# Been Kicked outta better places then L/S

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-kicked-outta-better-places-then-l-s/428>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 17, 2006, 1:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-kicked-outta-better-places-then-l-s/428 "2006-06-17T01:50:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-kicked-outta-better-places-then-l-s/428/21 "2006-06-20T02:56:01Z")

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> [@PHERSURF](#):
>
> Ha Ha!
> 
> Anytime I post something positive about DD over there, and include scientific studies that support his conclusions I get blasted! When I posted ways to “create attraction” I was told that it’s not possible to create attraction, even after postinge examples.
> 
> Most of the time they would say I was promoting not being a gentlman and acting like a jerk! Nothing could be further from the truth! They just couldn’t get that, when said correctly, C&F comes across as playful teasing and builds sexual tension.
> 
> I haven’t really posted any of that stuff here yet. Hopefully there are a few more open minds here.

Yeah I’ve posted stuff like that over there. Basic things that create attraction other than pheremones.. for example a proper diet, exercise and actually caring about “physical appearance.” Funny how I was banned for that, yet they could give the same sensible advice of “you cannot depend on the mones to do the work for you.”

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 6:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-kicked-outta-better-places-then-l-s/428/22 "2006-06-20T06:30:30Z")

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Maybe we ought to start the Banned Club? lol

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**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 6:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-kicked-outta-better-places-then-l-s/428/23 "2006-06-20T06:34:27Z")

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Yep=) A lil’ good LS bashin. lol

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-kicked-outta-better-places-then-l-s/428/24 "2006-06-20T16:41:23Z")

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I’m not really one for bashing. I just find it amusing how many of us were banned, and don’t know why!

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 5:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-kicked-outta-better-places-then-l-s/428/25 "2006-06-20T17:58:32Z")

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> [@catlord17](#):
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> Maybe we ought to start the Banned Club? lol

You already got it. Right here.

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 8:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-kicked-outta-better-places-then-l-s/428/26 "2006-06-20T20:54:27Z")

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I’m not banned from there yet. feeling a little left out “the club” lol. Maybe I should make an androtics thread over there…😃

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 6:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-kicked-outta-better-places-then-l-s/428/27 "2006-06-21T06:18:18Z")

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> [@sigma](#):
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> I’m not banned from there yet. feeling a little left out “the club” lol. Maybe I should make an androtics thread over there…😃

You may not have to, if their mods are reading this. lmao

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2006, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-kicked-outta-better-places-then-l-s/428/28 "2006-07-03T20:55:23Z")

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This is why I get agged with the mentallity over at the LS forums:

[http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?p=186819#post186819](http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?p=186819#post186819)

mindless zombies of LS group-think!

::end rant::

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**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2006, 10:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-kicked-outta-better-places-then-l-s/428/29 "2006-07-03T22:15:09Z")

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I watched that unfold this afternoon, as I was getting ready to teach, and I remember thinking at the time, “Sigma, please just bite your tongue on this one.”

I too would have got riled, to be honest - and especially at bronzie’s caustic comments, but it is better occasionally to back down - safe as we are in the knowledge that WE here, give the feedback for the products, so therefore WE know they do what we say they do.

We are not mindless puppets, in anyone’s pocket, but what we SHOULD be, is prepared to bite the bullet and NOT go down to their level, as a slanging match could ensue.

Then, instead of being the good guy - which everybody here knows you are, you would be turned into the scapegoat, and why should you allow them to make you feel that way?

The people here know you’re telling the truth.

Doesn’t that count? 🙂

Ail 🙂

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2006, 10:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-kicked-outta-better-places-then-l-s/428/30 "2006-07-03T22:25:13Z")

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We’ve seen closed mindsets before, here to a degree, certainly there. Just ask Catlord about the reactions he got to some of his posts…

Human nature. Both in the young and the old… Us smart ones just shrug and make up our own minds.

