# At the Seduction stage what has worked for YOU: pure -enone vs -enone + LMR reducers

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-the-seduction-stage-what-has-worked-for-you-pure-enone-vs-enone-lmr-reducers/26101>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 15, 2009, 11:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-the-seduction-stage-what-has-worked-for-you-pure-enone-vs-enone-lmr-reducers/26101 "2009-02-15T11:08:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 11:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-the-seduction-stage-what-has-worked-for-you-pure-enone-vs-enone-lmr-reducers/26101/1 "2009-02-15T11:08:16Z")

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 11:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-the-seduction-stage-what-has-worked-for-you-pure-enone-vs-enone-lmr-reducers/26101/2 "2009-02-15T23:21:00Z")

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I strongly prefer the “multi-word” approach. If you figure that each pheromone by itself is “saying” one “word”, then androstenone might say “sex”. But using a series of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) that all generally add up to the goal, you might end up saying, “Come closer, it’s safe and comfortable and fun to be around me, and I’m sexy and arousing, and you want to act on your interest and arousal.”

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 10:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-the-seduction-stage-what-has-worked-for-you-pure-enone-vs-enone-lmr-reducers/26101/3 "2009-02-17T10:28:50Z")

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 5:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-the-seduction-stage-what-has-worked-for-you-pure-enone-vs-enone-lmr-reducers/26101/4 "2009-02-18T05:35:28Z")

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This is a great thread that I will respond to. I need a couple of days to gather my thoughts.

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 7:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-the-seduction-stage-what-has-worked-for-you-pure-enone-vs-enone-lmr-reducers/26101/5 "2009-02-18T07:08:34Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> This is a great thread that I will respond to. I need a couple of days to gather my thoughts.

Damn, I’m still looking for mine too.

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 11:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-the-seduction-stage-what-has-worked-for-you-pure-enone-vs-enone-lmr-reducers/26101/6 "2009-02-20T11:31:42Z")

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-the-seduction-stage-what-has-worked-for-you-pure-enone-vs-enone-lmr-reducers/26101/7 "2009-02-23T06:11:33Z")

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I’ll be traveling Tuesday Vis, so once I’m back in TN I’ll start to compile some stiff for you. Sorry, but been a bit busy getting NLP’d by Bandler

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**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 3:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-the-seduction-stage-what-has-worked-for-you-pure-enone-vs-enone-lmr-reducers/26101/8 "2009-02-23T15:39:35Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> Sorry, but been a bit busy getting NLP’d by Bandler

What you do in private (getting NLP’d) along with a guy named _Mr. Feel Good_ is **strictly** _none of our business_, SteveO.

Not that there’s _anything wrong_ with that.

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**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-the-seduction-stage-what-has-worked-for-you-pure-enone-vs-enone-lmr-reducers/26101/9 "2009-02-23T21:01:55Z")

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Little something I made a couple of years ago.

> [@Pheromones for Pickup: Attraction, Comfort, Seduction](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/9):
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> Attraction MX113 and Shine MX105 and Shine It’s Him (none, TAH, TAL, cops) social proof alpha ladies- PMX 101 & A314 mutant Comfort CTTM IS and IFM MX105 and Shine Seduction IFM, IH, None (shy girls) Shine, A314, None (alpha girls) TAH, TAL, Cops, None (peacock girls)

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**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-the-seduction-stage-what-has-worked-for-you-pure-enone-vs-enone-lmr-reducers/26101/10 "2009-02-23T21:09:47Z")

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oh and now that these some of the mixes like 113 dont exist, I use IG as my main base now, so just replace the mxs I wrote with IG. Im older, so I use a little more charming serious tone with shine refining it and brightening it a little. {as you can see, I’ve always done that, and it’s always worked}

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-the-seduction-stage-what-has-worked-for-you-pure-enone-vs-enone-lmr-reducers/26101/11 "2009-02-23T22:18:23Z")

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 1:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-the-seduction-stage-what-has-worked-for-you-pure-enone-vs-enone-lmr-reducers/26101/12 "2009-02-26T01:59:00Z")

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Hmmm I’ve gone back through a couple years journals and one thing that absolutely stands out over all other mixes. Whenever I am about to encounter a first night I have almost without exception worn TUTH (2.5 mcg three sprays) IFM (3 sprays) Ishine (1x three sprays). I would say 97% of the time this is my mix. I actually have a pre mixed to go bottle in my travel bag that I keep with me. 9 sprays and off I go.

However there have been a few times that I have had some extreme same night encounters with [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/), MX292 and ICM 1.A.

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 11:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-the-seduction-stage-what-has-worked-for-you-pure-enone-vs-enone-lmr-reducers/26101/13 "2009-02-26T11:33:39Z")

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**Author:** ![IncredulousPUA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4af34b/32.png) [@IncredulousPUA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/IncredulousPUA)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 7:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-the-seduction-stage-what-has-worked-for-you-pure-enone-vs-enone-lmr-reducers/26101/14 "2009-03-07T07:05:18Z")

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You guys really dont stop each step of the way utilizing the M3 method and spray different pheromones, do you? It would almost seem if that defeates the purpose of seduction itself. I’m thinking of getting some for the sheer sake of bettering my social circle and the guys I teach, but fuck man, to pay that much credence to this makes it seem like its all pheromones and no you!

I’ve read a great deal and I do think there is some truths here, and I might even get a sprayer of something other than social proof thigs, but this makes it seem like there’s no work at all involved.

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 7:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-the-seduction-stage-what-has-worked-for-you-pure-enone-vs-enone-lmr-reducers/26101/15 "2009-03-21T07:29:08Z")

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 12:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-the-seduction-stage-what-has-worked-for-you-pure-enone-vs-enone-lmr-reducers/26101/16 "2009-03-27T12:52:23Z")

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 8:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-the-seduction-stage-what-has-worked-for-you-pure-enone-vs-enone-lmr-reducers/26101/17 "2009-04-10T08:36:54Z")

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 6:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-the-seduction-stage-what-has-worked-for-you-pure-enone-vs-enone-lmr-reducers/26101/18 "2009-04-12T06:46:25Z")

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 7:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-the-seduction-stage-what-has-worked-for-you-pure-enone-vs-enone-lmr-reducers/26101/19 "2009-04-12T07:28:12Z")

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 9:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-the-seduction-stage-what-has-worked-for-you-pure-enone-vs-enone-lmr-reducers/26101/20 "2009-04-12T09:32:55Z")

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