# Be careful with turn up the heat **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 20, 2007, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/be-careful-with-turn-up-the-heat/3770 "2007-05-20T19:46:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/be-careful-with-turn-up-the-heat/3770/21 "2007-08-29T23:24:59Z")
sloman et al have written of depression as an involuntary defeat strategy. if your limbic brain is admitting defeat/submitting, but your rational brain forces you onward the conflict may be resolved by depression = a withdrawal from competition. tacitus has written of a1-induced depression as perhaps being due to a subliminal sense that there is a super-powerful man around and perhaps now is not the time to go pick a fight. it seems entirely plausible, to me at least, that none might induce a similar reaction in some instances. also, more directly, if none makes you behave like an asshole then it’s perhaps not surprising that you should get a feeling associated with ‘this isn’t working’… ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 8:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/be-careful-with-turn-up-the-heat/3770/22 "2007-09-01T08:58:04Z")
I think I’ve gotten used to IFM now.. because I didn’t have that depressing feeling when I wear it two days in a row.. that’s better then! ---
**Author:** ![Ryan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryan/32/1528_2.png) [@Ryan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ryan)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/be-careful-with-turn-up-the-heat/3770/23 "2007-09-01T23:12:33Z")
I’ve been wearing TUTH to the gym lately, but this time not to test other people’s response, just my own. To get the best workout you need to be in the right frame of mind, so the purpose of the test was to find out whether it had positive or negative effects on my workout. So far I have definetly noticed a difference, just can’t quite explain it yet. It’s definelty a positive one, although I can’t yet say it had an effect on the actual physical side of the workout. And no negative effects or depression before or after the workouts so far. I’m going to keep testing this week on\week off untill I get specific results for myself. Already noticed the dramtic effects it’s had on the people around me, men & women… ---
**Author:** ![magicj76](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/magicj76/32/1858_2.png) [@magicj76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magicj76)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2007, 3:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/be-careful-with-turn-up-the-heat/3770/24 "2007-09-02T03:08:27Z")
It’s crazy how different results we can all get ! I’ve got TUTH to-go version. The first time, I just had 1 shot on my chest. My girlfriend became quite more sexy with me, leaving her head always near to my chest ! (by the way, never leave to-goes in your trousers pockets, they might fly around when your girlfriend makes your trousers turn and turn and turn… 😃 ) Two days ago, I had one shot on my chest and one shot split on each side of my neck. (still to-go version) She kept her nose in these regions ! So for sure, TUTH will be in my next order ! (and no the to-go version!) ---
**Author:** ![Tama1981K](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tama1981k/32/1685_2.png) [@Tama1981K](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tama1981K)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2007, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/be-careful-with-turn-up-the-heat/3770/25 "2007-11-19T06:07:26Z")
This idea came across my mind earlier today…Could it be the fact that you are smelling the pheromones on yourself? And could it be conflicting in your brain and actually cause you to get depressed because your own brain can not make sense of your newfound signature? Maybe the chemical messages being tossed around in your mind think that a much higher alpha is present…causing you to become depressed because you physically and mentally can not compete with the much higher signature? 😕 In my opinion there is a distinct possibility that it lessens over time because your brain gets used to the much higher signature being present… Just a thought…🙄 ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2007, 7:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/be-careful-with-turn-up-the-heat/3770/26 "2007-11-19T07:25:24Z")
Tater doesnt think your body knows the difference between your own signature and a foreign signature. As ive discussed before, it just thinks theres some alpha guy hanging around you real close. This may cause your body to alpha-up over time. ---
**Author:** ![spot007](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@spot007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spot007)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2007, 7:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/be-careful-with-turn-up-the-heat/3770/27 "2007-11-19T07:39:01Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Tater doesnt think your body knows the difference between your own signature and a foreign signature. As ive discussed before, it just thinks theres some alpha guy hanging around you real close. This may cause your body to alpha-up over time. Spot thinks that Tater is right… Spot just realized the other night that the right amount of -none (i.e.: not an OD) makes him one hell of a horny bugger, and he notices every curve on every woman that passes by him, when he might not have noticed them all before. Not to mention that he’ll step-up and flirt with these unknown women, when he might not have done it without the phero app. Placebo effect or phero self-effect? - Whatever it is, it’s pushing him up to the plate. Why is Spot starting to talk in the 3rd person like Tater? ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2007, 7:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/be-careful-with-turn-up-the-heat/3770/28 "2007-11-19T07:54:45Z")
The whole third person thing kinda grows on you. No point in getting worried unless Spot starts talking to his shadow or seeing dead people. ---
**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2007, 12:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/be-careful-with-turn-up-the-heat/3770/29 "2007-11-19T12:02:17Z")
Hello to everybody! I’ve just a question about this topic. The Turn Up The Heat has more or less NONE inside? And A314? I was wondering if the NONE side effect (in my case rage), could be focused in another way using something very social… For example with heavy dose of oil TAA? What do you think guys? See ya Franz ---
