# Aside from 'the big four' (P 74, 79, 83, 93), what are your favourite putatives?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [January 1, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aside-from-the-big-four-p-74-79-83-93-what-are-your-favourite-putatives/7920 "2008-01-01T01:32:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2008, 9:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aside-from-the-big-four-p-74-79-83-93-what-are-your-favourite-putatives/7920/9 "2008-02-21T09:56:14Z")

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**The best of P90 from the forum so far is pasted in below. I believe the limited testing of this molecule so far on the forum does not do it justice.**

**My own limited experience with P90 agrees with the notion that it does help with rapport/sharing of thoughts. It is interesting that both Tacitus and PheroQuirk thought that it added something to intimate encounters. I am thinking this molecule might be a good replacement for Beta-Nol - perhaps less ‘emotional intensity’/‘sharing of unfiltered thoughts’/‘serious, non-sexual vibe’ and more ‘only slightly serious (but not neurotic) rapport building with an erotic edge if things get physical’…**

[tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-subtle-a-touch-social-dominant-maybe/23607/2)(November 30, 2006):  
“ **Did I underestimate P90 ?.. maybe so…**

although it may require a stronger application, 100 mu + to kick in… at the gym I observed women were unusually animated, very chatty, almost noisy… same thing occured on the subway… even a reserved brit couple seated next to me became voluble… and I was afforded an unexpected degree of respect throughout the day… although not of the Clint Eastwood P80 variety, nor of the somewhat more erotic P83 variety\*… the upper range putatives so far, P90, P91, P93 appear to have a generally civilized, well sociallized quality…\* P90 quietly exudes what I might term **“empathetic leadership”** versus “authoritarian leadership”… in the direction of the wise, respected grandfather figure… I did notice that in important discussion during the working day, **I could manage the very tricky balancing act of being direct and forceful while maintainin g rapport..**. I have never been good at that likable intensity trick… [P90](https://a314.com/) seems to give one a boost there…”

`http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/pheros-ever-got-you-laid-3792-2.html#post43561\\\`  
tacitus (May 6, 2007):  
“…**while [P79](https://a314.com/)**,P83,P90,P93 all add some deep bodymind animal notes during sex…”

[examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90/3742) (May 18, 2007):  
“ **P90**

If [P74](https://a314.com/) were [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)

**[P90](https://a314.com/)** would be **[Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/)**

**its social, but a little more serious, not as much as [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/)**, but for some reason, there is a sense of comfortable social understanding communication. It’s not wacky, but its as if you and a buddy are sitting down talking politics freely, non chalant over a glass of whiskey.\*\*”

[Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/most-magnetic-pheromones-for-men/3796) (May 22, 2007):  
“ Most magnetic pheromones for men?

What do you guys feel are the most magnetic pheromones? Pheromones that draw people to you, and keep 'em around?

I’m thinking [P74](https://a314.com/) TAA, and a little TAH.

**Some might include [P90](https://a314.com/)** Maybe even Beta Androstenol for select personalities.

What do you think?”

[PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-subtle-a-touch-social-dominant-maybe/985/6)(June 17, 2007):  
“…**I certainly agree with the comparison [of P90] to betanol - at 25 mcg** there is an aspect of compulsive sharing to it. But yes - maybe more exchange of personal opinions and experiences without the emotional intensity of betanol. Sex was intense - this wasn’t the only thing I was wearing, but I wonder if there was some positive impact from the comfort created by **[P90](https://a314.com/)**\*\*

**I don’t have enough experience yet with[P90](https://a314.com/)** to have seen the empathetic leadership quality described by tacitus, but it certainly fits with the vibe I have felt so far.

Tomorrow I am working on a scene featuring two male buddies talking about life so I’ll try stepping a bit more strongly on the P90 and see what happens.”

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