# Asian Produce Less None, Asian Women are sensetive to None. What do i do ? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 8, 2009, 8:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-produce-less-none-asian-women-are-sensetive-to-none-what-do-i-do/25848 "2009-02-08T08:12:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tansri_dato_awesome/32/320_2.png) [@TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TanSri_Dato_aweSOME)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 8:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-produce-less-none-asian-women-are-sensetive-to-none-what-do-i-do/25848/1 "2009-02-08T08:12:29Z")
Ok i heard a few kind of scenarios here. School of Thoughts 1:- Asian male Produces Less none so extra dose the none to see results. School of Thoughts 2:- Asian Women is sensetive to none, so none OD is easily done. So use less None around asian women. My target : Chinese Female. Age : 18-25 My Age 21. Anyone for a lending hand. ? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 8:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-produce-less-none-asian-women-are-sensetive-to-none-what-do-i-do/25848/2 "2009-02-08T08:28:21Z")
Are you East Asian? I’m Korean and have had great success with Korean, Vietnamese, Thai, Filipina and Japanese women while wearing a heapin’ helpin’ 'o NPA or TE. I don’t get along well with Chinese women, so I can’t say much about them. We’re like oil 'n water and immediately fight like cats 'n dogs. Korean and Japanese women tend to be cleanliness freaks and are very sensitive to BO–the basic stink of androstenone. Chinese women seem less offended by funk, maybe because the “scrub it until raw” isn’t part of their culture. Anywho, androstenone helps turn Asians on just like everybody else. Just don’t let them smell it (use a good cover) or they’ll think you need a shower. In fact, remarks about non-Asians having bad BO is a common topic of conversation among the womenfolk. What’s the most crucial is not the mones, but the projection of an attractive persona and apparent material success. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 10:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-produce-less-none-asian-women-are-sensetive-to-none-what-do-i-do/25848/3 "2009-02-08T10:05:30Z")
Well, I’m dating a girl that’s Korean and Japanese, and I can vouch for Gegogi on the thing about BO, and her Vietnamese friend also feels the same. And, the girl I’m seeing thrives on large doses of None, but that could also be due to the fact that she is a former athlete and could whip ass on me or anyone else here. And before you get to wondering what kind of dyke bitch I’m dating, she’s a petite 87 pounds and all woman! 🙂 She’s also under a lot of stress lately, but MX272 works like gold on her, and did pretty damn well on her Vietnamese friend too. It’s not a sexual vibe, but an awesome mood enhancer. On my girl it’s taken her from agitated, stressed out and pretty private, to relaxed, laughing and having a great time, as well as really opening up. On the Vietnamese girl, she acted like a long term friend and completely at ease with me, even though I was told that she’s really uncomfortable around strangers. As to the None, buffer it well and cover the smell. But, know that MX272 could be just the ticket you’re looking for too. And Gegogi, you may well know the name of the girl I’m seeing. It was awhile back, but she did something pretty amazing, although fitting of the Korean culture, and got a ton of attention for it. PM me if you’re curious. ---
**Author:** ![TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tansri_dato_awesome/32/320_2.png) [@TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TanSri_Dato_aweSOME)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-produce-less-none-asian-women-are-sensetive-to-none-what-do-i-do/25848/4 "2009-02-08T15:34:02Z")
Gegogi, > [@](#): > > Are you East Asian? I’m Korean and have had great success with Korean, Vietnamese, Thai, Filipina and Japanese women while wearing a heapin’ helpin’ 'o NPA or The Edge I’m Southeast Asian. Sorry but what is NPA and The Edge ? pardon my lack of knowledge. > [@](#): > > I don’t get along well with Chinese women you mean personally or during [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) usage ? > [@](#): > > maybe because the “scrub it until raw” isn’t part of their culture Sorry, what is scrub it until raw. ? > [@](#): > > Anywho, [androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) helps turn Asians on just like everybody else. Just don’t let them smell it (use a good cover) Does that apply to Ammo and TUTH, which the both of it are already scented ? Mark-in~Dallas, > [@](#): > > And, the girl I’m seeing thrives on large doses of None, but that could also be due to the fact that she is a former professional athlete and could whip ass on me or anyone else here. Hmm, thrives on large amt of None. Means that u have to put alot of none on to turn things the right way, sexual way ? so i presume men need to have high dose of none near asian female ? > [@](#): > > But, know that [MX272](https://pheromonelabs.com/) could be just the ticket you’re looking for too i read that mx272 is like a very good social product. So u are suggesting i use mx272 with my ammo or tuth ? and what is the difference compared of mx272 and IH. Cos i am thinking of getting IHx2 or IHx4 next. Once again thank you gegogi and mark for your input. It definitely help me gain better knowledge. Thanks again.. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-produce-less-none-asian-women-are-sensetive-to-none-what-do-i-do/25848/5 "2009-02-08T17:20:42Z")