**Author:** ![Tama1981K](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tama1981k/32/1685_2.png) [@Tama1981K](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tama1981K)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2007, 3:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/be-careful-with-turn-up-the-heat/3770/30 "2007-11-22T15:08:56Z")
> [@runnerxvr](#): > > Hello to everybody! > I’ve just a question about this topic. The Turn Up The Heat has more or less NONE inside? And A314? I was wondering if the NONE side effect (in my case rage), could be focused in another way using something very social… For example with heavy dose of oil TAA? What do you think guys? > > See ya > > Franz Turn up the Heat in comparison to many other products offered by Androtics has a higher level of aggressive pheromones that give off a very sexual vibe causing other to get jealous…especially guys. I would not recommend TUTH to someone with rage issues as it can cause other guys to be more aggressive in demeanor towards you. A314 Has never caused me to get more angry with someone or someone to be more agressive with me. It in fact has made me more focused and relaxed and has caused others to treat me with respect. A314 only contains a small amount of androstenone and a blend of 8 other pheromones. With the combination of the 8 other pheromones it tends to cause a positive spin on the androstenone in the mix. A314 is usually at the center of most of my mixes. ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2007, 11:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/be-careful-with-turn-up-the-heat/3770/31 "2007-11-22T23:07:28Z")
> [@Ryan](#): > > I’ve been wearing Turn Up The Heat to the gym lately, but this time not to test other people’s response, just my own. To get the best workout you need to be in the right frame of mind, so the purpose of the test was to find out whether it had positive or negative effects on my workout. > > So far I have definetly noticed a difference, just can’t quite explain it yet. It’s definelty a positive one, although I can’t yet say it had an effect on the actual physical side of the workout. > And no negative effects or depression before or after the workouts so far. > > I’m going to keep testing this week onweek off untill I get specific results for myself. > Already noticed the dramtic effects it’s had on the people around me, men & women… Supposedly the androstenone increases your testosterone levels. Not by much I imagine but every little bit helps. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2007, 2:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/be-careful-with-turn-up-the-heat/3770/32 "2007-11-23T14:00:39Z")
> [@Pheraoh](#): > > Supposedly the androstenone increases your testosterone levels. Not by much I imagine but every little bit helps. Anyone feel some flushing (reddening) of the face at times hours after applying -none? It seems to me as though my body is compensating and producing more testosterone and -none as a result… ---
**Author:** ![Tama1981K](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tama1981k/32/1685_2.png) [@Tama1981K](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tama1981K)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2007, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/be-careful-with-turn-up-the-heat/3770/33 "2007-11-23T20:21:39Z")
> [@Phoenix](#): > > Anyone feel some flushing (reddening) of the face at times hours after applying -none? > It seems to me as though my body is compensating and producing more testosterone and -none as a result… Yes it has happend to myself and others before…you could be right about the body compensating as MadisonTate and I have discussed earlier. ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2007, 12:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/be-careful-with-turn-up-the-heat/3770/34 "2007-11-24T00:29:51Z")
> [@Phoenix](#): > > Anyone feel some flushing (reddening) of the face at times hours after applying -none? > It seems to me as though my body is compensating and producing more testosterone and -none as a result… I believe it was Toilofday that made a post about getting some testing done. One of which was his testosterone levels and I believe he said his results were double what is considered normal. I’m not sure how often he was using none, but something to think about. It would also explain the edginess and aggression it can cause at high doses. I sometimes get the none rush, but I use it quite sparingly. I’ve put little dabs under my nose before a workout and noticed a difference. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2007, 6:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/be-careful-with-turn-up-the-heat/3770/35 "2007-11-24T18:08:04Z")
> [@Pheraoh](#): > > I believe it was Toilofday that made a post about getting some testing done. One of which was his testosterone levels and I believe he said his results were double what is considered normal. I’m not sure how often he was using none, but something to think about. > > It would also explain the edginess and aggression it can cause at high doses. I sometimes get the none rush, but I use it quite sparingly. I’ve put little dabs under my nose before a workout and noticed a difference. I recall it now that you mention it. I googled and found this research: > [@](#): > > Androstenone has no androgenic effect as measured by the “Chicken comb test” [14](http://www.actavetscand.com/content/48/S1/S5#B14)]. Whether it has any effect on its own production/secretion through a feed-back on the production/secretion of GnRH and gonadotropins, appears to be unknown. An effect in the testes can not be ruled out: a specific binding of 5α-androstenone to human testicular cytosolic fraction has been reported [15](http://www.actavetscand.com/content/48/S1/S5#B15)]. it’s from [Acta Veterinaria Scandinavica | Full text | Boar taint related compounds: Androstenone/skatole/other substances](http://www.actavetscand.com/content/48/S1/S5) So if I’m getting it correctly whether -none has an effect on testosterone levels is unknown (well the study is from 2006).. but it may be possible.. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/be-careful-with-turn-up-the-heat/3770.md?page=1)