# Basic Noob Phero Bootcamp

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 22, 2007, 7:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159 "2007-02-22T07:23:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2007, 12:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159/21 "2007-03-09T00:30:58Z")

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> [@chirimoya](#):
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> are you going to write about any other products? this is informative and helpful

Sure thing. It will be a long time from now though. I need to do some very extensive testing on so much. I also need to do much more research.

I’m hoping to put to gether a putative report, but that’s such a subjective area with little info it will take a long time before I can report.

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2007, 2:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159/22 "2007-03-09T14:42:37Z")

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We could add our own information if we like too.

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**Author:** ![Godhand](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/godhand/32/2378_2.png) [@Godhand](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Godhand)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2007, 2:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159/23 "2007-03-10T02:57:17Z")

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You are the man. Rep point for you.

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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2007, 4:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159/24 "2007-03-16T04:10:00Z")

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Well it seems somebody dissaproves about this post

> [@](#):
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> I love how U’ve been using 'pheromones all of 5 minutes and think U know it all. U’ll learn. Right now U know JACK

I was docked 2 points for this thread.

I’m sorry you think that the time frame my knowledge has expanded in is to short, but I did not post any information that was incorrect. I don’t contend to be a pheromone expert. I wrote this post to help new users and increase knowledge of pheromones. I know I’ve been around a short time and made a point to cite my sources.

I see you have a 2 points for reputation so you must have made 300 posts, or been around for 1 year.

I’m suprised that after that amount of experience you would find this post as invaluable and need to express yourself in such a manor. It would seem that is negative rep is the result of some sort of agrivation towards me and I apologize if I have offended you indirectly, however I do not apologize if I expressed my genuine opinion on situations and you dissagree. I will not apologize for being myself. That would be hypocritical and unethical.

There are many people who support this post and have found it to be very helpful in their begining to advanced inquiries.

I make sure I do thorough research when I write such long winded articals portraying pheromone fact. I don’t want to misslead people by any means. I also know more than “Jack.” In high school I was a member of the National Honors Society, a College Prep Honors student, and graduated in the top 15 percentile. I also am creative enough to have placed 1st in potery, and tied for 3rd in photography with my good friend Ryan. After high school I was a Mechanical Engineering student at Purdue University, and was accepted into Rose Hulmand Engineering which is the #1 engineering program in the US. I turned them down because Purdue has a better job placement. I quickly learned that I did not want to sit in front of a computer all day, and am now working to become a facilities manager for a major resort located in a tropical region. This degree is hospitatlity and tourism management. So not only am I inteligent, but I am also artistic, mechanical, and business minded with high success rates. Oh did I mention my IQ is much higher than standard? Just though i’d throw that in. Average IQ is 100, mine is 133. Here is a graph for you from wikipedia.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/2/252ea85d7344350976998ec853ab892c3ee7c2f2.png)  
Excuse me, I’m being arrogent; but that is how I feel and I will not appologize for who I am.

I’d say that qualifies me to be able to research and understand such simple concepts as pheromones. It’s basic bioligy and chemestry. Any modern highschool student with at least a C average could understand such concepts as diffusion, and biological chemical reactions. This is simple compared to physics and a no brainer for me.

I didn’t ask for this thread to become a sticky. I didn’t ask to recieve a gift certificate by the highest ranking individual on this forum excluding Mharris. (aka Jasmin, oh and thanks again for that.) You seem to be mistaken in your agression, and view of my level of knowledge.

Well you un-named negative reputation giver, I hope you now feel that your point has been made and have settled what ever frustrations you may have against me.

I wish you a good day, and hope you feel better than you did.

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2007, 1:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159/25 "2007-03-17T01:30:19Z")

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toilofday - Don’t let em get to you. They aren’t worth your time.

I am assuming your distribution curve chart has an SD=15. Some IQ tests have a different SD (eg the ones used by the US military are/were skewed).

Grossly rounding the numbers that puts you a bit above the 85th-percentile. Then again I am terrible with math… (Don’t have my statistics formulas handy either.)

As we have already been discussing the Meyers-Briggs, shall we all tackle the CTMM or the like next? (California Test of Mental Maturity) And the MMPI here would be a hoot… (Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory).

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2007, 8:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159/26 "2007-03-17T08:38:01Z")

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I agree don’t worry with those who complain.

They should have been the ones writing a compilation / summary like you did. But they didn’t. You did. so congratulations and just ignore those losers.  
Like I said earlier we can all add information to the thread if we feel the need to.

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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2007, 9:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159/27 "2007-03-17T09:06:11Z")

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I know it’s not worth my time, but I find rather comical and I can’t help but reply. I think it’s fun. At the least I was humored by the event. I find myself being rather bored most of the time, so it was a pleasant addition to my day. I know the post may have seemed rather defensive, but read it in a lighthearted humorous way and you will understand what I was getting at. 😛

As far as the SD=15 matter, I have no clue, but the 85th percentile is definitely correct.

What is scary is that one of my best friends has roughly a 142, and his step dad has a high IQ of 152. The arrogant bastard never lived up to his potential brilliance. This all came from northern Indiana, and the same high school.

“All God given gifts are taken for granted.” My grandma/somebody unknown. 🆒

Thanks for the support though. It means a lot, and I’m happy to know you both even though it’s through the internet.

