# Asian Women - What works?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-women-what-works/17840>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [August 19, 2008, 2:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-women-what-works/17840 "2008-08-19T14:27:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![just\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/43a26b/32.png) [@just\_guy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/just_guy)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 2:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-women-what-works/17840/1 "2008-08-19T14:27:01Z")

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Hey guys, maybe this has been covered in the many forums out there, but will still ask anyway.  
so here goes. there is this chick i have been trying to attract for a few weeks now. i get to interact with her a lot and usually put on a few sprays of Pherlure [Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) (somehow no one here mentions this product at all!).. thing is, i havent been able to really take it a step deeper.. ie: getting physical.  
just wondering if you guys out there know a few products that has proven to work on asian women - chinese and in the mid 20s.  
that would be really great!  
thanks!

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**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 2:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-women-what-works/17840/2 "2008-08-19T14:49:02Z")

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Hi Just\_guy,  
it’s not so easy to answer to your question. In fact, tehre are a few products that are known to work well with Asians (see the thousands post on this subject in the forum), but I don’t think that the ethnicity may be so much involved with the products, but the social backgroud should make the difference. It’s all about the target. Is she an Asian girl? where she lives? I mean, is she in Asia? Please let us know more. The products that work better with Asians are: Instant Shine, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), AMMO, MX200 (experts only), MX201 (experts only).

See ya

Franz

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**Author:** ![360addict](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/360addict/32/505_2.png) [@360addict](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/360addict)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 3:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-women-what-works/17840/3 "2008-08-19T15:06:50Z")

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> [@just\_guy](#):
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> Hey guys, maybe this has been covered in the many forums out there, but will still ask anyway.  
> so here goes. there is this chick i have been trying to attract for a few weeks now. i get to interact with her a lot and usually put on a few sprays of Pherlure Pheromone (somehow no one here mentions this product at all!).. thing is, i havent been able to really take it a step deeper.. ie: getting physical.  
> just wondering if you guys out there know a few products that has proven to work on asian women - chinese and in the mid 20s.  
> that would be really great!  
> thanks!

Hey Just\_Guy, welcome to the board. I see this is your 1st post. You can post an introduction in the Intro section and be qualified to receive a $15 Gift Card.

Now for your situation..I dont think her ethnicity really matters. The problem here is the product your using. Pherlure basically isnt effective and its sort of a scam. Click on the pherlure name and you’ll be taking to this page which explains why is it that it doesnt really work.

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**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 3:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-women-what-works/17840/4 "2008-08-19T15:19:31Z")

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I’ve attracted men of all races with pheros even in my limited experience, so I guess they work on all races.

I did hear someone mention you mainly attract your own race with pheros. I am mixed, so pretty much everyone is my own race, but I can see how that might not work for someone else.

Also if a girl is not interested in things physical, or not with you or not outside an established relationship, nothing physical will happen even if she is attracted. For many, many women, attraction alone is not enough reason to get physical with a guy, most of us need to feel secure in the relationship first. All a phero can do is enhance attraction, they don’t create an instant love or instant sex.

That said, if you are dating regularly and it is clear that you go on dates, not just meeting up as friends, she is probably attracted to you.

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**Author:** ![theperv584](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theperv584/32/890_2.png) [@theperv584](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/theperv584)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 4:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-women-what-works/17840/5 "2008-08-19T16:11:42Z")

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Asians:  
Oriental: Chinese, Korean, Japs  
South Asians: South Indians, North Indians  
South East Asians: Thais, Viets, Malays, Indons

Quite a few differences. Care to be more specific?

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**Author:** ![360addict](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/360addict/32/505_2.png) [@360addict](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/360addict)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 4:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-women-what-works/17840/6 "2008-08-19T16:13:17Z")

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> [@theperv584](#):
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> Asians:  
> Oriental: Chinese, Korean, Japs  
> South Asians: South Indians, North Indians  
> South East Asians: Thais, Viets, Malays, Indons
> 
> Quite a few differences. Care to be more specific?

Yea he mentioned chinese. Although I still dont think it doesnt make a diff.

