# Aside from 'the big four' (P 74, 79, 83, 93), what are your favourite putatives?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aside-from-the-big-four-p-74-79-83-93-what-are-your-favourite-putatives/7920>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [January 1, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aside-from-the-big-four-p-74-79-83-93-what-are-your-favourite-putatives/7920 "2008-01-01T01:32:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 11:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aside-from-the-big-four-p-74-79-83-93-what-are-your-favourite-putatives/7920/39 "2008-09-27T23:14:10Z")

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> [@Socrates](#):
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> [First look at P102: I can hear everything!! - #2 by SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-look-at-p102-i-can-hear-everything/2738/2) ([First look at P102: I can hear everything!! - #2 by SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-look-at-p102-i-can-hear-everything/2738/2))
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> SteveO (March 25, 2007):  
> “That’s very interesting to hear. I wonder if the molecule is similar to P101 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)).
> 
> I just got back from Wally World (Wal Mart) myself a few minutes ago. They are in the middle of a massive reorganization project and the store is different every day. Just when you get used to the damn place they change everything around.
> 
> **So anyway wearing 3 shots of [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/) I seemed to know exactly where everything was. I needed a ream of paper and walked directly to the office supply section.**
> 
> Very interesting”
> 
> [P101 at four sprays: a night of uncontrollable laughter with two friends - #10 by SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p101-uncontrollable-laughter/2685/10) ([P101 at four sprays: a night of uncontrollable laughter with two friends - #10 by SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p101-uncontrollable-laughter/2685/10))  
> SteveO (March 25, 2007):  
> “Hey Now,
> 
> Well I posted a bit about my experience at the local Wal Mart on Toil’s thread P102 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)).
> 
> My first experience with P101 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) was full of laughter and yet all the same it was very in-tuned to the Karmic energy world that surrounds us. My first impression of the molecule was it wained rather quickly and you needed massive doses to achieve the desired results of oneness. Tonight I doubt this actually may be true at all.
> 
> I only sprayed myself 3 times with [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and immediately I thought I would need more. I decided hey 3 is enough SteveO, just chill with three. It is almost like an addictive molecule, you want more, more, more, but really according to tonights results its not needed.
> 
> When I got to Wally World I wasn’t spacey and laughy like I was the previous time. It felt as if everything was OK and the jones for more soon itself dissipated. I was definitely still connected to everything in the store. I noticed every glance I received and at one point it felt as if I could hear people looking at me. I can’t really explain this, but it was definitely weird.
> 
> Almost as if it was an old kung fu movie where whenever they even moved slightly there was a swoosh of wind. That’s how it was for me, but only when people were looking at me. I felt very much empowered but so in control. Like when I walked people parted not out of respect mind you, but more like because some how in their mind they heard me say excuse me I need to get by.
> 
> **Heres where it get even stranger. They completely gutted the Wally World and are redoing everything in the store. Moved everything just after you get used to where it was. Last week I left in frustration because I couldn’t find a blasted thing I needed. Today though was different. Today I needed a ream of paper and some new ear buds for my Zune.**
> 
> **I walked right to the ear buds first and then right to the office supply section without even question of where it was. I actually had to navigate through 5 sections to get to the office supply but I knew exactly where I was going.**
> 
> **Is anyone experiencing anything like this?** ”
> 
> [P101 at four sprays: a night of uncontrollable laughter with two friends - #11 by Astralmind](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p101-uncontrollable-laughter/2685/11) ([P101 at four sprays: a night of uncontrollable laughter with two friends - #11 by Astralmind](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p101-uncontrollable-laughter/2685/11))  
> Astralmind (March 25, 2007):  
> “Well just spray 2 shots of p101 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) (on hands, wrists and then applied to pulse points).
> 
> The smell… its like smoked salmon ! Definitly a strong “smoked fish” smell. I probably wont have any social interactions tonight but I find it interesting to test pheros alone in my living room at first. Helps me focus on personal observations before I get into the real fun.
> 
> I do not feel any spacy feeling yet (maybe 25 ,mcg isnt enough) but I feel somekind of an internal warmth. I felt tired before and now altough I still feel physically worn out, I feel my mind has an easier time focusing… **and yet I feel somewhat detached.**
> 
> **A slightly relaxing feeling and somekind of a trippy focus. As if I was watching myself typing this right now instead of really doing it.**
> 
> **Weird**
> 
> Edit : Bleh .. added an extra spray, straight to my face. A weird feeling for sure. Took off my glasses to apply the spray and had a hard time putting them back on. Clumsy yet focussed.”
> 
> [What are P101 effects at workplace ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-are-p101-effects-at-workplace/3988/4) ([What are P101 effects at workplace ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-are-p101-effects-at-workplace/3988/4))  
> Scottie2Hottie (June 6, 2007):  
> “Couldn’t say for sure how [P101] effects those around me other than to assume that they have the same or similar experience as I have when wearing it. It seems to create a state of hightened visual awareness and the anticipation that something big is about to happen…i.e., increased visual vigilance. For those of you who have experienced a major none OD ([Pharmacodynamics - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacodynamics)), you may recall a sense of impending attack (fight or flight)…it’s like that w/out the edginess or paranoia. I just have this sense that something big is about to happen, one of great anticipation and my visual accuity is hightened…I’m constantly scanning my surroundings looking for a source…like I don’t want to miss it when it happens. This seems especially true if I use a cops mix like [mx134](https://pheromonelabs.com/). **It seems to have a somewhat \*\*TAF ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/))**-like effect in enhancing the awareness of a mix…\*\*it’s not that uncommon to get a DIHL type of reaction from others. At least that’s been my experience.”