“My mind is made up. Don’t confuse me with facts.”

We are all different. Have different preferences, reactions, etc. Such is life.

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2006, 10:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-kicked-outta-better-places-then-l-s/428/31 "2006-07-03T22:31:31Z")

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> [@Ail](#):
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> I watched that unfold this afternoon, as I was getting ready to teach, and I remember thinking at the time, “Sigma, please just bite your tongue on this one.”
> 
> I too would have got riled, to be honest - and especially at bronzie’s caustic comments, but it is better occasionally to back down - safe as we are in the knowledge that WE here, give the feedback for the products, so therefore WE know they do what we say they do.
> 
> We are not mindless puppets, in anyone’s pocket, but what we SHOULD be, is prepared to bite the bullet and NOT go down to their level, as a slanging match could ensue.
> 
> Then, instead of being the good guy - which everybody here knows you are, you would be turned into the scapegoat, and why should you allow them to make you feel that way?
> 
> The people here know you’re telling the truth.
> 
> Doesn’t that count? 🙂
> 
> Ail 🙂

so I’m the nice guy now? _great_ we all know how that goes lol.

Ironically, because of the closed mindset of the posters there, they’re missing out on quite a bit. It wouldn’t suprised me if I got banned but eh, “Been kicked out of better places than LS”

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**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2006, 10:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-kicked-outta-better-places-then-l-s/428/32 "2006-07-03T22:31:50Z")

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Yes, I watched them attack Catlord.

They basically were falling VERY short of actually accusing him of being a Rep for, or affiliate of, Pherlure.

I was horrified by the way that thread went, in fact.

Ail 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2006, 10:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-kicked-outta-better-places-then-l-s/428/33 "2006-07-03T22:37:28Z")

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If you look at an earlier post of mine made in another thread today, Sigma, you will see that I would take the good guy over the bad guy, any day of the week - and exactly why.

I’m still quite shocked I made the post I did, in fact - but hey, I guess that in itself shows major progress.

I have the good guy now. He was my best friend for almost 12 years too, without ever a notion of anything ever going beyond friendship for either of us - until a year ago yesterday.

Good guys do not always finish last - sometimes, it’s quite the opposite. ^\_\_\_^

Ail 🙂

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2006, 10:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-kicked-outta-better-places-then-l-s/428/34 "2006-07-03T22:44:04Z")

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> [@Ail](#):
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> If you look at an earlier post of mine made in another thread today, Sigma, you will see that I would take the good guy over the bad day, any day of the week - and exactly why.
> 
> I’m still quite shocked I made the post I did, in fact - but hey, I guess that in itself shows major progress.
> 
> I have the good guy now. He was my best friend for almost 12 years too, without ever a notion of anything ever going beyond friendship for either of us - until a year ago yesterday.
> 
> Good guys do not always finish last - sometimes, it’s quite the opposite. ^\_\_\_^
> 
> Ail 🙂

Winning your favortism makes it all worth it. For your man and myself 😉

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**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2006, 10:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-kicked-outta-better-places-then-l-s/428/35 "2006-07-03T22:50:36Z")

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Hehe..

Well,'tis hitting midnight here, and I must leave you all for the night, and catch you on the Flip-Side.

Just keep your cool over there, Sigma. LS benefits a lot from your valuable input, whether they admit it or not.

They banned Catlord, who also gave them excellent input - don’t give them ANY excuse to take you down.

..mind you, I would take that uppity wee Aussie, Bronzie out, any time he felt like coming over here for a Kick-Boxing bout.. \>-\<

..any time at ALL.

G’night!

Ail 🙂

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2006, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-kicked-outta-better-places-then-l-s/428/36 "2006-07-04T01:56:24Z")

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Now now, Ail, Bronzie is entitled to his opinion just like everyone else. Even if it does make one laugh out loud on occasion. 😉

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**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2006, 6:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-kicked-outta-better-places-then-l-s/428/37 "2006-07-04T06:26:11Z")

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Ehhh..no.

