# Back in Nom: Greetings all!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/back-in-nom-greetings-all/50466>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [May 26, 2011, 1:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/back-in-nom-greetings-all/50466 "2011-05-26T01:28:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tim23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f19dbf/32.png) [@Tim23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tim23)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 1:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/back-in-nom-greetings-all/50466/1 "2011-05-26T01:28:35Z")

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Hello and good evening to you all.

Let’s start off with the basics, My name is Tim, im 20, I have a tall slender build and O bloodtype with (in my humble opinion 😃 ) good looks. I live in a little ole town in Michigan where it is normally cold 8 out of the 12 months, burrr!

I’v had few girlfriends back in Nom, errr, high school, and the ones I did have were short lived because I would be so nervous around the girl I liked I wouldn’t make a move, and eventually she would lose intrest and would end it in a text saying “sorry, I’m just not ready for a relationship now”. Then less then two days later I saw her macking on another guy in the halls after school. Needless to say, that hurt. So I took up weight lifting and exercising each day which helped me to improve my physical looks, but not my “inner looks”.

So off to the world wide web I went scouring the information to improve my game. There were so many advertisements about some “magic secrete” to get any girl, any where. Now Momma didn’t raise no fool so I knew that hard work and dedication would be the key to what I was lacking.

Fast forward to college now, at a party to be specific, and it was you average college party, loud music, girls, and beer, lots of beer. So there I was I had come out of my “shell” for the most part (what guy isn’t a little nervous to talk to girls who don’t even know your name?) that I carried throught high that was more like a “social anchor”. By now i couldapproach a new girl and start some small talk. So anyways I was talking to a lovely girl about my age by the name of Marissa. We were hitting it off pretty good, but nothing “special” At which point I went to refill our drinks when I saw my best bud, (since middle school) macking on some very attractive girl. Basically, it looked like they were eating each other’s face xD. I didn’t want to “disturb” him so later after the party, (were room mates) I talked to him about his little “friend”. Now my buddy Chris wasn’t a real ladies man in high school, he had good looks but was more interested in extracurricular activities and didn’t have too much time for a girlfriend. A sly grin grew on his face as be explained a wonderful thing called pheremone cologne. I was very skeptical at first, but after a few more parties, I was pretty sure whatever these things were, they were definately giving Chris an edge up on me in the competition.

So here I am, I have some knowledge of pheromones, (thanks google!) But I’m still a green horn. Make a long story short I would like to have an “edge up” on the competition too so that I don’t get roped into the “friend zone” after talking to a girl for five minutes, and to gain as much knowledge so I can utilize it so and can finally cut that last social anchor dragging me down.

Thanks for taking the time to read this 🙂

Peace–Tim

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**Author:** ![rolandcubed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@rolandcubed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolandcubed)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 3:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/back-in-nom-greetings-all/50466/2 "2011-05-26T03:21:09Z")

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Hey and welcome Tim23!

Cold weather is… awesome… and it sucks.

Anyway, after reading your nice intro 🙂 I would recommend you get a product like Ammo. IS also works as well. If you want to give off a more mature vibe get IG. Ammo btw is more like a [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) which gives you a vibe that you’re a healthy male. It’s powerful stuff.

But mostly, success with women/girls come from within. You must be confident in yourself and that’s really what’s the most attractive.

If you have any more questions feel free to ask!

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**Author:** ![menger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@menger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/menger)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 3:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/back-in-nom-greetings-all/50466/3 "2011-05-26T03:48:47Z")

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Hi Tim, thanks for sharing and welcome to the forum!

The friend zone is a tricky one. Roland suggested ammo which is a pretty good attraction product. If she is attracted to you, its less probable to fall into the unwanted area. Status products, like IG and A314, are always attractive just not in a sexual way like ammo.

Personally though, I have been using more socials ( IH / IO ) to talk to the ladies. I feel that as long as the conversations are flowing, I can steer it anyway, especially not to be friends!

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Gslinger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnny_gslinger/32/748_2.png) [@Johnny\_Gslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Johnny_Gslinger)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 9:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/back-in-nom-greetings-all/50466/4 "2011-05-26T09:18:20Z")

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Girls in college come in all sorts of attractive shapes and sizes. It really depends on what kind of girl you’re looking for.

For overall attraction, I’d have to recommend Ammunition. You’re pretty young and at a virile age so you might not really have a need in the none production side of things, you might also consider getting IS (Instant Shine) to improve your overall “outlook” and “feel” you give to the girls.

I’d agree with menge on recommending IO and IH. Younger girls especially those in college tend to respond well to the socials. I’d very much recommend IH, it’ll help you create a “deep bond” with the girls (and the other “_deep bond_” you might get)

Note that the socials aren’t sexual in any way but are meant for and good at helping build rapport and connection with your intended targets, which more often than not is more than enough to get you action in the dorms if you know how to wing it from there. Now if you really want things to be a little more heated up , consider TUTH but take note and care of not OD-ing on it.