> [@TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](#): > > Hmm, thrives on large amt of None. Means that u have to put alot of none on to turn things the right way, sexual way ? so i presume men need to have high dose of none near asian female ? Not necessarrily. Remember I also said she used to be an athlete and could kick our asses. She is quite likely much more accostumed to being around higher doses of Androstenone than most asians. > [@TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](#): > > i read that mx272 is like a very good social product. So u are suggesting i use mx272 with my ammo or tuth ? and what is the difference compared of mx272 and IH. Cos i am thinking of getting IHx2 or IHx4 next. I’ve coined MX272 Instant Mood Lifter, as that’s the effect it’s had on the girl that I’m seeing and her friend. I have not worn it around others, but the effect it has on her is really incredible. [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) encourages deeperr conversation, but does nothing to lift spirits. I do think MX272 contains a helthy dose of BetaNol though, which is the main molecule in Instant Honesty. And yes, you could wear MX272 with Ammo or TUTH. I wore it with Raw Power a couple of days ago. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-produce-less-none-asian-women-are-sensetive-to-none-what-do-i-do/25848/6 "2009-02-08T18:29:08Z")
NPA is a concentrated androstenone product, designed to be diluted 1:5 with cologne. TE is the basically the same thing but designed to be applied directly in manageable doses (read: diluted). Korean and Japanese women tend to spend a lot of time in the shower/tub, hence, scrub it until raw. A former Japanese GF used to joke she used a toothbrush between her “lips.” Mones work fine on Chinese women. We merely suffer from an extreme cultural clash and quickly end up hurling stones at one another. I can handle the hellfire tempers of Koreans as it’s intense and in your face, but forgotten and forgiven the next day. Chinese women tend to be more sneaky and avenge unto the 7th generation… ---
**Author:** ![TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tansri_dato_awesome/32/320_2.png) [@TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TanSri_Dato_aweSOME)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-produce-less-none-asian-women-are-sensetive-to-none-what-do-i-do/25848/7 "2009-02-08T20:28:36Z")
Mark, > [@](#): > > I’ve coined [MX272](https://pheromonelabs.com/) Instant Mood Lifter, as that’s the effect it’s had on the girl that I’m seeing and her friend. I have not worn it around others, but the effect it has on her is really incredible. [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) encourages deeperr conversation, but does nothing to lift spirits. I do think [MX272](https://pheromonelabs.com/) contains a helthy dose of BetaNol though, which is the main molecule in [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) . Hmm.. Mood lifting, so it is something kinda like [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) with mood upliftment for females 🙂 There is just no many mx and p’s but at the moment i will like to stick on the Consumer lines first till i hold strong and just the grasp of Pheromone. But it’s tempting though to see so much good results user has been reporting with the mx, like mx292, mx272, p79, p83 and the likes… Will keep in mind ur recomendation of mx272 with the 1st being in my list on my next order. > [@](#): > > And yes, you could wear [MX272](https://pheromonelabs.com/) with Ammo or Turn Up The Heat. I wore it with Raw Power a couple of days ago OMG !!! Raw Power. Any idea why they arent making raw power now ? it is suppose to be a product targeting Primal Instict and also to be better than Primal. So why is it stopped in production ? I kinda read in some threads that maybe an oil base last so long it is going to hurt the sames of Ammo and TUTH. But with A314 on the constant and Instant Gentleman. Aint it the same scenario ? It confuses me, really. I really hope to get Raw Power as in my country the humidity is so strong and the weather so hot at times. Pheromone really just last at max 3hr or so, maybe 4+. sometime within the 1st hour or 2 it sweats off. Mark when did u purchase ur Raw Power. Cos it kinda seem to have been out of stock for many months. Gegogi, do u have raw power on you and what are the reports u have with this product ? * * * Gegogi, > [@](#): > > NPA is a concentrated [androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) product, designed to be diluted 1:5 with cologne. The Edge is the basically the same thing but designed to be applied directly in manageable doses (read: diluted). So its just basically raw none that i can add into any perfume frangance of my choice ? Is it then good and easy to use ? My ammo aint producing real big banger results. I have gone for 1week of 1spray, 1week of 1.5spray and 1week of 2spray. and multiple time in clubbing/night scene with about 3-5spray. without any eral solid hit that i can attribute to. Minor, yes. solid hard hitting hit, no. Yes i understand the methaphor in pheromone. It gives u the little bit extra advantage the rest u have to work on it. I truly understand that but the minor is just so minor that it’s hit miss. so i cannot totally attribute the hit to ammo or tuth since it is any normal people reaction to give you some minor eye contact, some little smile and it’s it. I did work my way but nothing is nothing. oops run off too far. Where can i get NPA or The Edge ? Under what brands are they and do androtics offer them ? > [@](#): > > Korean and Japanese women tend to spend a lot of time in the shower/tub, hence, scrub it until raw Hmmm.. now i gain another knowledge about another culture. Thanks on this G. > [@](#): > > . A former Japanese GF used to joke she used a toothbrush between her “lips.” Ouch !!! Once again, Thank you both of you. I also welcome more input from other user. Bring forth more discussion and so to enlighten me and also other users. