# beginning to end-the average guys experience

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [March 19, 2010, 5:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beginning-to-end-the-average-guys-experience/37140 "2010-03-19T17:26:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![zadist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zadist/32/1026_2.png) [@zadist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zadist)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 5:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beginning-to-end-the-average-guys-experience/37140/1 "2010-03-19T17:26:09Z")

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Welcome everyone to my new post. I am going to try to create a posting here that will document my first experience with Pheremones right here. This is not going to be one post of course. If you have comments or suggestions or even some words of advice, just reply here. Oh and I’m adding this into the feedback section because this is a snapshot of one customers experience from beginning to end… sounds feedbackish to me.. winks!

OK well first if you REALLY want a detailed story of my beginnings and who I am go read my welcome in that section. I am going to start this post where that one leaves off.

When I found this forum I was very excited because my curiosity had already been piqued from a TV show. Anyways, I read about the $25 gift card for a good welcome post. That was a huge grabber for me because one of my biggest concerns is that you buy something expensive and nothing works.. ya just bought some maple syrup for $75. Oh, yea, I’ve done that a billion times because I love odd things and out of the box concepts. However, that makes me prone to every quack job and schiester out there. $25 made me smile. I got some amazing people greeting me and giving some great advice as well.

So, I decided time to take the plunge and go to “a” store. I put that word in quotes because at the time I didn’t realize that the forum was part of a store… hmm good marketing or a fantastic way to catch someone like me that believes about everything he reads. I started to read the reviews on the web site. All very good for the most part. Then my weird little mind starts to go into overdrive. How would I know if these are all real reviews. maybe its some elaborate telemarketing thing where every employee has to post a review. Then I found one review that really just frustrated me. It was one review where a guy found the EXACT same review bu using different towns. Even the amount of “ooo” were the same in both posts. OK, this just ticked me off cause now I am thinking SCAM. Let’s face it folks, this stuff is not too far off from the elixers in the side show rolling through town, or the fountain of youth. None of which by the way worked.  
OK so at this point I am frustrated, but, hey this is me and I like to find stuff out for myself and I LOVE colognes and such so this is right up my alley.  
So once again I am looking at all the products and getting excited forgetting the dumb reviews because simply I need to find out for myself. But then that sticks me back in the spending a gazillion dollars to test 50 different bottles to find the one that works for me. It’s the calculated risk that is nerve wracking. So I read their return policy and HOLY S\*\*T like the best return policy EVER!  
So now I come to me writing this: feedback from z’s personal peanut gallery.. ready store people here it is:

1. Set up some sort of way to get a notice about that $25 giftcard cause many people like the idea of less risk for the first attempt
2. Chill out on the millions of reviews everywhere. It sort of makes it feel like you need to overly justify your product. And it makes me mental.. haha since I know your worried about me ☹ winks.
3. Not sure If you have it already but if you don’t you need to get some of this stuff scientifically tested. Doesn’t have to be an expensive experience. hell at the University where I work we have done many just for the experience of doing it for their resumes. But rest ceasy on some of thos reviews and hit the science hard. I’d be all over one simple statement like " The University of so and so tested this under controled conditions and found that males in their 30’s and up had 75% more positive female experiences then the control group" and then dump all those extra reviews.
4. The forum is AWESOME.. love it love it love it!!!
5. How about thinking of selling packages of this stuff. Like buy the clubbing package which contains [ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) , a1234, and honesty… something like that.

Ok well, hit me back and let me know your thoughts on all of this.  
Now I need to buy something after I hear about the 25$… AND MY CRAZY MIND HAS TO DECIDE WHICH ONE TO BUY AS WELL.

See ya and keep smiling…

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**Author:** ![zadist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zadist/32/1026_2.png) [@zadist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zadist)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 5:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beginning-to-end-the-average-guys-experience/37140/2 "2010-03-19T17:30:22Z")

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Who am I.. read on young one..Re: beginning to end-the average guys experience

