# Aside from 'the big four' (P 74, 79, 83, 93), what are your favourite putatives? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 1, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aside-from-the-big-four-p-74-79-83-93-what-are-your-favourite-putatives/7920 "2008-01-01T01:32:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 40
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 11:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aside-from-the-big-four-p-74-79-83-93-what-are-your-favourite-putatives/7920/40 "2008-09-27T23:24:53Z")
> [@Socrates](#): > > **More on the mind altering properties of P101 is pasted in below. P101, like P79, TAF, P93, and A314, may be useful in its own trippy way to help people ‘get things done’…** > > [P101: putting on a putative to shake a funky mood in tax season](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p101/2725/1) ([P101: putting on a putative to shake a funky mood in tax season](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p101/2725/1)) > dolly (March 25, 2007): > “ **P101** > > Ok, ladies…let’s liven up the ladies forum here…tired of talking about the same old things!! ALTHOUGH, I DO LOOOOOVE HEARING THE HIT REPORTS!!! > > So, I got in my order of replenishing stock yesterday (I was almost out of all of my experimones… ), and I got a whole bunch of putatives to play with. > > This morning, I woke up feeling kind of crappy…got a sinus issue going on with all of the pollen here, and I only got about 2 hrs of sleep last night. But, it IS tax season, and I have a lot of tax returns to do for another CPA. So, I knew I would be having a full day today…no time to rest. But, I just couldn’t seem to break the funky mood… > > So, I decided that before I started working, I would play a little. I grabbed the first bottle sitting on my table…P101…ok, I’ll give it a shot. One big spray to each wrist…first impression…funky smell…not BAD, just strange. But, after about 5 min, couldn’t smell it at all. > > **Sat here, whiffing it occassionally, and after a few minutes, much to my dismay, my mood starting lifting a little. I started working, cranked out 2 returns in less than an hour, and noticed that I was HUMMING while I was doing it. Feeling a little upbeat…** > > Anybody else played with 101? What are you getting?” > > [P101: putting on a putative to shake a funky mood in tax season - #15 by dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p101/2725/15) ([P101: putting on a putative to shake a funky mood in tax season - #15 by dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p101/2725/15)) > dolly (March 29, 2007): > “So, today, I am pairing P101 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) with [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/). Two sprays [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/) to the wrists, with a sweep of [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) up each inner arm, from the wrist to the crook of my elbow (probably about 4-6 sprays of 5 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) strength). The neroli in the [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) covered the [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/) quite well. > > **Sitting here sniffing it, and feeling it start to kick in…I feel a fun, productive day coming on…feeling motivated to work, and happy about it… …ready and raring to go!** Will post later to let you know how it goes!” > > [P101 at four sprays: a night of uncontrollable laughter with two friends - #11 by Astralmind](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p101-uncontrollable-laughter/2685/11) ([P101 at four sprays: a night of uncontrollable laughter with two friends - #11 by Astralmind](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p101-uncontrollable-laughter/2685/11)) > Astralmind (March 25, 2007): > “Well just spray 2 shots of p101 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) (on hands, wrists and then applied to pulse points). > > The smell… its like smoked salmon ! Definitly a strong “smoked fish” smell. I probably wont have any social interactions tonight but I find it interesting to test pheros alone in my living room at first. Helps me focus on personal observations before I get into the real fun. > > **I do not feel any spacy feeling yet (maybe 25 ,mcg isnt enough) but I feel somekind of an internal warmth. I felt tired before and now altough I still feel physically worn out, I feel my mind has an easier time focusing…** **and yet I feel somewhat detached.** > > **A slightly relaxing feeling and somekind of a trippy focus. As if I was watching myself typing this right now instead of really doing it.** > > **Weird** > > **Edit : Bleh .. added an extra spray, straight to my face. A weird feeling for sure. Took off my glasses to apply the spray and had a hard time putting them back on. Clumsy yet focussed.** ” > > [Quick P101 report](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-p101-report/3381/1) ([Quick P101 report](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-p101-report/3381/1)) > nibbla (April 27, 2007): > “ **Quick P101 report** > > **Got home after a good day’s work, happy but tired. I usually find that my energy bubble deflates shortly after I get home whilst i settle into a different mindset and I would normally ‘come down’ just freewheeling, surfing the net etc.** > > **Today shortly after arriving back home I hit myself with 3 sprays of 12.5mcg p101 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)). Within minutes the urge to organise and tidy took me over. I completely went through my study and about 3/4 of the way through this mass clear out, decided that I needed an extra piece of furniture to properly store my paperwork and other stuff.** > > **I walked into town (15 mins away) to have a look around a particular shop and liked the look of a few pieces. Went back home, got my car, drove back to the shop and bought a piece I particularly liked and returned home with it to continue my re-organisation - now including this new piece of furniture. As I drove I was aware that I was mission-focussed and that nothing was going to get in my way - not aggressively but in a positive ‘there’s not a problem I can’t solve’ way.