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 10:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-produce-less-none-asian-women-are-sensetive-to-none-what-do-i-do/25848/8 "2009-02-08T22:06:29Z")
NPA and TE are Lacroy products (South Africa). You can buy directly from them or from LoveScent in the USA. Both are still among my fav “horny” products. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 11:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-produce-less-none-asian-women-are-sensetive-to-none-what-do-i-do/25848/9 "2009-02-08T23:57:30Z")
> [@TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](#): > > Mark, > > Hmm.. Mood lifting, so it is something kinda like Instant Female Magic with mood upliftment for females 🙂 There is just no many mx and p’s but at the moment i will like to stick on the Consumer lines first till i hold strong and just the grasp of Pheromone. But it’s tempting though to see so much good results user has been reporting with the mx, like mx292, mx272, p79, p83 and the likes… Will keep in mind ur recomendation of mx272 with the 1st being in my list on my next order. > > Mark when did u purchase ur Raw Power. Cos it kinda seem to have been out of stock for many months. Yeah, MX272 has taken her from being REALLY irritated and upset to relaxed and happy go luck inside of a half hour twice now. It does a whole lot more than IFM though. As to sticking with the consumer products until you have a grasp and can understand what a particular molecule or comsination is doing is definitely the best way to go, and I admire you for having the self-control to actually be able to do it. But, several of the MX’s are really solid and plenty of users are reporting great results with them. I wouldn’t recommend buying up any and everything until you’ve got a feel for pheros and can judge their effects, but there are a few that have consistantly performed for many users, that I think you’d be OK in buying. I got my [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) over a year ago, then a month or 2 later got a tip that when the inventory on hand was gone it probably wouldn’t be back for awhile, if ever. So I snatched up another bottle, just to make sure that I had enough to last for quite awhile. ---
**Author:** ![TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tansri_dato_awesome/32/320_2.png) [@TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TanSri_Dato_aweSOME)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 10:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-produce-less-none-asian-women-are-sensetive-to-none-what-do-i-do/25848/10 "2009-02-10T22:33:52Z")
> [@](#): > > I got my Raw Power over a year ago, then a month or 2 later got a tip that when the inventory on hand was gone it probably wouldn’t be back for awhile, if ever. So I snatched up another bottle, just to make sure that I had enough to last for quite awhile. Dang… I hope i have one with me right now . Anyway really thank you Mark and Gegogi for dropping by and lending me some great help. Truly Appreciated it. Gegogi. Do u have [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) with you and how are the test results if u have them and tried them . Mark. Have u tried primal instinct before. and if yes. How is it compared to Raw Power. It seems like it is really gone for good and i have to settle for the second best. ☹ :sulks: ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-produce-less-none-asian-women-are-sensetive-to-none-what-do-i-do/25848/11 "2009-02-10T23:41:49Z")
Nope, I figure androstenone is androstenone and seem to have more than an ample supply with 2 bottles of NPA, TE, androstenone Experimone and LS chemset androstenone! ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-produce-less-none-asian-women-are-sensetive-to-none-what-do-i-do/25848/12 "2009-02-10T23:49:23Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Nope, I figure androstenone is androstenone and seem to have more than an ample supply with 2 bottles of NPA, TE, androstenone Experimone and LS chemset androstenone! What about TUTH Gegogi? Androstenone is androstenone but how would you compare it to the straight androstenone from Androtics? I’m curious because I just bought my self another TUTH since [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) won’t be available soon, but now I’m curious if straight androstenone would be a better choice? ---