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 4:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-women-what-works/17840/7 "2008-08-19T16:22:58Z")

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> [@Chinese girl - which pheros?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chinese-girl-which-pheros/15853):
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> First off, I am completely new to the pheromone game. So I really appriciate any help you might provide! I am Caucasian, Male, and 29. She is Chinese, 19, and moved to California from China when she was 8. Her personality is mixed, most of the time she is a closed book. We have been casually dating for 6 months or so, however we stopped talking for a few weeks recently. Turns out she was seeing another fellow. She still wants to be fuck buddies with me, but I want an exclusive relationship. I…

> [@pheromones to attract asian women?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-to-attract-asian-women/3836):
>
> i’m a black / asian mix, i wanted to know if anyone has any info / tips on [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) which work better on attracting asian women?

> [@The Asian Persuasion - Data Compiled](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-persuasion-data-compiled/15770):
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> I have read every thread on this forum about products to attract Asian women. Here are my findings by number of mentions. mx200(13) Instant Openness (12) Instant Shine (12) Instant Honesty (12) no Korean or Israeli A314 (8) be careful, might be intimidating. for girls in their early 20s AMMO (8) [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) (4) p93 (4) p83 (4) p79 (3) Instant Gentleman (3) use as a base Scent of Eros (3) CTTM (3) mx105 (3) mx103 (2) mx203 (1) EST (1) Enjoy! smiley

Just a couple recent threads on Asians.

Long story short, socials work great, sexuals also work great, but once you’re already in, not when approaching.

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**Author:** ![krazymones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@krazymones](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/krazymones)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 4:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-women-what-works/17840/8 "2008-08-19T16:40:25Z")

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Are you for real…

Off phero-topic but Asians like light scents for cologne (Acqua di gio works wonders)  
Try dumping your pheros in your cologne.

Now…White Women - What works?  
😛 😛 😛

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-women-what-works/17840/9 "2008-08-19T16:46:10Z")

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> [@krazymones](#):
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> Now…White Women - What works?  
> 😛 😛 😛

Are _you_ for real? 😃

[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)? Mx203? Must have missed em, people don’t really use them at all. 😛

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**Author:** ![theperv584](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theperv584/32/890_2.png) [@theperv584](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/theperv584)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-women-what-works/17840/10 "2008-08-19T17:05:02Z")

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If you are talking about mainland China, and if you are of Caucasian descent with descent looks it should be easy on the approach. If you are like say chinese yourself then pheros (and you) should aim to create emotional rapport. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), Instant Honesty… social pheros. I use IO myself.

Chinese girls in general: Key to success is making them feel comfortable as Confucius teachings still hold in chinese households. They take a while to open up (can anyone say anti slut shield?) but once you are in, you’re in. 😃

Not too sure about Phelure tho. Its been kinda negative rated from the forumers here.

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**Author:** ![TheCoop](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thecoop/32/1547_2.png) [@TheCoop](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheCoop)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-women-what-works/17840/11 "2008-08-19T17:50:05Z")

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My girlfriend is Japanese and I work with many Asian women, when I wear A314 they can’t seem to get enough of me.  
when I combine with IS and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) they tend to want to be even closer to me.  
I think it may be a respect/power vibe, as that seems to be an important factor in many Asian cultures 🆒.

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**Author:** ![Gwynevere](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gwynevere/32/847_2.png) [@Gwynevere](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gwynevere)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 5:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-women-what-works/17840/12 "2008-08-19T17:58:13Z")

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> [@theperv584](#):
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> Asians:  
> Oriental: Chinese, Korean, Japs  
> South Asians: South Indians, North Indians  
> South East Asians: Thais, Viets, Malays, Indons
> 
> Quite a few differences. Care to be more specific?