**Wrlprchnx’s recent posts on P101 seem to confirm that it possesses some kind of ‘big picture/detached/outside the body’ focus enhancing type of effect which is probably at the detriment of ‘detail’ focus (hence people have been calling the effect ‘trippy focus’)…**

[P101 Report - Playing Ultimate - #8 by Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p101-report-playing-ultimate/17570/8) ([P101 Report - Playing Ultimate - #8 by Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p101-report-playing-ultimate/17570/8))  
Wrlprchnx (September 2008):  
“Figured I’d post my latest experiment with P101 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) back here again ~

Playing Ultimate (once again) - I will try it at work eventually, I just wake up too late to even remember to put on my [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/)/IS combo most of the time.

[A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/)/IS in the morning before work (standard 2 drops 2 sprays) - probably a little [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) still hanging around come game-time @ 6:00pm

Applied 4 sprays [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/) to Neck and behind ears

Outdoor conditions - Light Wind, about 15-20 degrees, partly cloudy but the sun was already starting to go down

SELF - EFFECTS -

Similar to last time I felt really “INTO” [the game](http://www.amazon.com/Game-Penetrating-Secret-Society-Artists/dp/0060554738) right from the start. Found I was able to just see the whole field when I was throwing and being blocked (I tend to have difficulty finding people when I am marked) - Overall I found my level of focus was just one gear higher than normal. During one particularily long point I distincly remember coming back to the sideline and barely being able to breathe I had played so hard.

EFFECTS ON OTHERS -  
Initially team morale/motivation seemed fairly standard - There is a bunch of new people on the team for fall league. I did notice that everyone just seemed to start meshing and we started really playing together better after the first time-out (the first time most of the team sat around me for any period of time).

ONE NEGATIVE EFFECT I HAVE NOTICED - **While overall focus, I’d call it “Big Picture” focus seems to improve - I have noticed that I tend to lose a little bit of detail focus. I find it really improved my ability to see the field, see where the frisbee is going - where it should go, but when it actually comes to catching the frisbee (really zoning in on the frisbee - detail focus) - I tend to be a little fumbly fingered initlally after exposure to P101 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) (I noticed this last time as well, but thought it was maybe just a bad day). Right after half-time (where my team would have gotten the highest exposure to \*\*P101 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/))**)\*\* **I found that people always seemed to be in the right place or throwing to the right place but we were dropping the frisbee like mad.**

CAVEAT - it seems like the overall focus boost lasts longer than the fine detail focus loss.”

[Another P101 Test](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-p101-test/20062/1) ([Another P101 Test](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-p101-test/20062/1))  
Wrlprchnx (September 2008):  
“ **Another P101 Test**

## This is also Posted in my journal

P101 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) - TEST at Bowling

Applied 3XP101 about 1 hour before going to the bowling alley.

Self-Effect - I get a little ADD/Hyper when I apply P101 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) - I already have some tics that I do like snap my fingers randomly, with [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/) it is much worse. At the bowling alley it was very hard to settle down and get into the zone. It felt like I had ALOT of nervous energy and I just wasn’t getting it out of my body.

Effects on others - Honestly I wasn’t paying enough attention to other people I was kind of absorbed by the football game.

OVERALL THOUGHTS - [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/) is definetly not a good particle for sports that require you to be calm and relaxed… it took me a good 2 hours after application before I was able to calm myself down enough to throw the ball well… and even then I wasn’t terribly consistent. I will note that my ballspeed was WAY UP - I also have apparently hurt my shoulder, for some reason when I’m wearing [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/) minor injuries like that don’t seem to bother me as much.

Conclusion - [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/) = “Nervous Energy” - Great for sports where you need to really push yourself - Going to the gym pheromone I think, allows you to fight through pain more easily - **Kind of eases focus “outside” of your body but it definetly retracts from inner focus.**

I’m thinking on trying out some more [Putatives](https://a314.com/) with this and creating a workout mix”

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