Well my name is Zadist and yea its a weird name but i’m ma weird guy so it’s fitting. I am from PIttsburgh, Pa, Go Steelers! I am a Musician/ DJ. I am also an administrator in the public sector and have a staff of 75.  
Why am I here? That’s a great question and I find myself reflecting really hard on that idea. Well it started with an infomercial for Athena X10 which I watched and found interesting, and this stuff is made in PA! So my interest was pinched. How can a LIQUID make someones mental state change. My first reaction was… BULL\*\*\*\*! But then I had to let my creative mind get a shot at this idea. OK, I’m a musician and I can’t count how many times i’ve seen music or a good light show make some major changes in a crowds mood. Hell, that’s why I get paid to spin or play music… that’s my job to get them either horney or romantic, or playful, or serene. Yea, so if sound and sight can do it why can’t just another one of our senses do the exact same thing… smell!  
OK so my curiousity is completely off the charts at this point. So I do what every human does these days, I go to the net. The first site I find is this person telling me its nothing but scam after scam. The next one I find is similar but this time he says " But there are two out there that have been scientifically proven to work… Athena X10 ( the one I heard about.. Yay me!) and this one called pheru (sp?). So ok science, I can get behind science. Then I ran into this site called pheromonetalk.. oh wait that’s right here… is this mic still on? So now here I am and thats how I got here.  
OK next question. why am I interested. I’ll be brief ( yea right!).  
I am first in search of truth cause I find this amazingly interesting from a creative point of view.. sort of just one more way to enhance people sight song and now smell! Second, I dig the combination of smells, I am a huge dork when it comes to cologne. So I guess I like smells. And of course finally, it would certainly NEVER hurt to have that ability to turn a few heads and be more confident in myself and know that others may be sensing me. OK, seriously people just look at how I write and talk. I like attention and i like to be the center of it all. Chuckles.. yea well at least i’m honest right!  
OK recap:  
i’m 38 years old and I want to hit this on two fronts. One, work time I want to feel confident and i want the workers around me to feel comfortable around me yet have that slight auora or don’t totally mess with him.. think batman. dark mysterous but all around good guy. Two, I want to be the guy that walks into a room and everyone turns their head and goes… Ohhh mes likes himmmm!! Never had that attention and always wanted it! Give me a dance floor or a piano or drums and I’ll make you swoon. The sad part is they can be a b\*\*\*h on the back and hard to take to work.  
I’ll even leave a question… this is one of my favorite questions… ready for it… now what?  
This is my first stop in the wonderment of discovery… What should I buy first? How do I do this thing? Ive read the noob guide by someone named splat or something. it was awesome read but didn’t give me a starting point as in " if your totally new, go here and buy this:…  
OK.. winks to the crowd and shuts off the mic… takes a deep bow… smiles to Jazmine who I think is the big boss lady and makes his exit!!!

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**Author:** ![zadist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zadist/32/1026_2.png) [@zadist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zadist)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beginning-to-end-the-average-guys-experience/37140/3 "2010-03-19T17:31:37Z")

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UPDATE:beginning to end-the average guys experience

This is an update. I think I set this welcome message on Wednesday maybe. Well this morning I woke up to a really cool email. It is a $25 [gift certificate](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934) to this store. OK, now seriously, how many companies say they are going to do something then you find out it has some catch.. like heres your [gift certificate](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934) , oh and by the way the only way to use it is if you spend $1000. Ha yea right… well this one has NO STRINGS ATTACHED… ok i’m diggin this company.

Z

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**Author:** ![zadist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zadist/32/1026_2.png) [@zadist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zadist)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beginning-to-end-the-average-guys-experience/37140/4 "2010-03-19T17:32:51Z")

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First Purchase: beginning to end-the average guys experience

Hello everyone its me the loud mouth. Well I just wanted you to know a few things. First of all I just sent in my first order. I killed myself to choose the one I wanted. I chose! [AMMO](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) … I got myh [gift certificate](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934) and off I went to buy [AMMO](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) … well shit!!! They were out! Now that was the first time I got slightly irritated cause the other one I was looking at was more expensive. So I decided to go for a smaller one the togo ones. OUT!!! shit now i’m just cranky. Well I went back to the drawing board and did more research. The reviews out there on the net about [mones](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) is interesting.. and it seems to be a 50/50 split on does it work.  
To make a long story short I chose to buy [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) . When I went to pay for it I had another frustrating situation. I was really happy about the extra 5 bucks off with reward points for signing up. So I was happy again… BUT… when I tried to pay with paypal… it woldnt let me use my money in my account I was REQUIRED to use a credit card. I didn’t want to! So I chose the option to go back to the store and choose another means of payment. When I did that I LOST MY DAMN $5 credit.  
So needless to say I was no down right pissed. So I paid and its on its way. If you want a blow by blow of my entire experience just hook up to this welcome or find me a place to keep writing cause I’m gonna write the whole time through this experience. Good, bad, or ugly i’m gonna give you the entire truth from one middle class average lookin, typical guy point of view.