Glad you guys like the Asian ladies…however just a lil correction here that might help attract a quality gal:

- Best not to refer to anyone as “Japs”…while it _might_ seem to be a simple abbreviation, history - particularly in the United States will argue otherwise. Think WWII. It’s always best to avoid racial slurs. They’re not pretty, even if unintended. Japanese isn’t that long to type out 😉

- Second: Also a good idea to not describe a person as being “oriental.” It’s rather passé and could be construed as passing you off as being uneducated. Oriental is really only appropriate for inanimate objects…like food - or a rug. Not pretty girls ^^

The best advice is really to be yourself, and a girl (Asian or not) will be attracted to your personality. The [pheromones](https://a314.com/) might help bring an initial attraction, but nothing will be lasting without that emotional/mental “click”

Good luck!

\<3 gwyn

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**Author:** ![TheCoop](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thecoop/32/1547_2.png) [@TheCoop](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheCoop)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-women-what-works/17840/13 "2008-08-19T18:02:14Z")

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> [@Gwynevere](#):
>
> Glad you guys like the Asian ladies…however just a lil correction here that might help attract a quality gal:
> 
> - Best not to refer to anyone as “Japs”…while it _might_ seem to be a simple abbreviation, history - particularly in the United States will argue otherwise. Think WWII. It’s always best to avoid racial slurs. They’re not pretty, even if unintended. Japanese isn’t that long to type out 😉
> 
> - Second: Also a good idea to not describe a person as being “oriental.” It’s rather passé and could be construed as passing you off as being uneducated. Oriental is really only appropriate for inanimate objects…like food - or a rug. Not pretty girls ^^
> 
> The best advice is really to be yourself, and a girl (Asian or not) will be attracted to your personality. The pheromones might help bring an initial attraction, but nothing will be lasting without that emotional/mental “click”
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> \<3 gwyn

I agree with you these are very true points Gwynevere, very smart advice.

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**Author:** ![just\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/43a26b/32.png) [@just\_guy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/just_guy)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 8:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-women-what-works/17840/14 "2008-08-20T08:07:56Z")

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thanks guys for the many advice and for pointing me to the right directions…

> [@360addict](#):
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> Now for your situation..I dont think her ethnicity really matters. The problem here is the product your using. Pherlure basically isnt effective and its sort of a scam. Click on the pherlure name and you’ll be taking to this page which explains why is it that it doesnt really work.

Geez i dont even know that! i have done some research before purchasing their product and have read 2 reviews stating that they apparently have the “best” product in the market. Thanks for that enlightenment. Any fake products that we all should be aware of?

The girl i have in mind is South-East Asian (singaporean), and she is staying under the same roof as me. we are friends, but i thought i would turn up the heat a little, if u all know what i mean. basically i agree with the many posts citing what pheromones can and cannot do - for eg: it’s the whole package that counts and you wouldnt expect a girl to get all smacked senseless just because we dap a little of these stuffs all over our bodies…

judging from the “database” kindly compiled by [talltetrapod](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/talltetrapod) .. (many thanks), it seems like instant shine, instant openness, instant honesty and A314 are the best bets. seems like i have to wait for my next pay day to get all of them!

ps: any more suggestions of mixes much appreciated!!

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**Author:** ![just\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/43a26b/32.png) [@just\_guy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/just_guy)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 8:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-women-what-works/17840/15 "2008-08-20T08:15:48Z")

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thank you guys for your many advise and for pointing me to the right directions…

Geez i didnt know that Pherlure was actually a scam! i thought i had myself sorted out when i did some research and found 2 review articles that rated Pherlure as the best product there is out there. Apparently not!  
Thanks for the enlightenment anyway!

Btw the girl i’m eyeing is South-East Asian (singaporean) and she’s staying under the same roof as me. we’re not in a relationship or anything like that. but we do get to interact a lot. we are good friends and i thought i would want to turn things up a little (if u all get what i mean…)

Judging by the responses, seems like Instant Openess, Instant Shine, [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and A314 are the best bets… seems like i have to wait till my next pay day to get these products!

more suggestions welcomed!.. thanks.

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 9:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-women-what-works/17840/16 "2008-08-20T09:55:09Z")

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In Honolulu if you called a young Asian American male a Jap, Guk or Chink and you’d probably get beat senseless. If you were too big to take, he’d get ya later when you weren’t looking. Maybe bring friends. Racial slurs are really uncool.

