# Attracting gay and bi women: should a lesbian try EST or female pheromones? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 7, 2007, 2:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/attracting-gay-and-bi-women-should-a-lesbian-try-est-or-female-pheromones/5004 "2007-08-07T14:14:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sunfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Sunfire](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sunfire)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2007, 2:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/attracting-gay-and-bi-women-should-a-lesbian-try-est-or-female-pheromones/5004/1 "2007-08-07T14:14:20Z")
Hi, I’ve seen a few posts on here concerning gay men but little for gay women. I’m a tomboy am looking to attract gay females but i have no idea whether i should be buying the male [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) or the female ones. I’ve read some research and it suggests that gay men and heterosexual women react in a similar way to the male pheromone. Lesbians however do not respond to the female pheromone in the same way. Speaking for myself, i’m not often attracted to heterosexual women, except in rare cases, so the female pheromone can’t have much of a reaction from me. Likewise, i’m also not attracted to men so the male pheromone can’t do much for me either. Which leaves me in a quandry! I think gay women generally have more masculine qualities so i seem to be attracted to a mix between male and female aspects. Neither one nor the other! Does anyone have any experiences of using pheromones to attract women? ---
**Author:** ![Astrocloud](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrocloud/32/1961_2.png) [@Astrocloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrocloud)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2007, 3:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/attracting-gay-and-bi-women-should-a-lesbian-try-est-or-female-pheromones/5004/2 "2007-08-07T15:23:03Z")
It depends mostly. Are you trying to meet bi women or lesbians? You probably want to try EST as a nice study is posted here: > [@Lesbians Respond Differently to Human Pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lesbians-respond-differently-to-human-pheromones/4799): > > Brain scans depict activity in the brains of heterosexual women (left), lesbian women (center), and heterosexual men (right) when exposed to potential human [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) AND and EST. [Lesbians Respond Differently to “Human Pheromones,” Study Says](http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/05/060508_lesbian.html) ---
**Author:** ![Sunfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Sunfire](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sunfire)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2007, 5:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/attracting-gay-and-bi-women-should-a-lesbian-try-est-or-female-pheromones/5004/3 "2007-08-07T17:35:32Z")
I want to predominantly attract gay women but i wouldn’t mind attracting bi-sexual women as well. It seems from reading some research my best bet at the moment is to try the [female pheromones](https://phera.com/). I think this is a subject no-one really knows about yet. Would like to hear from other gay women, if there are any on here, and see what successes they’ve had. ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2007, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/attracting-gay-and-bi-women-should-a-lesbian-try-est-or-female-pheromones/5004/4 "2007-08-07T19:14:04Z")
You may want to look at [this post](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-women-attract-other-women-with-pheremones/4114) from earlier this year.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Astrocloud](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrocloud/32/1961_2.png) [@Astrocloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrocloud)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2007, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/attracting-gay-and-bi-women-should-a-lesbian-try-est-or-female-pheromones/5004/5 "2007-08-07T19:37:51Z")
> [@Sunfire](#): > > Would like to hear from other gay women, if there are any on here, and see what successes they’ve had. I’d also like to hear more on this subject too. My theory is that what works for women to get men -will also work for women to get women. There has been a great study done here: [http://www.psych.ubc.ca/~azim/facialpreference.pdf](http://www.psych.ubc.ca/~azim/facialpreference.pdf) Which basically says that women prefer more masculine characteristics when they are near ovulation. The evol-psych theory suggests that women are “looking” (subliminally) for partners (to help with things like child-rearing) when they are not near ovulation and are looking for reproduction when they are near ovulation. My basic question is : **does this apply to pheromones too**? I mean do women prefer more feminine pheromones (copulins or EST ) when they aren’t ovulating? Do they prefer masculine pheromones when they are? I suppose this is opening a debate which I’m sure doesn’t answer your question. **I would like to know more about other’s experiences**. ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2007, 9:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/attracting-gay-and-bi-women-should-a-lesbian-try-est-or-female-pheromones/5004/6 "2007-08-07T21:36:08Z")