Z

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 1:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beginning-to-end-the-average-guys-experience/37140/5 "2010-03-20T01:48:07Z")

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A little tip about A314, the hits are a SUBTLE. You might notice things over the long run with certain people instead of right away. Expect to be treated with more respect when out in public places. For example, when I wear A314 to the bar near my school, people always make it a point to say something to me when they pass bay. Whether it is a “sorry man” or “whatsup bro” or something like that. Strangely, it either doesn’t happen or happens a lot less frequently when I am not wearing a314. Know what to look for before discrediting it. A lot of the people who are unsuccessful with mones either expect way too much or don’t know what to look for. Some even use certain products in inappropriate places. You can pretty much wear A314 anywhere, but it is best used in places you to be seen as the person in charge.

Also, they will send you a free gift with your order, so you will get to experiment with something else too 🙂

Good luck and have fun experimenting! I think you are going to enjoy it!

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 4:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beginning-to-end-the-average-guys-experience/37140/6 "2010-03-20T04:08:32Z")

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Yeah like he said, A314’s effects are kind of subtle. Awesome over the long term but not a real fast acting product. Honestly You could have used the 25 dollar gift cert and the 5 dollar off bonus toward a few different to-go’s that way you can see what different products do. Figure they’ll send you a free sample of another product too that’s a lotta different samples to try out

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**Author:** ![zadist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zadist/32/1026_2.png) [@zadist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zadist)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 12:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beginning-to-end-the-average-guys-experience/37140/7 "2010-03-21T00:21:02Z")

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Responses and comments: beginning to end-the average guys experience

In response to the comments made.  
Yes I wanted to try the togo’s but as I said in one of my posts, they were mainly out of all the ones I had an interest in purchasing.

In terms of subtle hits:  
Yes, this is where the nay-sayers get their power to debate the product. I will as well since I am a skeptic about all things ( hence why I am here). Mind you, a skeptic is not a " devils advocate" nor is he negetive about everything. They simply look for truth to the endth degree. We use the hard sciences, true witness based accounts that can be replicated, and our own two eyes and experiences to come to truth. We rarely take someones word for it. With that being said I am very excited about receiving my purchase and finding out the truth.

Subtle hits is my largest concern for many people here are not interested in one more smile they get a day from wearing $80 chemicals. I am sure that just about everyone here is hoping for far more and when they do not get the dream they are dissatisfied. You see, subtle hits can easily be explained away with the concept of the placebo effect. The question may very well be " Are we in the Placebo’s anonymous forum?" And that is not entirely a bad thing for if it takes this to give you confidence, strength, courage, and happiness then hell go for it! If it gives me those things then I will certainly keep buying over and over again.  
The placebo effect can also have us seeing those subtle hits from the opposite sex. Maybe while wearing the chemical it makes us look harder for those smiles, touches, and extra attention that many times before we either took for granted or never saw because we assumed they were not meant by anything.

So think with me and think out loud right here in this forum. How can we explain away the placebo effect and truly shake those that do not believe right to their core? How can we retreat from telling everyone to not be disappointed when you only get an extra smile or an extra hello form the opposite sex that day. I will give you one piece of advice for this… don’t make excuses about it… don’t tell them to not be disappointed.. give them what to look for and when they come back and say yes that is exactly what I saw and felt then celebrate their achievements. For when you plant that seed in their head that it may only be subtle then that may only be what they get… and that may only be what they see… and they may or may not be pleased with that result.

So my fellow Americans ask not what the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) can do for you.. ask what… oh wait wrong speech.. sorry… now where was I…

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 1:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beginning-to-end-the-average-guys-experience/37140/8 "2010-03-21T01:01:57Z")

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Comparison and awareness. I’d suggest spending at least one week actively monitoring your interactions. For example, do you know how many different women that you don’t know…smiled at you over the past three days?. Probably not, but under a placebo effect a person will notice it more because he’s expecting it and thus paying attention to such things, even though the number of smiles he gets from women might be the same on average as before he started using mones.  
I’d say for one week track certain things  
Smiles from women you don’t know, both in the number of women, and how long or often they smile

Uninitiated kino…do women initiate physical contact more often when you’re wearing vs not. Being aware of what your “kino frequency is before you start using can help ensure that you’re not just noticing the kino more now”

If you’re using A314 you’re workplace is a prime example since that’s essentially what it’s geared for. Make a mental image of how you imagine your coworkers feel about you and you think their perception is of you. Based on their body language around you, facial expressions, vocal tonality and choice of wording give each one a “respects me” rating. 1=they hate you and think you’re a loser, 10=they think you’re a God among men. Then after a week of wearing, rate them again and see if anyones attitude toward you has changed, even if slightly.