And Gwyn is right about oriental too. Although “oriental” ain’t fightin’ words, it comes off as cavalier and dismissive to Asian Americans, especially educated ones. Avoid it.

About 50% of the population in Honolulu is of Asian heritage and we have every ethnic group from Filipinos to Japanese. I’m Korean, born in the old country but raised in the USA since early childhood. I have to say we ain’t all the same! Reactions to [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) vary considerably among Asian sub-races and cultures. I found East Asians–Koreans, Japanese & Chinese–the most sensitive and least tolerant to androstenone. Southeast Asians and Filipinos are generally more tolerant and responsive to androstenone mixes.

With all that said, the most important factor is you: your manners, speaking style, appearance, cultural sensitivity, etc. I often hear Asian women complaining about White guys being too pushy and loud, so it’s easy to get a cultural misunderstanding when you’re merely trying to come off as “the man.” And whatever you do, don’t utter the “J” or “C” words…

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**Author:** ![theperv584](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theperv584/32/890_2.png) [@theperv584](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/theperv584)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2008, 7:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-women-what-works/17840/17 "2008-08-21T07:05:38Z")

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Sry bout the J word. And the poor categorization. I have been _mislabelled_ as “Ching Chong” twice (I’m of Chinese descent) in Germany before but I myself took no offence to it.

Singaporean Chinese girls? Phatsounds can help you I believe; if not mistaken he is a Singaporean himself.

Me being from the neighbouring country, heresay is that they are more materialistic ( **c** areer, **c** ar, **c** ondo, **c** redit card and **c**??) than what I am used to here in Msia. A314 plus [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) may be up your alley. I am going down soon actually to start work so maybe I can let you know more details a month or two.

It really depends on her personality and background- Parents, friends, environment. So how is she like?

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2008, 7:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-women-what-works/17840/18 "2008-08-21T07:32:48Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Me being from the neighbouring country, heresay is that they are more materialistic (career, cAndrotics Pheromone Research, condo, credit card and c??) than what I am used to here in Msia.

I actually mentioned the materialistic thing but edited it out. Didn’t want to stereotype! But, yeah, guys with big futures, plenty 'o greenbacks, Beamers and European designer goods are far more effective with Chinese women than any [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) can hope to be. As a pro musician I’ve often been dismissed as too poor to date Chinese girls! Been told that to my face by Chinese women many a time. I actually make 6 figures but they don’t know that until too late. Too bossy for me anyway…

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**Author:** ![theperv584](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theperv584/32/890_2.png) [@theperv584](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/theperv584)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2008, 7:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-women-what-works/17840/19 "2008-08-21T07:45:51Z")

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On the matter of mixed race relationships, my father for example would shake his head at even the notion of his children bringing non-Chinese to the family table for dinner (i.e. in a relationship). Its not racism per se but more of being in the comfort zone.

So it could be that for the Caucasians, you are more likely to get a bossy/dominant one; type A personalities. Low chance that she is more submissive/less dominant because they are still conservative in terms of thinking, prefering to follow their family wishes. Different types of men attract different types of women.

@Gegogi, no point that a girl likes you for your money (unless you dig those kind). 6 figures is a healty income tho-- care to share? 😃

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2008, 4:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asian-women-what-works/17840/20 "2008-08-21T16:08:29Z")

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> [@Gegogi](#):
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> As a pro musician I’ve often been dismissed as too poor to date Chinese girls! Been told that to my face by Chinese women many a time. I actually make 6 figures but they don’t know that until too late. Too bossy for me anyway…

It kinda sucks that they turned you down like that…but I have to say, I think it’s awesome that you’re able to do that. I dunnot if ‘able’ was the right choice of words, but I get HUGE kicks outta things like that. She’s thinking, nah he’s got no future, not for me. Meet a different girl that vibes hella well with me, and say, hey you gold digger, I had plenty of gold, but you won’t get to see it now. 😃

I love showing my left hand and hitting with my right foot. 😃

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