest from the cops version but only in combo with Evolve - which is the only mix I can say gives me a headrush - neither component will do it standalone though. APi is still the one closest to A314 in effect but I can’t go over three drops with it, whilst I can use A314 much more widely in a wider range of situations from 1-8 drops and remains my favourite still (Rev31 excepted!) ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 4:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ascend-xs-instead-of-a314/59552/15 "2014-01-05T16:06:29Z")
Non cops version .. from what i had from XS .. and that’s most of the products .. nothing really impressed me .. Evolve is stuff that works .. but i can get products that level from any other vendor out there .. **Pago** ---
**Author:** ![fishdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4bbf92/32.png) [@fishdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishdude)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 9:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ascend-xs-instead-of-a314/59552/16 "2014-01-05T21:43:30Z")
Can’t replace the A314 rev 32. It’s easy to dress up. Ie. add shine for the rockstar or something more sexual and A314 boosts what you add . Ascend and API have such a large content of mones that it’s hard to steer once it’s on. It does what it wants. I have tried both ascend and API and neither have the flexibility or power of A314 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2014, 1:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ascend-xs-instead-of-a314/59552/17 "2014-01-06T01:22:42Z")
> [@Pagodeiro](#): > > Non cops version .. > > from what i had from XS .. and that’s most of the products .. nothing really impressed me .. > > Evolve is stuff that works .. but i can get products that level from any other vendor out there .. > > **Pago** I’m wondering if age might be a factor here? ie The Ascend formula may be more suitable/lean towards younger guys rather than us? And yes, Ascend is more difficult to steer, except with an overt sexual. ---
**Author:** ![xtraspecial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ccd318/32.png) [@xtraspecial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xtraspecial)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ascend-xs-instead-of-a314/59552/18 "2014-01-08T20:17:44Z")
For me Ascend is very good and dominating. People love giving you their ultimate attention, and see you as the dominant one. I’ve used it with Evolve and it is still somewhat friendly. It is NOT like A314 though. A314 is like the SUPER CEO, and TOP DAWG. Now that Rev32 is out, I’m back on it.