Keep a count of how many compliments and or praise you receive from one week to the next

If your job involves any kind of sales, check and see if you’re making more or better sales from one week to the next.

Based off of this you can probably come up with a few more of your own idea’s. But keep in mind, A314’s effects are subtle and gradual. In all honesty I think tracking slow steady progress (especially among people you already know and see regularly) would be more effective and accurate but I understand a “need to know now” mentality, I’m guilty of it more often than not myself.

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**Author:** ![zadist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zadist/32/1026_2.png) [@zadist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zadist)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 3:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beginning-to-end-the-average-guys-experience/37140/9 "2010-03-21T03:24:04Z")

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response: beginning to end-the average guys experience

Now that was an excellent post!!

Yes I completely agree with your advice to look in advance… because if you don’t have some baseline then you have nothing to compare it to.

And since I decided to do this I have been watching and monitoring my current situation. I will show all the data when I am complete with this little experiment.

IN regards to slow and steady vs. quick and instant… well those that want instant gratification need not apply.. this is not a magic bullet as we all know..  
BUT… obvious vs. guessing if it was or was not a true hit is what I want to avoid or find a way to confirm the end result…  
regardless great post and love the advice…

hey you.. yea you over there along the wall… yea.. you REALLY need to read what this guy just said cause it is well written and everyone needs to see for themselves if this is the right product for you,

see ya  
z

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**Author:** ![zadist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zadist/32/1026_2.png) [@zadist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zadist)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beginning-to-end-the-average-guys-experience/37140/10 "2010-03-23T19:44:21Z")

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Greetings my fellow -moners ( ok well not really a word but it sounded good). Well today is Tuesday, almost one week since i have ordered A314. I am excited yet getting a bit concerned since we are looking at 7 days now. Here’s what’s on my mind… if anyone cares to hear me out.

I have been doing a bit of my own prep work for when my purchase arrives. On the average, I find myself feeling about 3 or 4 “hits” a day. That being said I better give you my deffination of a “hit”. A “hit” is when someone goes out of their way to smile, touch, do a kind gesture, or flirt with you. This is not a great defination but its mine… and you can’t have it.. chuckles… ok yes you can i’m teasing. Anways, 3 or 4 hits a day on average… BUT… the interesting thing is that it is always the same people. So my hope is to see a difference in one of two ways with the pheremones. Either:

1- have an increase in hits from the females that are currently being recorded as my regular hits.  
2- have one or two new females have a recorded hit.

With that being said one still needs to take into account the randomness of a hit. During the past 5 days, I have had only 1 random hit ( random meaning someone i did not know and do not work with). With this bit of information:

3- have at least 2 random hits a week.

If any one of these situations occur then I will gladly putn my stamp of approval on this product… and it’s such a pretty stamp.. all full of crazy colors… winks..

Z

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**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beginning-to-end-the-average-guys-experience/37140/11 "2010-03-23T19:59:55Z")

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> [@zadist](#):
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> How about thinking of selling packages of this stuff. Like buy the clubbing package which contains [ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) , a1234, and honesty… something like that.

LOL that made my day 🙂 i need get some that a1234 😉

just poking fun at u cuz dont have enough time to read all the posts

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**Author:** ![zadist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zadist/32/1026_2.png) [@zadist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zadist)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 2:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beginning-to-end-the-average-guys-experience/37140/12 "2010-03-24T14:41:39Z")

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Received Package: beginning to end-the average guys experience

Hello my fine feathered friends. I got poked at by the last reply because I called A314 by the wrong number. Little does he know that I’m lucky I got the correct forum. I also write on a few other " experimental " type boards as the town cynic. Try confusing two products on two different board.. talk about lookin like a goofball haha.. Oh well, such is life!

Now back to my story!