Assuming you still can’t see what he said, trust me, you would want to lynch him too.

He makes some very asinine remarks about “the makers of A314” and some pretty assumptive and downright rude comments about the way this site is promoted, and marketed - and how LS in comparison conducts itself impeccably.

There is NO place for that kind of needless bias.

Ail 🙂

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2006, 7:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-kicked-outta-better-places-then-l-s/428/38 "2006-07-04T07:13:21Z")

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> [@Ail](#):
>
> Ehhh..no.
> 
> Assuming you still can’t see what he said, trust me, you would want to lynch him too.
> 
> He makes some very asinine remarks about “the makers of A314” and some pretty assumptive and downright rude comments about the way this site is promoted, and marketed - and how LS in comparison conducts itself impeccably.
> 
> There is NO place for that kind of needless bias.
> 
> Ail 🙂

eh I’ve decided I’m through with the forum and LS. I have no hard feelings towards LS or the posters there. I just have no interest in the products being offered there…I had gotten bored with their products for months before finally ending up here and being reinvigorated to trying new things. I just wish I had the budget I had back then lol. In due time though.

As far as the forum goes…its obvious that my own views and perspectives to things are out of line with the monolithic status quo established on LS. Its pointless to participate in a forum if you’re not going to be taken seriously. They have good reason to police the forums the way they do, as they’ve had a long history of abusive posters in the past. By policing the forums in such a manner though, they’ve indirectly instilled a sense of hostillity towards those who don’t see things the way they do…it might be a matter of defending products offered elsewhere, or something less trivial than that. Either way if you don’t see things their way, you’re almost immediately outcasted. You’d like to defend your point, but when doing so gets you banned you really don’t have many options. Its not like they intended things to be this way…I guess you could blame it on all the illegimate companies out there. It still leaves a sour taste in your mouth though.

After a while you start asking yourself “whats the point?”

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2006, 8:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-kicked-outta-better-places-then-l-s/428/39 "2006-07-04T08:20:09Z")

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> [@Ail](#):
>
> Ehhh..no.
> 
> Assuming you still can’t see what he said, trust me, you would want to lynch him too.
> 
> He makes some very asinine remarks about “the makers of A314” and some pretty assumptive and downright rude comments about the way this site is promoted, and marketed - and how LS in comparison conducts itself impeccably.
> 
> There is NO place for that kind of needless bias.
> 
> Ail 🙂

Ail, I read what he said. It actually made me laugh. It’s usually funny when someone talks without knowing what they’re talking about. But it’s his opinion, and if you’re going to take his right to express it away, what’s to stop someone else from doing the same to you about yours? Don’t take it so seriously. Really. The truth is out there, and such a person usually makes it obvious that they are not very knowledgeable anyway. It would be one thing if he were speaking from a basis of fact, but his comments are opinion, even if he thinks they’re fact. And even if he can’t see how that makes him look to those who know what the truth is, then let the man have more rope.

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**Author:** ![itwow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/itwow/32/1493_2.png) [@itwow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/itwow)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2006, 11:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/been-kicked-outta-better-places-then-l-s/428/40 "2006-07-04T11:36:06Z")

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> [@Ail](#):
>
> Ehhh..no.
> 
> Assuming you still can’t see what he said, trust me, you would want to lynch him too.
> 
> He makes some very asinine remarks about “the makers of A314” and some pretty assumptive and downright rude comments about the way this site is promoted, and marketed - and how LS in comparison conducts itself impeccably.
> 
> There is NO place for that kind of needless bias.
> 
> Ail 🙂

LS is not as honest as touted to be.

That guy doesn’t know what he’s saying. He should _go out more_ wrt pheromones. I failed to see the reason of his loyalty to Dodd’s PheroFragrance, after testing both male & female’s versions myself.

Let it roll off your back.

i2w

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