When trying to make up your mind on what to buy, do a search on this forum. Things you might want to look out for

OD/Overdosing  
Ammunition  
IO/IH  
College Girls

Consider getting [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) above all else.

> [@Tim23](#):
>
> Hello and good evening to you all.
> 
> Let’s start off with the basics, My name is Tim, im 20, I have a tall slender build and O bloodtype with (in my humble opinion 😃 ) good looks. I live in a little ole town in Michigan where it is normally cold 8 out of the 12 months, burrr!
> 
> I’v had few girlfriends back in Nom, errr, high school, and the ones I did have were short lived because I would be so nervous around the girl I liked I wouldn’t make a move, and eventually she would lose intrest and would end it in a text saying “sorry, I’m just not ready for a relationship now”. Then less then two days later I saw her macking on another guy in the halls after school. Needless to say, that hurt. So I took up weight lifting and exercising each day which helped me to improve my physical looks, but not my “inner looks”.
> 
> So off to the world wide web I went scouring the information to improve my game. There were so many advertisements about some “magic secrete” to get any girl, any where. Now Momma didn’t raise no fool so I knew that hard work and dedication would be the key to what I was lacking.
> 
> Fast forward to college now, at a party to be specific, and it was you average college party, loud music, girls, and beer, lots of beer. So there I was I had come out of my “shell” for the most part (what guy isn’t a little nervous to talk to girls who don’t even know your name?) that I carried throught high that was more like a “social anchor”. By now i couldapproach a new girl and start some small talk. So anyways I was talking to a lovely girl about my age by the name of Marissa. We were hitting it off pretty good, but nothing “special” At which point I went to refill our drinks when I saw my best bud, (since middle school) macking on some very attractive girl. Basically, it looked like they were eating each other’s face xD. I didn’t want to “disturb” him so later after the party, (were room mates) I talked to him about his little “friend”. Now my buddy Chris wasn’t a real ladies man in high school, he had good looks but was more interested in extracurricular activities and didn’t have too much time for a girlfriend. A sly grin grew on his face as be explained a wonderful thing called pheremone cologne. I was very skeptical at first, but after a few more parties, I was pretty sure whatever these things were, they were definately giving Chris an edge up on me in the competition.
> 
> So here I am, I have some knowledge of pheromones, (thanks google!) But I’m still a green horn. Make a long story short I would like to have an “edge up” on the competition too so that I don’t get roped into the “friend zone” after talking to a girl for five minutes, and to gain as much knowledge so I can utilize it so and can finally cut that last social anchor dragging me down.
> 
> Thanks for taking the time to read this 🙂
> 
> Peace–Tim

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**Author:** ![Tim23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f19dbf/32.png) [@Tim23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tim23)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 9:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/back-in-nom-greetings-all/50466/5 "2011-05-26T21:27:16Z")

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Thanks for all the hepfull information everybody! 🙂 I will be sure to get some Instant shine, and maybe some [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) too. You guys can bet that the better half of my time will be spent looking through all the threads here, it’s like a vast wealth of information, that I know will be a very valuable tool in my adventures!

Thanks all!  
-Tim

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**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 10:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/back-in-nom-greetings-all/50466/6 "2011-05-27T22:33:47Z")

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> [@menger](#):
>
> Hi Tim, thanks for sharing and welcome to the forum!
> 
> The friend zone is a tricky one. Roland suggested ammo which is a pretty good attraction product. If she is attracted to you, its less probable to fall into the unwanted area. Status products, like IG and A314, are always attractive just not in a sexual way like ammo.
> 
> Personally though, **I have been using more socials ( IH / IO ) to talk to the ladies. I feel that as long as the conversations are flowing, I can steer it anyway, especially not to be friends!**

Hi and welcome to Pherotalk Tim. Menger has some good points with the socials. I personally, _ **LOVE** _ IO. It’s a great ice-breaker and makes for easy interaction, with IH that opening can develop into a significant communication - always good 😃. For me, personally, IO is also a stress reliever and I always get a lift from using it. The common view here is IO makes for quantity conversations and IH for quality conversations.  
So open with IO and get in deeper with IH! Good luck, and as you can see, the guys are here to help. So are the fems for that matter. 😉 Read some journals, get some ideas and go experiment 🆒. But above all else, have fun!

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/back-in-nom-greetings-all/50466/7 "2011-05-29T16:35:32Z")

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Welcome to pherotalk Tim!

We are no strangers to situations like yours as we hear them everyday. Differences depend on the person but when you start reading some more you will find familiar stories.

That means that we have come up with , tested and have great knowledge on how to get you from where you are to where you want to be.

The [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) are a start, the research and skills you will learn from the experienced members is priceless.

Good luck.

**Your gc was issued! 😉**