Today I received my package. Totally not what I expected. For some reason I was thinking brown box with flyers in it advertising more products. NOPE! I was pleasantly surprised by the simplicity of it all. It came in a fedex envelope. The date it was shipped was March 19 and I received it March 24. Over all it took under a week. Not bad and they tell you 3 to 5 days so no surprises. The beauty of this packaging was its discreetness. In no way would anyone have a clue what was inside the packaging. I am a private guy so I was quite happy about this. I had it sent to my work to get a total feel as to just how discreet it would be. They did not have one clue. No marks on the envelope that give a clue as to its contents.

I open the envelope and inside is a small item wrapped in green plastic bubble wrap.OK now seriously how many of us LOVE bubble wrap so A+ on getting to pop the sh\*t out of the bubble wrap! There was also the invoice. The invoice had one thing on it that really made me appreciate this company. There was a hand written note on the invoice saying "Hey Z, Enjoy your order. Then a smile face with the initials D c. OK now that’s just cool!

I opened my package and as everyone has told me I did get a gift along with my product. I was expecting a one shot of one of the products. Like wear this one time and see whats up… NO… WRONG… they gave me an ENTIRE TOGO of instant openness. Now that is mind blowing!

IN review of the money spent.  
Product cost $70  
Shipping $0  
Giftcard -$25  
Free gift worth $-7

So a $70 dollar gift actually cost me $38 buck if ya wanna look at it that way… or for $45 bucks I got two products! YOU CAN NOT BEAT THAT!!!

OK so far so good, everything they say on the web site is TRUE and they have backed it all up with results! Everything I have read about this to date on the forums have been proven completely ACCURATE!!!

IN review:  
did i get a gift card-----YES  
did it come in the accurate shipping time------YES  
did I get a free gift------ YES  
was it discreet------YES

Now the hardest part… does the product work.. stay tuned!!!

Z

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**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 4:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beginning-to-end-the-average-guys-experience/37140/13 "2010-03-24T16:26:21Z")

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Zadist Are you going to be starting a journal soon?🙂  
Continue doing your thing!🙂

MVKBugatti

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**Author:** ![zadist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zadist/32/1026_2.png) [@zadist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zadist)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beginning-to-end-the-average-guys-experience/37140/14 "2010-03-24T16:51:20Z")

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I’m not actually sure about the whole Journal thing. Do you have to be invited to do a journal? I was just sort of putting my thoughts here but, hell, sure I’ll write my stuff down anywhere, doesn’t really matter to me.  
Thanks for the suggestion…  
Here’s a pre-mature clip of my next post…

The first administration…

I choose to put one dab and ONLY one dab on my wrist and rub the wrists together… now again this is not the full writing just my first thought…

Within 15 min the first female I came in contact with started to giggle and gave me big smiles… now I know all these women around me and even though this particular woman is very kind and fun.. she’s not the giggling type.. and she was giggling like a school girl… +1 for A314

The next female came into my office for me to help her with something. She put her hands on my shoulders and was massaging my back. Now this person is the touchy feely type… HOWEVER… she has never been so overt about it and never in my office.. that’s like sacred ground.

OK well this is not my analysis of the first administration, just a response to the last post and a tiny insight into my first experience…

Love always,  
Z

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**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 5:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beginning-to-end-the-average-guys-experience/37140/15 "2010-03-24T17:24:54Z")

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Informational purpose: Zadist it’s open to all members.

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**Author:** ![zadist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zadist/32/1026_2.png) [@zadist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zadist)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beginning-to-end-the-average-guys-experience/37140/16 "2010-03-24T20:03:20Z")

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Hmm, well then maybe I shall start a journal. But who would come to read my words? It seems here that there are a few that may be following this journey. Are there more or less in the journal section?

Thank you for your suggestion.

Z

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 3:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beginning-to-end-the-average-guys-experience/37140/17 "2010-03-25T03:11:31Z")

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oh and they gave you a good one for the free gift. Sometimes A314 can be a little serious and intimidating, but IO helps kinda soften it.  
A314=High value, high status alpha male  
[Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)=fun light hearted chatty guy  
A314+Instant Openness=High Value Alpha Male that’s approachable and easy to talk to.

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**Author:** ![zadist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zadist/32/1026_2.png) [@zadist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zadist)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beginning-to-end-the-average-guys-experience/37140/18 "2010-03-25T18:17:18Z")

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First Full Day: beginning to end-the average guys experience

OK, well I already broke my own plans and rules to this experiment. But, I think my error does shine some light on the power of the mind in relation to this product… as well as some probable do’s and don’ts.

