# before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [July 5, 2006, 5:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476 "2006-07-05T17:01:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2006, 1:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/15 "2006-07-08T13:54:28Z")

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P79, Est, [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/)

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> Clearly something worth paying attention to is at work with P79, sometimes you have to cross a dosage threshold and then the pheromone  
> “clicks into place” … what P79 does for me is up my male energy, I just feel more purposive, man like, goal driven… the female brain may read this as “high quality provider” … women’s brains are sooooo attuned to subtexts of protector, provider, non-needy, self sufficiency… P79 may be suggesting that…
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> OTOH I’ve also observed that good old EST will add a super friendly, approachable, initmate vibe to the proceedings… EST is like a powerful sweetener… I’ve seen women literally get up and start dancing around saying the most outrageous uninhibited stuff in the presence of EST and P74… hard to believe we are looking at **millionths of a gram** here…

do you find any dampening effect of P79 on playfulness? (ie would A314 +P79 be overly serious for, say, a club environment). I can’t say that I have noticed any such effect so far at 50 mcg.

EST dosage?

also wrt P79, EST, P74 - how directed have you found their impact to be? P79 seems to be attributable to the wearer. P74 so far seems to be more background music that changes the vibe.

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