# before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [July 5, 2006, 5:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476 "2006-07-05T17:01:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2006, 5:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/50 "2006-07-16T17:53:40Z")

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> [@PheroQuirk](#):
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> different vibe to beta-nol? beta-nol = truth drug, compelled to blurt things out (‘why did i just say that’?) but also intimate, intense bonding, it’s v important we talk now aspect? EST is on it’s way and have not yet tried. P74 seems to be have a little bit of similarity to how i have observed people behave after ingesting mdma - come here and give me a hug, i just feel so comfortable with you.

Yessss… different vibe OK… b-nol makes you feel like you need to expose deeper hidden layers of yourself, there almost a compulsive exhibitionism at some point, maybe not quite that… I’ve observed with certain folks with large quantities of poorly resolved ESB (scientific term for extra shit on the brain) go into lava flow mode, and intoxicated persons behave, well, pretty damn ludicrously although harmless… never saw anyone become grouchy around b-nol, can be tedious as hell to nod and agree… ya don’t say, ya don’t say, izzat so ?, how… intriguing… you inner realizations about the true nature of it all and everything, deeeep dude, I gotta handit 2 ya… puleeeeze, where is the exit door…

[P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) is more dialogic, two way communication, like you have comprehension and appreciation for the person you’re hanging with, less cosmic internality… and **EST can put a real cherry on top of that** , it’s all so sweet, so cuuute, so lovey and fluffy… helps to be exposed to this yourself so you’re in an empathetic well humored mood to take the goooey goo in stride… bunny rabbits and godiva chawklit drops and rainbows and mutliple orgasms !!!.. but of course… how human !, how natural !.. I fully understand…

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