# Been here before need advice fast. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 19, 2010, 8:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-here-before-need-advice-fast/38719 "2010-05-19T08:24:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Xitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/73ab20/32.png) [@Xitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xitty)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 8:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-here-before-need-advice-fast/38719/1 "2010-05-19T08:24:41Z")
Okay here is the deal I meet this younger girl I am really taking a shine to her now. I just meet her parents the other day her father is still a bit on edge with me I think and for the first hour when he came home from work and he seen me there with his daughter I do not think he was none too happy with the situation. I did not really know I would have the feelings for her that I do now but I do. She has been through a ton of stuff that I am still doing my best to work with her on and one of the main barriers I see with her is a massive trust issue due to a past long term relation going sour on her which she is just slowly starting to pull out of now. She is 19 almost 20 so I guess my question would be on how I can get her to A. To give me more trust B. How to seal this deal once and for all as we are still just friends but I really want to start dating her. It is so amazing as to how many things we talk about that we both like when it comes to fun activities. I honestly have never meet a girl like this that matches up to me so well but do not get me wrong we do have allot of differences too. I need this help fast as I want to get the right products to seal this up as I have earned enough of her trust that she keeps phoning me and getting ahold of me in some way without me always having to get ahold of her so we both have a talking back and forth friends sense I just need to have the extra little push as I can make her laugh and smile. I should also add she is four months pregnant it is not mine but a previous boyfriend of hers that us to abuse her which is mainly why she ended up getting out of the relation. I need your help guys as I want to order products like ASAP. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 11:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-here-before-need-advice-fast/38719/2 "2010-05-19T11:53:24Z")
Unfortunately the best product you could get is out of stock and that’s [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). I’d actually suggest some of that along with some Instant Honesty and Instant Shine. Now the latter two you can get and use but I don’t think it’s going to have the same effect as using IG as a base would. How much of an age difference are we talking that has her dad so nervous? ---
**Author:** ![Xitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/73ab20/32.png) [@Xitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xitty)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 1:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-here-before-need-advice-fast/38719/3 "2010-05-19T13:59:47Z")
It is not so much the age gap I do not think as it is the whole thing on trusting other guys around his little daughter due to the crap he has had to go through before with past boyfriends of hers. Most all the guys she use to drag home use to hit her and treat her like crap. I honestly do not think that this girl has actually faced a real bond able loving guy like me. Just with a few of the things I did with her I think she was making the connection but was unsure of what to do. My theory is due to these guys being so abusive I am sure they were not the best lovers at all so the little steps leading up to the climax never even took place. She even tells me at times she does not know how to handle such a loving caring sweet gentle guy like me due to her past relations being such abusive ones. Just very easy things like rubbing underneath the elbow nice and softly amongst a few others I have gone for such as the leg region. I have not even tried the neck region yet due to her being not so trusting considering all these guys she tells me about did some kind of abusive attack to her. I have only touched the surface of what this girl has had to go through as well as the ongoing stuff that keeps on hitting her family right in the face with problems due to her past not really being the best. Her last boyfriend us to knock her up side the head where she has a plate in her head then proceeded to jump on her while she was out cold if you know what I mean. Her family is just getting to know these things now about her past boyfriend. I do not think it is so much of the age gap between us as it is a natural reaction to be protecting his daughter from this madness as all as he has ever seen himself was guys that treated her like nothing but crap. When we started talking to one another he really started to open up to me fast and it really hit the girl I like as I know her father wants to see more of me due to him coming over and shaking my hand after we had left as well as him making the extra effort to see us out safe. She tells me her father usually never does that. I think her father realized right away well here is a guy that finally is not a prick that is with my daughter. Trust me on this one I even had to see it with my father as my sister had the same thing done to her. There were only really a select few guys he opened up to himself so I know all about it. Her its hitting her now like a ton of bricks as her mother loved me the moment I stepped through the door. I am basically at the point now where its getting closer to decision making time now for her. ---
**Author:** ![Bjorn89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/94ad74/32.png) [@Bjorn89](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bjorn89)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-here-before-need-advice-fast/38719/4 "2010-05-19T17:57:31Z")
She gets laid by one guy, then the other guy raises it. (Classical spermwars example lol). Anyways, I can’t give much advice on the moans, I do advice you to consider the fact your going to fight an enormous emotional battle and if your willing to-do that.(you can’t change her she can only do that herself). ---
