# Aside from 'the big four' (P 74, 79, 83, 93), what are your favourite putatives?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [January 1, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aside-from-the-big-four-p-74-79-83-93-what-are-your-favourite-putatives/7920 "2008-01-01T01:32:06Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 6, 2008, 11:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aside-from-the-big-four-p-74-79-83-93-what-are-your-favourite-putatives/7920/6 "2008-01-06T11:17:23Z")

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> [@Carrie](#):
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> P85 yielded more aggressive helpfulness from young female retail clerks.

The best of P85 from the forum so far is pasted in below… This one seems to me to be a useful [social pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/)…

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-decent-buzz-with-no-profundity/635/1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-decent-buzz-with-no-profundity/635)  
tacitus (September 1, 2006):  
“ **P85… a nice decent buzz with no profundity**

P85 I would categorize as closer to P87, perhaps without the keen clarity of P87… **wore a good 30 [mu](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram)** of **P85** and went out to eat… the room was soon upbeat and chatty… in a wholesome, talky way… like **P87** there is some of the cobweb clearing, depression eliminating uplift… a lowering of self consciousness… nothing romantic though, no visual glows, no sexy rushes…”

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/most-magnetic-pheromones-for-men/3796/12](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/most-magnetic-pheromones-for-men/3796/12)  
Marik (June 17, 2007):  
“… **There is also something attracting with the P84-P85** …”

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-of-manly-sexy-putatives/4567/3](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-of-manly-sexy-putatives/4567/3)  
Marik (July 17, 2007):  
“… **For they all give a masculine vibe but each with a different taste.**  
P84 seems to be the strongest of the mentionned above.  
**P85** is more gentle i found\*\*…”

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-decent-buzz-with-no-profundity/635/2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-decent-buzz-with-no-profundity/635/2)  
SteveO (September 13, 2007):  
“ **Interesting little thing happened today with my testing of \*\*P85**! I know this is a way old thread, but what better way to keep the forum clutter free than to add to a tacitus thread. \*\*

\*\*I’ve been using **P85** by itself for the last couple of days. Last night at a local book store some college kids got real chatty with me. It was the type of chat you reserve for “trustworthy” old friends. A little disconcerting to hear what they were telling me, but all the same, I got that vibe they felt as if they could relate to me. \*\*

\*\*Today at work my boss up and tells me how much he appreciates me and (no lie) how trustworthy he feels I am. He tells me he has a big project going in Mississippi beginning next year and he’d like me to run it. \*\*

\*\*We’ve always have had good talks but he has never said anything like that before. \*\*

\*\*I’m wondering what other people might be getting from **P85** and if it is still being experimented with. I don’t see many new threads at all on it. \*\*

**I used 25 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram)** unscented to back of hair at 9am.”

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-decent-buzz-with-no-profundity/635/3](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-decent-buzz-with-no-profundity/635/3)  
tacitus (September 13, 2007):  
“Seems about right for both P84 and P85… **P85** \*\* feels like a stronger version of \*\ ***P84…** P84 was my “talk show host” pheromone… you have this confidence exuding, let’s discuss the matter, active listening, getting through-ness…”

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-decent-buzz-with-no-profundity/635/4](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-decent-buzz-with-no-profundity/635/4)  
SteveO (September 14, 2007):  
“Very interesting. I’m going to have to use this one for comfort building.

Thanks for the insight tacitus”

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-surprise/6979/1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-surprise/6979)  
m3turbo (December 2007):  
“ **P85 a nice suprise**

**Today I added P85** to my usual cocktail of pheros and I am quite pleased. Ther were no negative reactions at all. Three different people from two different classes who I can never seem to get to talk to me finally came out of their shell a little bit today . **P85** seems to be a sort of trustworthy adult type vibe . It seems to be a mature sort of phero. Not sexual but good for communication. More testing needed but so far so good. ”

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-surprise/6979/3](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-surprise/6979/3)  
m3turbo (December 2007):  
“Sometimes I opt to make my own blend of Androsterone, Stenol, and stenone to replace the ammo when I feel like using a different scent. But basically the mix is still the same. **Adding P85** sort of gives you a little more credability and trustworthyness.”

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-surprise/6979/4](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-surprise/6979/4)  
m3turbo (December 2007):  
“ **Just an update, the girls who had sort of come out of their shell yesterday continued to do so even more today. P85** still good. Some girls who usually take notice of me have backed off a little so **P85** is definitely changing my aura a little bit. More testing needed.”

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suitable-pheros-to-use-for-a-shy-woman/7523/10](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suitable-pheros-to-use-for-a-shy-woman/7523/10)  
m3turbo (December 2007):  
“ **P85** and or \*\ ***TAL.**  **These two really bring all females but especially the awkward ones out of their shell.** ”

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