**Author:** ![TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tansri_dato_awesome/32/320_2.png) [@TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TanSri_Dato_aweSOME)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-produce-less-none-asian-women-are-sensetive-to-none-what-do-i-do/25848/13 "2009-02-11T16:31:30Z")
hmm… yeah .. since straight up none is straight up but with company like APR adding and tweaking the ingredients in within. What works best ? ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-produce-less-none-asian-women-are-sensetive-to-none-what-do-i-do/25848/14 "2009-02-11T20:06:16Z")
> [@TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](#): > > Mark. Have u tried primal instinct before. and if yes. How is it compared to Raw Power. It seems like it is really gone for good and i have to settle for the second best. ☹ :sulks: Nope, haven’t used it. I stick with Androtics products. ---
**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 10:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-produce-less-none-asian-women-are-sensetive-to-none-what-do-i-do/25848/15 "2009-02-11T22:12:53Z")
I have used Primal Instinct, But i prefere to use Alpha 7 because it appeared to have been a more consistant product for me, This is probably due to the fact that one drop of A7 contains around 20 mcg AndrosteNone and also 4 mcg AndrosteRONE. The Rone adds a nice smooth touch of class to this product and gives it a subtle apealing attractive edge. ---
**Author:** ![TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tansri_dato_awesome/32/320_2.png) [@TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TanSri_Dato_aweSOME)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 2:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-produce-less-none-asian-women-are-sensetive-to-none-what-do-i-do/25848/16 "2009-02-12T14:33:35Z")
> [@](#): > > I have used Primal Instinct, But i prefere to use Alpha 7 because it appeared to have been a more consistant product for me, This is probably due to the fact that one drop of A7 contains around 20 mcg AndrosteNone and also 4 mcg AndrosteRONE. > The Androsterone adds a nice smooth touch of class to this product and gives it a subtle apealing attractive edge. Thank you for your input terry. But at my age. 21. Is 20mcg too much ? So, you have used A7 as a standalone or do you find that it needs buffer ? ---
**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 7:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-produce-less-none-asian-women-are-sensetive-to-none-what-do-i-do/25848/17 "2009-02-12T19:08:28Z")
> [@TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](#): > > Thank you for your input terry. But at my age. 21. Is 20mcg too much ? So, you have used A7 as a standalone or do you find that it needs buffer ? Sure at your age then 20 mcg could be OD, But if you are low natural Androstenone then one drop may work, or could start with only small dab. I have mixed it with Scent of Eros about 6 drops SOE. The Alpha 7 would work good with some CTTM 2, or [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and other Androstenol prods. Maby some TUTH would be a good Androstenone starter for you. Or can someone tell you when Raw Power is going to have a return to sales, as it would make a safe dab or two. I have had some really good result and few DIHL’s with Alpha 7 x 1 dr and Alpha 314 x 2 dr. I would not advise these amounts for young guys. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 8:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-produce-less-none-asian-women-are-sensetive-to-none-what-do-i-do/25848/18 "2009-03-04T20:12:16Z")
> [@TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](#): > > hmm… yeah .. since straight up none is straight up but with company like APR adding and tweaking the ingredients in within. What works best ? It’s been my understanding that some labs androstenone is not as “good” (pure) as others. So androstenone strength and effectiveness may vary even if it’s “straight.” Androtics reputedly gets the bulk of their ingredients from US manufacturers or other highly reputable sources. AD Experimone androstenone should be up to snuff and at the strength listed (per spray). LS chemset androstenone is probably good too, but I’m not sure if they list actual strength. Don’t recall if NPA etc is “tweaked” or not. I would think that if you are experimenting with any ingredient you should note your sources when you evaluate results. Results may vary from source to source and even with reputable suppliers, from batch to batch. Whenever you are dealing with a “natural” biological reactions there can be a whole host of unexpected variables, including psychological ones. ---
**Author:** ![TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tansri_dato_awesome/32/320_2.png) [@TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TanSri_Dato_aweSOME)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-produce-less-none-asian-women-are-sensetive-to-none-what-do-i-do/25848/19 "2009-03-05T16:44:36Z")
Yeah, i’m also contemplating whether there’s problem with my batch of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). send a return request but was denied cos it isnt said to be defective so cant change. So i’m still looking for the chance hopefully to be changed to another batch for another try ---
**Author:** ![matthie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5ac83/32.png) [@matthie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matthie)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-produce-less-none-asian-women-are-sensetive-to-none-what-do-i-do/25848/20 "2009-03-06T00:25:44Z")
Perhaps it doesn’t work as well for us Asians.