> [@Sunfire](#): > > Does anyone have any experiences of using pheromones to attract women? From the Androtics line, TUTH, and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) would work well. When women apply TUTH it makes them super squirrelly, and the androstenone will inhibit a level of sexual attraction and tension in other women. The instant female magic will add a level of ease and relaxing comfort making befriending them alot easier. TUTH is probably best for bi-chicks as Lesbians maybe respond differently. These are just my suggestions as a dude in appreciation of the female form. There probably quite a few gals on the forum that could help ya out alot better. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2007, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/attracting-gay-and-bi-women-should-a-lesbian-try-est-or-female-pheromones/5004/7 "2007-08-07T23:19:15Z")
Hi Sunfire. There is not alot of sure fire advice on this subject but I will give you my take on it. pheromones have a subtle effect when used by both men and women. When I wear pheromones I attract people. Men and women. Its what I do with that attraction once it occurs that makes the difference so my advice would be to use pheromones that attract people. Because I dont think there is one product that will attract just lesbians. However there are mixes that are more likely. Nols are one good choice. Instant Honesty, Instant Openness, CTTM, all have nols in them. Products that give off a female alpha vibe and attract like Instant sexiness A. IS/A is TAL heavy and straight TAL would also be a good choice. A314 may be a good choice in small amounts. Its a mens product and gives off a masculine vibe but women do use it with great success to gain a Alpha edge. Instant shine is a very upbeat people attracting mix. [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) may be beneficial to calm some womens nerves if they are not confident being a lesbian but I dont think it would attract them to you just calm them once your together. Turn Up The Heat makes most women horny. Frankly I love it LOL a dab of that once you are involved with someone could heat things up. Before your involved there is a chance it will come on to strong. Now a good mix would be something like. This is just an example 2 sprays of shine 1 dab of A314 2 sprays of IS/A 2 sprays of Instant Honesty. This will give you a approuchable alpha open vibe. Shine will make them feel upbeat. IS/A will attract and have you giving off a confident alpha vibe. A314 will give off a masculine alpha type vibe which may help keep the hetero’s at bay because they will pick up the vibe as well as the fact that its coming from a women. Here is the important part, The IH will make them open up to you and make it easier to find out if they are interested. Now whatever products you choose to get always try them out on there own first and see what kind of reaction you get from each and how much you need to use to get that reaction. Remember even if its not the desired effect and suppose you attract men it can be tempered with something later and at least you know its working and attracting in general. I would also like to mention cops. They raise a mans testosterone level. Women who are lesbians may have more testosterone then hetero women. I dont know this for a fact but it makes sense. So if it raises it for men it may for women as well. When I wear cops I attract men and women but they are hetero’s but I work with 2 girls who are lesbians and when I have on cops they hang around me and talk with me alot more for some reason. They both know I am not a lesbian but who knows what would happen if they didnt. Instant sexiness has cops in it. A product here called dirty has none in it which is a male pheromone and cops and may be worth trying out later. I have read reports that Scent of Eros which is sold at Love scent has attracted lesbians in some cases. This is a mix of nols and cops there may be more in it but I cant think of it off the top of my head. Well I hope this helps some. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![talkischeap](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/talkischeap/32/2274_2.png) [@talkischeap](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/talkischeap)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2007, 3:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/attracting-gay-and-bi-women-should-a-lesbian-try-est-or-female-pheromones/5004/8 "2007-08-08T03:43:13Z")
Hey Sunfire, I’m pretty much in your same situation- when I first got here, I wasn’t sure if I should be looking at men’s or women’s pheros. My line of thinking is that women who want to attract other women can use both -none (Ammo, TUTH) and cops (Instant Sexiness, EOW) usually seperate but possibly together (have yet to try it) to cast a wider net (or possibly confuse and arouse people simultaneously). If you know your target is bi or “just curious”, try some -none (especially if you’re butch or a tomboy). If your target is a diehard lesbian, try cops. I’m in land of the heteros right now, so I can’t say anything for the usefulness of cops on lesbians, but I’ve had good reactions with the straight women in my office wearing [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). I’m not persuing any of them, but it’s made for a more pleasent environment. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2007, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/attracting-gay-and-bi-women-should-a-lesbian-try-est-or-female-pheromones/5004/9 "2007-08-08T16:28:11Z")
we have in fact talked about it in the past. do some back-tracking and youll find some gems. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2007, 4:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/attracting-gay-and-bi-women-should-a-lesbian-try-est-or-female-pheromones/5004/10 "2007-08-08T16:43:16Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > we have in fact talked about it in the past. > do some back-tracking and youll find some gems. > 🙂 Yes, if you look at my last post (above) you’ll see I highlighted a thread dealing with this very issue.😃