** > > **I didn’t stop until my wife reminded me that I hadn’t eaten and even then I had to make sure it was all just so. I was like a robot, it was as though I was in a trance and time just flew by.** > > **I had on the remmants of my day mix; A314 ([A314 Classic Edition – Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/)), [Turn Up The Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/), [p79](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and IS but I had a similar experience a couple of weeks ago with just 3 sprays of [p101](https://pheromonelabs.com/), so I’m confident I can attribute today’s experience to this [putative](https://a314.com/).**” **Wrlprchnx also found that it made him and his teammates focus/play harder in Ultimate Frisbee games. While not a great pheromone for sports (and activities) that require you to be calm and relaxed it seems great for sports (and activities) where you need to really push yourself; like we saw in the post above, focus “outside” of your body may be enhanced but P101 definetly seems to retract from inner focus…** [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p101-report-playing-ultimate/17570/1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p101-report-playing-ultimate/17570/1) Wrlprchnx (August 15, 2008): “ **P101 Report - Playing Ultimate** (ultimate frisbee) So I decided to test P101 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) at my ultimate game first. Applied a pretty standard mix whose effects (especially self-effects) I am fairly comfortable with. 2X [AMMO](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) (Chest) 2.5X IS (Neck & Hair) 2X [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/) (Neroli scented, minimum togo [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram)) Decided to go with two sprays instead of one because I was outdoors and was going to be sweating a bit (thought 1 would just wear off too quickly) Immediately after application I got my standard “New Pheremone Headache” - I always seem to get after my first couple applications - The headache went away rather quickly. I found myself being rather playful with my LTR very soon after - she was pretty smiley but really nothing to speak of. **At [the game](http://www.amazon.com/Game-Penetrating-Secret-Society-Artists/dp/0060554738) - potential hit in that after about a half hour of playing I realized that everyone seemed to be really “into [the game](http://www.amazon.com/Game-Penetrating-Secret-Society-Artists/dp/0060554738)”… it could be that we don’t terribly much like the team we were playing and had lost to them twice before - but the team seemed unusually motivated. \*\* Personally I didn’t think I found myself any more focussed or motivated - but I got a comment from someone on the other team that it was fascinating watching me run because I seemed to be putting so much into it. Also, after [the game](http://www.amazon.com/Game-Penetrating-Secret-Society-Artists/dp/0060554738)** I was REALLY SORE (still quite sore) despite the fact that we had more spares then usual so I didn’t play as much as I normally might. I was also laying out for the frisbee all over the place (had comment from teammate about how I was playing more on my knees then on my feet) \*\* \*\*First report on **P101 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/))** - It could have been that my team was just particularily motivated, but **P101 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/))** might have boosted the team’s focus. As far as self-effects - I gotta say I think **P101 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/))** helped me focus more strongly on \*\*[**the game**](http://www.amazon.com/Game-Penetrating-Secret-Society-Artists/dp/0060554738).” `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-journals/wrlprchnx-journal-first-time-pheromones-15739-3.html#post156081` Wrlprchnx (August 2008): “Tests with P101 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) over the weekend - Unfortunately [the game](http://www.amazon.com/Game-Penetrating-Secret-Society-Artists/dp/0060554738) on Thursday was cancelled due to hail and lightning… Saturday morning Application 2X [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/) behind ears. Unfortunately this first application was a waste of pheremones - didn’t realize it was gusting 50 km/h outside and drizzling…I probably couldn’t even smell the 'pheromones on myself nevermind them affecting anybody else. I didn’t notice anything either, other then driving feels different with [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/)… not quite sure how, but it just does. Saturday afternoon (about 5 hours later) applied another 2 sprays (the wind has died down) behind my ears… brought the Togo for during halftime. Reactions - Similar to the first time I used P101 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/))… **my team just seemed really intense, [the game](http://www.amazon.com/Game-Penetrating-Secret-Society-Artists/dp/0060554738) seemed really intense, my play seemed really intense - Applied another 2 sprays when we took a time-out and the score was 5-3 for them… we then proceeded to win [the game](http://www.amazon.com/Game-Penetrating-Secret-Society-Artists/dp/0060554738) 8-7. I found the defense was really tight and everybody was putting it all out there (this could be playoff… but in the morning we were definetly not as disciplined so it could be [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/) helped with focus). \*\* Sunday afternoon… applied 2 sprays before [the game](http://www.amazon.com/Game-Penetrating-Secret-Society-Artists/dp/0060554738) - sunny day, slight breeze. Today was inconclusive… most of the team was REALLY tired because they had played several games that afternoon, some people seemed really in the zone - but the people that were really tired were still really tired - Once again I seemed to be able to push myself much harder then normal wearing [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/)**. \*\* OVERALL RESULTS - Not quite as solid as I had hoped - especially after the first test with [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/). The windy day game showed nothing, \*\*but **[the game](http://www.amazon.com/Game-Penetrating-Secret-Society-Artists/dp/0060554738)** that afternoon it really did feel like I was in the zone, people around me were in the zone and I was able to push myself really really hard. On Sunday it didn’t seem as intense (2X vs. 4X with slight leftovers from the morning) but some people who weren’t as tired seemed to be really pushing themselves hard (however it was also a final so take it however) \*\* I will be testing [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/) again once I start bowlling (in a month or so). 