Well I came to work this morning and I was in a rush. I had the A314 and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) on my desk but I had to go to a meeting. The application of this product would have to wait.  
My plan for this day was to administer 2 drops of A314 which is one more drop then yesterday. If you recall within an hour of applying the A314 yesterday I had two really solid strange occurances back to back. After that I had another third occurance with one of my collegues who is normally a bit distant talk my ear off for about an hour. This is with A314 only mind you and i’m just loggin the things I am observing.. it’s up to you to diagnose for yourself why these things are all of a sudden happening (of course I have to give my opinion). Well back to this morning and me breaking my own rules..

When I got back to my desk there was a second meeting I had to go to and it was already started. I looked in the door and there was one georgous female in the meeting… OK guys.. what wold you have done in my place… YES.. I ran to my office and grabbed my stash!  
What an idiot I was.. I took two drops of A314 on my wrists and one squirt of IO behind my ear… needless to say I probably smelled like a whore house (my apologizes to anyone that is or was a whore and/or likes that smell) Honestly, It smelled good… but anyways..  
I walked into that meeting all tall and proud and anxious to see if this magic liquid works…after she took off in about 5 min at the conclusion of the meeting, I felt like an ass and my very structured and methodical test was shot for the day… back to the drawing board tomorrow…

Now the question is this… why did I react like that… that is not my style to go.. OHH pretty girl now I must make her smell me and she will be mine… haha! My guess is that part of my reaction is the psychology of this product. You want it to work so damn badly that it engulfs your brain. This makes me believe from this experience that your mind, attitude, and disposition to the experience plays HUGE role in the ability for this product to actually work for you.

Oh wow I almost forgot to give you the ending of girl from the meeting… I barely know her name… it’s Rose.. how do I know now.. well because she emailed me about 45 min afterwards to ask some dumb question like how do I get the email of a collegue of mine.. I wanted to say … " well it right beside whereever you found mine".. but instead I took the opportunity to lay the ground work for a good friendship I hope… +5 A314!!

Z

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 2:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beginning-to-end-the-average-guys-experience/37140/19 "2010-03-26T14:04:05Z")

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Hello friends… time for the next update… ya know I wonder if anyone is reading this… if you are.. reply with a hello.. or maybe even your own thoughts about the experience so far…

Yesterday was a bit of a bore other then that one interesting email ( see the post below).. but I did decide to purchase a few more products. I am going on a business trip to houston in 2 weeks so i figured might be a good time to test some of the sexier stuff.. i ordered ammo and turn up the heat in the TOGO sizes… not ready to buy the bigger bottles yet until I decide the effects. Below you will see the results of the order from yesterday

Order— easy cheesy man… i just wish that andronics was not on my credit card.. i like total anonymity.

Shipping-- holy crap batman… for $6 i ordered it 11am yesterday from the east coast and it is in my hands as we speak.. 9 am east coast… O.o wow! Oh and I got another hand written note from Jacob He said I was bad and to enjoy my order.. I love the human added touch to the order forms.. makes me wanna say hi to Jacob! Oh and yea Jacob I am bad… but you haven’t seen anything yet bro!

Free Gift-- well can’t all be roses… yea I do love free gifts and no one should ever be dissatisfied with anything free.. but this is a review so im writing it all out… I got the same free gift twice… I was hoping to get yet one more item that I didn’t have so I cold keep testing all of them… but hey free is free is free right?

Now tonight i’ll add some of these to see what kind of response I get… tonight im playing piano for a church play… ok start the ammo + church jokes now.. chuckles..

Currently I am at work (which is my primary testing area) and I have on 2 drops of a314 and one spray of IO… i’ll let you know later on if I get any positive results…

Well so far I have A314, IO (2 bottles) turn up the heat, and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)  
would anyone care to shoot me some good mix ideas to get the ladies all excited … for experimental purposes only of course… winks!

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 2:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beginning-to-end-the-average-guys-experience/37140/20 "2010-03-26T14:12:00Z")

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I’ve gotten good experiences with 2 drops A314, two sprays IO and a spray of TuTH. The effects with Instant Shine in place of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) were even better, you’re about the same age as me so a single shot of TuTH should be fine.

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