# Back after years: get A314 first, and a debate over whether it is what it was **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 3, 2013, 10:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/back-after-years-get-a314-first-and-a-debate-over-whether-it-is-what-it-was/60147 "2013-10-03T10:50:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bonecrkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bonecrkr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bonecrkr)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 10:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/back-after-years-get-a314-first-and-a-debate-over-whether-it-is-what-it-was/60147/1 "2013-10-03T10:50:09Z")
Been gone a long time. Why? Eventually, you run out of things to say about [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/), stop repeating yourself and just use them. And I have, for years…most Androtics Direct. The obligatory basics. Yes…pheromones work. Lot’s of people say this. You will never believe them until you try them. Which pheromone should you use. Well, if you are a man, before anything else, get A314. I know, it’s expensive and a newbie couldn’t get it for free with the free pheromones offer (does it still exist…). I notice they will take it back if you don’t like it. So go and buy a bottle. Everyone whose tried it knows, after YOU try it, nobody is going to be able to pry that bottle out of your hands. It is that good. Now, you KNOW pheromones work. Well, pheromones from Androtics Direct work. Most other pheromone companies are frauds so caveat emptor. That being said. What is new? I notice alot of experimental stuff going on for years and years but no new permanent products. Which immediately begs the question…any of that experimental stuff pan out? By that I mean. Any new pheromones or pheromone blends discovered that have new, unique or even just better effects than the standard AD products? I’ve been away for awhile. ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 9:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/back-after-years-get-a314-first-and-a-debate-over-whether-it-is-what-it-was/60147/2 "2013-10-04T09:00:34Z")
> [@Bonecrkr](#): > > Been gone a long time. Why? Eventually, you run out of things to say about pheromones, stop repeating yourself and just use them. And I have, for years…most Androtics Direct. > > The obligatory basics. Yes…pheromones work. Lot’s of people say this. You will never believe them until you try them. > > Which pheromone should you use. Well, if you are a man, before anything else, get A314. I know, it’s expensive and a newbie couldn’t get it for free with the free pheromones offer (does it still exist…). I notice they will take it back if you don’t like it. So go and buy a bottle. Everyone whose tried it knows, after YOU try it, nobody is going to be able to pry that bottle out of your hands. It is that good. Now, you KNOW pheromones work. Well, pheromones from Androtics Direct work. Most other pheromone companies are frauds so caveat emptor. > > That being said. What is new? I notice alot of experimental stuff going on for years and years but no new permanent products. Which immediately begs the question…any of that experimental stuff pan out? > > By that I mean. Any new pheromones or pheromone blends discovered that have new, unique or even just better effects than the standard AD products? I’ve been away for awhile. sorry to burst your bubble but A314 ain’t what it used to be, order a bottle and you will see what I mean, Also there are a lot of other vendors out there that sell good quality products now, the monopoly that AD once had is no more due to imo lack of innovation. I still purchase a couple of putatives mainly p74 p83 and tac but apart from that my hard earned cash goes elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Bonecrkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bonecrkr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bonecrkr)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 10:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/back-after-years-get-a314-first-and-a-debate-over-whether-it-is-what-it-was/60147/3 "2013-10-04T10:48:01Z")
Like what. I probably have 40 or so assorted bottles of various things I’ve collected over the years. For a long time I would test these things out. Most were…disappointing. A few worked for various things and have stood the test of time. For example, The Edge does its job. The only company though where, year after year, bottle after bottle, the various mixes did what they say they do, has been AD. And the most powerful and reliable of these has always been A314. For the new batches to not be as good as I’m used to would be…disappointing. Especially since I’ve finally run low on the old batches I’ve been using and recently re-ordered and decided, hey, it’s been a very long time since I’ve posted anything. I’ll have to give the new bottle a try. They certainly got it into my hands quickly enough. Service is fast and no nonsense, as I remember it. > [@THE\_GHOST](#): > > sorry to burst your bubble but A314 ain’t what it used to be, order a bottle and you will see what I mean, Also there are a lot of other vendors out there that sell good quality products now, the monopoly that AD once had is no more due to imo lack of innovation. I still purchase a couple of putatives mainly p74 p83 and tac but apart from that my hard earned cash goes elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 12:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/back-after-years-get-a314-first-and-a-debate-over-whether-it-is-what-it-was/60147/4 "2013-10-04T12:29:27Z")
> [@Bonecrkr](#): > > Like what. > > I probably have 40 or so assorted bottles of various things I’ve collected over the years. For a long time I would test these things out. Most were…disappointing. A few worked for various things and have stood the test of time. For example, The Edge does its job. The only company though where, year after year, bottle after bottle, the various mixes did what they say they do, has been AD. And the most powerful and reliable of these has always been A314. For the new batches to not be as good as I’m used to would be…disappointing. > > Especially since I’ve finally run low on the old batches I’ve been using and recently re-ordered and decided, hey, it’s been a very long time since I’ve posted anything. I’ll have to give the new bottle a try. > > They certainly got it into my hands quickly enough. Service is fast and no nonsense, as I remember it. I’m not bashing AD at all, reading my post again it does kinda sound like that so I’m sorry if I gave that impression, Im just giving my honest opinion, A314 is not the legend it used to be I’m not sure if you have used any of the latest revs but both rev 29 and rev 31 for me and many others was very disappointing they even set up an exchange scheme specifically for the return of rev 31 I haven’t used rev 32 but I haven’t heard many good reviews so far. I agree with you though many of the consumer line products are very consistent and I have never had a problem with the customer service, there are new and old companies out there that are making lots of quality products that are cheaper, stronger and have a full range of effects, no more spraying on 3 different products at a time. ---
**Author:** ![hankypanky2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hankypanky2/32/597_2.png) [@hankypanky2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hankypanky2)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 12:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/back-after-years-get-a314-first-and-a-debate-over-whether-it-is-what-it-was/60147/5 "2013-10-04T12:50:23Z")
you’ve seen my aqua vitae and ammo thread, the user ss108 has used products from different vendors, so did the user leon38 or something. Go read it again