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**Author:** ![7aji88](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/7aji88/32/1287_2.png) [@7aji88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/7aji88)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159/28 "2007-03-21T18:45:42Z")

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great post with a lot of information in it. Keep the good work!!🆒

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**Author:** ![Holmes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/holmes/32/2128_2.png) [@Holmes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Holmes)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2007, 2:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159/29 "2007-03-25T14:34:53Z")

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> [@Jasmin](#):
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> Crap almighty!

😃 😃

Thanks for the laugh, Jasmin.

Great post, toilofday. Cheers for the insight.

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**Author:** ![nblfyb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@nblfyb](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nblfyb)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 4:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159/30 "2007-03-27T16:59:34Z")

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yea toil, i can choose one from your lists to try out. i like the info

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 1:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159/31 "2007-03-30T13:32:16Z")

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Our usual anonymous coward gave me a neg rep too… it was my first neg rep!

Too bad this person has no courage to speak out like a man. If he thinks there is something incorrect or inaccurate in this thread, he should simply post and anything found to be inaccurate would be corrected.

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**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 4:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159/32 "2007-03-31T16:29:27Z")

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I would venture to say the negrepper’s goal is drama, and perhaps to incite unhappiness on the forum, just to cause pain.

I’m not betting the negrepper cares much (if at all) about accuracy or the quality of phero discussion.

> [@Phoenix](#):
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> Our usual anonymous coward gave me a neg rep too… it was my first neg rep!
> 
> Too bad this person has no courage to speak out like a man. If he thinks there is something incorrect or inaccurate in this thread, he should simply post and anything found to be inaccurate would be corrected.

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**Author:** ![justanotherhornyteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecd19e/32.png) [@justanotherhornyteen](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justanotherhornyteen)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2007, 4:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159/33 "2007-04-07T16:02:07Z")

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just what i was looking for.

OK this is going to sound ignorant, but where do u spray/rub oil?

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2007, 4:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159/34 "2007-04-07T16:11:27Z")

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> [@justanotherhornyteen](#):
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> just what i was looking for.
> 
> OK this is going to sound ignorant, but where do u spray/rub oil?

I put the a314 oil on my neck (front) usually.  
Other sprays, well it depends. Mainly the same place, or behind my neck in the case of instant female magic. At times on the sides of my neck too or in my hair… or on my wrists.

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**Author:** ![MaartenL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MaartenL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MaartenL)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2007, 12:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159/35 "2007-04-21T00:11:34Z")

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Want your thoughts about this, Toil!

Hello Toil,

I use Human Euphoria Cologne, I notice a lot of results from this product.. Girls Are going crazy about me!! 😃 😃

I am amazed that the product I use is not talked about on pherotalk!!😮

I think everybody should read and hear about Human Euphoria Cologne! Because it did wonders for me!!

Please let me know if you heard other people talk about it, the link I bought it was [Be More Attractive Today - Human Euphoria Cologne Pheromone](http://www.bemoreattractivetoday.com) .

Thanks in advance Toil,

ps. Did a DAMN good job in explaining pheromones!!😃

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**Author:** ![MaartenL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MaartenL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MaartenL)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2007, 12:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159/36 "2007-04-21T00:15:52Z")

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> [@MaartenL](#):
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> Hello Toil,
> 
> I use Human Euphoria Cologne, I notice a lot of results from this product.. Girls Are going crazy about me!! 😃 😃
> 
> I am amazed that the product I use is not talked about on pherotalk!!😮
> 
> I think everybody should read and hear about Human Euphoria Cologne! Because it did wonders for me!!
> 
> Please let me know if you heard other people talk about it, the link I bought it was [Be More Attractive Today - Human Euphoria Cologne Pheromone](http://www.bemoreattractivetoday.com) .
> 
> Thanks in advance Toil,
> 
> ps. Did a DAMN good job in explaining pheromones!!😃

Me Again!! forgot to ask something in my previous post lol!

I read about everyone applying several pheromones, is this not pushing the effect to much? I mean when a man applies to much perfume, then it is overwhelming (in a bad way). Is this the same with pheromones? With the product I use I get the feeling that a couple of daps does the trick more then well..!🆒

Maarten

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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2007, 1:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159/37 "2007-04-21T01:30:04Z")

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Well, i’d have to speculate that this Euphoria cologne is an alpha-nol based product. They don’t seem to speculate to much on sex in their advertising, so I’d guess it’s a pretty friendly mix.

As for you second question…I am guilty of this all to much. Even if you are wearing something light and happy, you can over do it. Sometimes it fun and sometimes it counter productive. Taking spaceland as an example. Have you ever tired to focus and been completely spaced out? How about trying to make a move and losing your train of thought, or her losing her trian of though.

If you shock your targets to much they may not be able to respond in the best of mannors because their brains will be subconsiously saying, “WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE!” hahaah lol

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**Author:** ![MaartenL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MaartenL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MaartenL)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2007, 9:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159/38 "2007-04-21T09:35:42Z")

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Thanks for your fast reply Toil,

Don’t you think it’s damageble for your brains or something if you loose the strain of thoughts?

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2007, 2:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159/39 "2007-04-21T14:40:21Z")

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> [@MaartenL](#):
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> Thanks for your fast reply Toil,
> 
> Don’t you think it’s damageble for your brains or something if you loose the strain of thoughts?

Just as much as if someone hypnotises you to get confused 😃

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**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2007, 3:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159/40 "2007-04-21T15:35:42Z")

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