# authentic value/peacocking/DHV **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [October 30, 2008, 2:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/authentic-value-peacocking-dhv/22251 "2008-10-30T02:24:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 2:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/authentic-value-peacocking-dhv/22251/1 "2008-10-30T02:24:59Z")
Link to forum removed Ridley and Miller propose a striking suggestion- That human consciousness, art, science, and basically all creativity are the result of sexual rather than environmental pressure. Stated another way, Survival of the fittest is bullshit - what counts is sexiness. The human mind is thus the product of sexual rather than natural selection, due to an accidental preference of ancient females for clever males. If this is true, the implications are staggering. Rolexes denote “fitness” with regard to environmental pressure. The wearer has achieved a certain rank or status, in his environment (modern culture) and the timepiece reflect this. Problem is, it can be easily faked. Guess what CANT be faked? Intelligence. Creativity. Humor. Kindness. Acceptance. Compassion. Empathy. Detachment… lol… So you see, females sexually select based on traits that are RELIABLE indicators of sexiness, because these traits are COSTLY and WASTEFULL. ---
**Author:** ![wilks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f475e1/32.png) [@wilks](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wilks)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 4:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/authentic-value-peacocking-dhv/22251/2 "2008-10-30T04:07:37Z")
I liked this post… it reminded me of my facebook profile: You can pretend to be serious; you can’t pretend to be witty. - Sacha Guitry I’ll take my wit/creativity any day over a rolex, fancy euro clothes or even [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). \ God help me the day they make a pheromone that gives off a wit vibe. ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 4:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/authentic-value-peacocking-dhv/22251/3 "2008-10-30T04:16:00Z")
> [@PheroQuirk](#): > > Guess what CANT be faked? > > **Intelligence. Creativity. Humor. Kindness. Acceptance. Compassion. Empathy. Detachment…** > > lol… > > So you see, females sexually select based on traits that are RELIABLE indicators of sexiness, because these traits are COSTLY and WASTEFULL. Those can actually easily be faked, i see it all the time. guys will just repeat something funny/witty/smart/etc. they heard from someone else or read from somewhere (this annoys me quite a bit). or they know what to say to a lady to get her in bed quick. . then he’ll dump her when he’s busted his nut. in reality, the only thing that has evolved is our environment. ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 10:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/authentic-value-peacocking-dhv/22251/4 "2008-10-30T10:33:45Z")
A good book about the effects of sexual selection on human development is “The Mating Mind”. In my experience, everything can be faked only to a point. You can learn a few funny/smart/empathic/sexy lines and take those to the club and have success with it, but unless you have real qualities to back it up, people will tire of you quickly. It takes real skill to make real friends. If superficial charm was all we needed in life on an evolutionary level, we would not have developed the deeper qualities. Besides that, it takes some real qualities to be able to develop charm in the first place. If you lack self control, you won’t stop talking long enough to make another person feel heard. If you are lazy, you won’t smell good or look good.