# Aside from 'the big four' (P 74, 79, 83, 93), what are your favourite putatives?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [January 1, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aside-from-the-big-four-p-74-79-83-93-what-are-your-favourite-putatives/7920 "2008-01-01T01:32:06Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 13, 2008, 9:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aside-from-the-big-four-p-74-79-83-93-what-are-your-favourite-putatives/7920/22 "2008-04-13T09:41:41Z")

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**Tacitus’ interesting insights on the P100-P103 putatives.** He is missed here I hope he comes back - he has to be back when there are more new putatives to sink out teeth into…

[tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-is-phun-whee-mindless-happiness/2605/3) (March 22, 2007):  
“ **Further experimentations…**

have been playing around with [P100-P103](https://a314.com/product-category/experimental/)… again trying to get a beginning fix on the nature of the critters…

first off the bat, they share a distinctive tequila note on application… like Cuervo… then this tequila scent moderates, depending on which of the 100 series we’re testing… so far I think P103 is the most potent, althought (so far) they seem to share some characterisitcs… in the case of P103 especially, the tequila evolves into something almost rubbery, sort of between rubbery and clean crotch sweat… well, ummm… bodily in a way that distinctly suggests a butyl isomer… butyl things just have this butyl smell… rubbery-butter…

So… watzit good 4 ? Definitely “punchier” than [TAA](https://a314.com/product-category/experimental/), lends optimism, confidence, some behavioral deepening… for example, in our class last night I applied about 100 [mu](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) worth, and some folks were sort of unconsciously clustering around, including one gorgeous babe who got as close as circumstances would permit, and everyone was clearly on their “A” game without being pissy nor competetive about it… leading me to think when you’re truly in a self respecting, high confidence mode you primarily focus on the quality of your own performance and you aren’t too concerned about other people’s juice… the most compelling aspect was that we had the usual amount of fucking up, BUT, here entered a crucial distinction… most crucial, instead of rejecting the fuck-ups as bad things, we found ourselves collectively enjoying them as unscripted learning moments… like not, oh, shit, I fucked up.. but, wow, man… loved how that fuck-up played… so there was this fascinating paradigm shift from blame/shame/guilt to exploration/discovery/possibility… in many ways I find this to be tho opposing energetic field to some of the authoritarian early P series, like [P75](https://a314.com/product-category/experimental/) or [P80](https://a314.com/product-category/experimental/) (the Clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry when pissed pheromone)… and having said that… sometime like a dot of yin in a field of yang, just the littlest bit of of a [P80](https://a314.com/product-category/experimental/) can sometimes add a solidity and realism… anyway… I sprayed on 50 [mu](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) of [P100](https://a314.com/product-category/experimental/) on to my forearms earlier, and am experienceing a good quality lightness of mood and clarity of thought at the moment too.. I calculate P100 to be the TAH of the series and P103 to be the TAL, if those comparisons are of any use… in addition, P103 especially has a distinct fragrance that is rather tenacious and not at all bad, so it could be used well in a cologne mix as an intriguing note…”

[tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-to-test-new-putatives-like-p84-p94-and-p101/2511/24) (March 25, 2007):  
“Anyway… the [P100-P103](https://a314.com/product-category/experimental/) are enjoyable and so far the appear to be useful as personal change accelerators… spraying some on my wrists and then going to bed produces a more satisfying, less tossy sleep… I will be adding this in to a “working-social” mix… by that I mean one to be used within a purposeful group to assist us in getting more of what we came for from the group process… that can be extrordinarily useful, because assume you have a bounded 3 hours to get something done, and the ultimate quality of that something depends on the engagement of each member of that group… if the entire performance curve can be shifted rightwards by a notch, often this happens by increasing the confidence of the least confident memebers of the group, and simultaneously increasing the empathy of the strongest members of the group, so the group process tightens up and the outliers are brought in, and sometimes there is, don’t ask me to explain how, but something Psi or mildly paranormal appears to happen, some collective mind reading, maybe nothing more than normal intuitive awareness raised a degree… then you can witness these important breakthroughs and flashes of insight that may otherwise elude a person… perhaps for their entire lifetime… so I wouldn’t underestimate what can be done with these materials, OTOH, I would avoid “stomping on the accelerator” too much, as this is often counterproductive, overstimulating, confusing as well… there is a magic spot where the right combination of ingredients, at the right concentrations, in the right contexts allow the stars to come out and the aurora to light up…”

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