**Author:** ![Xitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/73ab20/32.png) [@Xitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xitty)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-here-before-need-advice-fast/38719/5 "2010-05-19T18:19:16Z")
Well I would like to think that I am more of a man than most men out there that are scared to step up to the plate when things hit the fan and reality kicks in. A friend of mine is going through the same thing as I am and now he is happily married to her and even though this other guy she was with before has visitation rights it is not right for any man to be laying a hand on any woman out there. It is morally wrong and I like to think of myself as being that Knight in shining armor that would do anything to help a woman from any man that I saw with my own eyes laying a hand on any woman out there. I also have a very high spiritual back ground which she really is not accustomed to. There is allot of change that she sees for the better that is hitting her very hard emotionally just stirring around in her head. She is dealing with a father that wants nothing to do with the kid that he brought forth to her while she was knocked out stone cold from when he struck her. This is not just a case of her wanting to do that at all it was forced upon her. Basically she was being raped and she was so scared of him herself I am now struggling with a massive trust issue with her myself. I am not wanting to get in her pants at all due to my background. I am only wanting the extra push for her to be able to trust me as a person she can trust. Later on when things start to cool down a bit and I get to know her family better as well as me seeing that there is more of an acceptance from them. Then maybe I will think about things then but for now as far as I have ever went with her was a hug. ---
**Author:** ![Bjorn89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/94ad74/32.png) [@Bjorn89](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bjorn89)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-here-before-need-advice-fast/38719/6 "2010-05-19T19:08:59Z")
> [@Xitty](#): > > Well I would like to think that I am more of a man than most men out there that are scared to step up to the plate when things hit the fan and reality kicks in. A friend of mine is going through the same thing as I am and now he is happily married to her and even though this other guy she was with before has visitation rights it is not right for any man to be laying a hand on any woman out there. > It is morally wrong and I like to think of myself as being that Knight in shining armor that would do anything to help a woman from any man that I saw with my own eyes laying a hand on any woman out there. > I also have a very high spiritual back ground which she really is not accustomed to. There is allot of change that she sees for the better that is hitting her very hard emotionally just stirring around in her head. She is dealing with a father that wants nothing to do with the kid that he brought forth to her while she was knocked out stone cold from when he struck her. > This is not just a case of her wanting to do that at all it was forced upon her. Basically she was being raped and she was so scared of him herself I am now struggling with a massive trust issue with her myself. > I am not wanting to get in her pants at all due to my background. I am only wanting the extra push for her to be able to trust me as a person she can trust. > Later on when things start to cool down a bit and I get to know her family better as well as me seeing that there is more of an acceptance from them. Then maybe I will think about things then but for now as far as I have ever went with her was a hug. I’m not saying it’s bad mate, not at all I really think it takes alot of guts(what kind of spirituality do you practice, I’m fan of meditation myself). What I was pointing out that this is a classical example of the Alpha guy(how much of a prick he is) impregnates a girl and then according to theory the provider picks up and supports her(genes v.s resources). Ofcourse for you this is so much more and I am happy for you with that! ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-here-before-need-advice-fast/38719/7 "2010-05-20T03:28:47Z")
I’m not going to assume to know you or to fully understand your situation as I don’t. I do however know a bit about the knight in shining armor riding a white horse thing, and some people look at it as a complex. It’s not gender specific as women will fall into these kinds of relationships as often as men. But quite often when we get into relationships like this it’s not a case of wanting to protect a person because we care about them, so much as we find ourselves caring about them because they need protecting. In many ways it can be indicative of the would be protector feeling the need to be needed and it’s not healthy to either party as the broken wing can become a financial, emotional, physical burden on the rescuer, and often times the “hero” might unconsciously encourage the other persons dependence on him/her. The girl see’s the knight as the hero, the rescuer etc but not as a man with a man’s flaws. Conversely feeling like a hero can be quite addicting and the relationship for the knight becomes more a matter of how being a hero makes him feel and less about the person they would be saving. The person simply becomes a means to feed that addiction. Now, in the sincerest hope that I haven’t offended you with that. I will repeat that without knowing you or understanding all of the details of the situation, I only encourage you to do some introspection and ask yourself if the feelings you have for this girl would be the same if she wasn’t in need of saving. If so and her current situation and emotional state are simply coincidental to your interest in her as a person then encouraging trust is most likely to be achieved with the aid of [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), Instant Honesty and possibly some Instant Shine. Avoid anything containing None as a bad sexual experience like she’s had can make even her own sexual feelings psychologically uncomfortable to her. ---
**Author:** ![Xitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/73ab20/32.png) [@Xitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xitty)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-here-before-need-advice-fast/38719/8 "2010-05-20T04:51:54Z")
No I was just using that as an example to say that I am a very stand up guy that does not like seeing women being struck by any man. I have left out allot of details there is allot more to this story I only said with what had to be said. I was honestly leaning towards them two products also as I do not want to be seen as a sexual figure to her at this point. I only want to be the good trusting guy that she can come to for the moral support that I see that she needs right now. Like I say due to the consequences she is faced with at this point I only want to be that trusting guy she can come to when she needs someone to talk with. ---
**Author:** ![Bjorn89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/94ad74/32.png) [@Bjorn89](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bjorn89)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 7:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-here-before-need-advice-fast/38719/9 "2010-05-20T07:37:49Z")
We just warn you that your hearth might be broken. Anyways, i’m not going to imply my own beliefs anymore. I wish thy goodluck 😉 and do what-ever makes you happy