10-pin bowling requires a fair bit of concentration - will try some tests applying [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/) before the first game - adding more in the second - adding more in the third and judging any difference.” [P101 Report - Playing Ultimate - #8 by Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p101-report-playing-ultimate/17570/8) ([P101 Report - Playing Ultimate - #8 by Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p101-report-playing-ultimate/17570/8)) Wrlprchnx (September 2008): “Figured I’d post my latest experiment with P101 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) back here again ~ Playing Ultimate (once again) - I will try it at work eventually, I just wake up too late to even remember to put on my [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/)/IS combo most of the time. [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/)/IS in the morning before work (standard 2 drops 2 sprays) - probably a little [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) still hanging around come game-time @ 6:00pm Applied 4 sprays [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/) to Neck and behind ears Outdoor conditions - Light Wind, about 15-20 degrees, partly cloudy but the sun was already starting to go down **SELF - EFFECTS -** \*\*Similar to last time I felt really “INTO” **[the game](http://www.amazon.com/Game-Penetrating-Secret-Society-Artists/dp/0060554738)** right from the start. Found I was able to just see the whole field when I was throwing and being blocked (I tend to have difficulty finding people when I am marked) - Overall I found my level of focus was just one gear higher than normal. During one particularily long point I distincly remember coming back to the sideline and barely being able to breathe I had played so hard. \*\* EFFECTS ON OTHERS - Initially team morale/motivation seemed fairly standard - There is a bunch of new people on the team for fall league. **I did notice that everyone just seemed to start meshing and we started really playing together better after the first time-out (the first time most of the team sat around me for any period of time).** ONE NEGATIVE EFFECT I HAVE NOTICED - While overall focus, I’d call it “Big Picture” focus seems to improve - I have noticed that I tend to lose a little bit of detail focus. I find it really improved my ability to see the field, see where the frisbee is going - where it should go, but when it actually comes to catching the frisbee (really zoning in on the frisbee - detail focus) - I tend to be a little fumbly fingered initlally after exposure to [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/) (I noticed this last time as well, but thought it was maybe just a bad day). Right after half-time (where my team would have gotten the highest exposure to [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) I found that people always seemed to be in the right place or throwing to the right place but we were dropping the frisbee like mad. CAVEAT - it seems like the overall focus boost lasts longer than the fine detail focus loss.” [Seeking motivation What do you do? - #4 by Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seeking-motivation-what-do-you-do/19635/4) ([Seeking motivation What do you do? - #4 by Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seeking-motivation-what-do-you-do/19635/4)) Wrlprchnx (September 2008): “**Try some \*\*P101 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/))**? It sure seems to help me keep focus\*\*…” [Another P101 Test](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-p101-test/20062/1) ([Another P101 Test](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-p101-test/20062/1)) Wrlprchnx (September 2008): “ **Another P101 Test** ## This is also Posted in my journal P101 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) - TEST at Bowling Applied 3XP101 about 1 hour before going to the bowling alley. Self-Effect - I get a little ADD/Hyper when I apply [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/) - I already have some tics that I do like snap my fingers randomly, with [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/) it is much worse. At the bowling alley it was very hard to settle down and get into the zone. It felt like I had ALOT of nervous energy and I just wasn’t getting it out of my body. Effects on others - Honestly I wasn’t paying enough attention to other people I was kind of absorbed by the football game. OVERALL THOUGHTS - [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/) is definetly not a good particle for sports that require you to be calm and relaxed… it took me a good 2 hours after application before I was able to calm myself down enough to throw the ball well… and even then I wasn’t terribly consistent. I will note that my ballspeed was WAY UP - I also have apparently hurt my shoulder, for some reason when I’m wearing [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/) minor injuries like that don’t seem to bother me as much. Conclusion - [P101](https://pheromonelabs.com/) = “Nervous Energy” - **Great for sports where you need to really push yourself - Going to the gym pheromone I think, allows you to fight through pain more easily** - Kind of eases focus “outside” of your body but it definetly retracts from inner focus. I’m thinking on trying out some more [Putatives](https://a314.com/) with this and creating a workout mix” --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aside-from-the-big-four-p-74-79-83-93-what-are-your-favourite-putatives/7920)._