# best combo for college class? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 22, 2006, 9:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-combo-for-college-class/603 "2006-08-22T21:53:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![b737pilot88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ab097/32.png) [@b737pilot88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/b737pilot88)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 9:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-combo-for-college-class/603/1 "2006-08-22T21:53:41Z")
I want a mix combo b/c im entering college this fall and want all the girls to notice me, talk, have a chit-chat, etc… Anyone out there willing to help?🙂 ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-combo-for-college-class/603/2 "2006-08-22T21:54:11Z")
Io+ifm+is ---
**Author:** ![b737pilot88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ab097/32.png) [@b737pilot88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/b737pilot88)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-combo-for-college-class/603/3 "2006-08-22T21:55:35Z")
lol that was quick…thanks but how bout ammunition also? ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 10:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-combo-for-college-class/603/4 "2006-08-22T22:03:23Z")
> [@b737pilot88](#): > > lol that was quick…thanks but how bout ammunition also? ammunition by itself would be a good choice, though you could spike it with other [pheromones](https://a314.com/) if you likfe. I have the older version, which, according to michael, is more of an attention grabbing mix than the new one, which is more sexual, but I think both should fair well on campus. My campus currently has 35,000 students enrolled - you’re more likely to run into someone you don’t know than someone you do, and most of the interactions I have on a daily basis are of a casual nature. For that reason, I try to focus on mixes being more attention grabbing and social than all-out sexual when I’m at school. There’s nothing cooler than getting a mix right at school, and getting DIHL stares left and right while walking around campus. Great, great feeling. ---
**Author:** ![b737pilot88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ab097/32.png) [@b737pilot88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/b737pilot88)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 10:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-combo-for-college-class/603/5 "2006-08-22T22:07:51Z")
oh, i got the new ammunition…but i dont know if both will grab attention though alot. About the IO+IS+IFM, is that the same as ammunition also? did you ever try that mix with ammunition? ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 10:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-combo-for-college-class/603/6 "2006-08-22T22:12:20Z")
> [@b737pilot88](#): > > oh, i got the new ammunition…but i dont know if both will grab attention though alot. > > About the IO+IS+IFM, is that the same as ammunition also? did you ever try that mix with ammunition? Nah the contents of ammunition, from my understanding, would be different from that mix. I’ve never tried mixing IO+IS+IFM with ammunition. In fact I hardly mix with ammunition at all. The content of ammunition is to complicated and theres less control of the effects when trying to build mixes. I use ammunition mainly as a standalone, a re-application, or slightly spiked with other products to accentuate the effects of ammunition (as opposed to creating a new effect altogether). ---
**Author:** ![b737pilot88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ab097/32.png) [@b737pilot88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/b737pilot88)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 10:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-combo-for-college-class/603/7 "2006-08-22T22:13:53Z")
oh, thanks man! ---
**Author:** ![nfs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nfs/32/1656_2.png) [@nfs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nfs)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 12:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-combo-for-college-class/603/8 "2006-08-23T00:10:26Z")
Hey Sigma & B-Pilot, You guys smell any NONE stank in ammo ? I’m one who can’t smell none, so I need to know how bad it actually stinks compared to other none products like Edge or NPA or Primal I. ---
**Author:** ![b737pilot88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ab097/32.png) [@b737pilot88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/b737pilot88)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 12:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-combo-for-college-class/603/9 "2006-08-23T00:13:18Z")
na dude, i cant smell -none for s\*\*t…i wish i can caz i want to know how bad it is. ammo is a cologne and it smells good thats all.😃 ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 2:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-combo-for-college-class/603/10 "2006-08-23T02:06:11Z")
I doubt you’d be able to smell “none stank” with any of Androtics products, considering the extreme quality control Michael insists on for purity. Then again, I only have Ammunition, not [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/), or TUTH. But there’s no none scent at all with Ammunition in my experience. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 3:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-combo-for-college-class/603/11 "2006-08-23T03:30:27Z")
I can’t smell the stank of none at all…not even in PI or NPA. I can detect a sort of heaviness in the fragrance, but not the kind of stank that other people describe. Ammunition smells downright good to me. To me it smells very sweet, but when I asked a bunch of women at work to smell it, they described it as smelling more musky. Incidentally, just about all of them liked the smell, androstenone and all. ---
**Author:** ![b737pilot88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ab097/32.png) [@b737pilot88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/b737pilot88)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 3:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-combo-for-college-class/603/12 "2006-08-23T03:40:20Z")
sig how many sprays did you test out? ---
**Author:** ![nfs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nfs/32/1656_2.png) [@nfs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nfs)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 3:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-combo-for-college-class/603/13 "2006-08-23T03:48:27Z")
my gf can smell ammo but it’s not so bad according to her , compared to other none products. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 4:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-combo-for-college-class/603/14 "2006-08-23T04:18:10Z")
> [@b737pilot88](#): > > sig how many sprays did you test out? I think it was two? Theres a thread about it somewhere > [@Ammunition - Don't overlook it](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-dont-overlook-it/353): > > I’ve been really busy with finals and transitioning jobs so I’ve been using Ammunition simply for the convenience factor. Applying complicated mixes can be a hassle some times. At anyrate I wore 3 Sprays of Ammunitin + 2 Sprays EST and headed to a really high-end club with some friends from school last night. I hit it off really well with two women last night - one a friend of a friend whom I never got the chance to get her number (I’ll get it from my friend later), and a girl I had a class wi… ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 12:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-combo-for-college-class/603/15 "2006-08-23T12:00:14Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > I doubt you’d be able to smell “none stank” with any of Androtics products, considering the extreme quality control Michael insists on for purity. I don’t understand what you mean here. Unless you start dipping into (currently very expensive) chiral chemistry, androstenone _is_ indeed a smelly molecule. There’s a nearly scentless isomer that has been studied, but it’s likely inactive. Pheromones are human musks, and musks smell. Thus, in general, -none specific “stinkiness” goes up with it’s purity. (there may also be other malodors from it’s production byproducts, but these tend to pale compared to the odor of androstenone itself) I’d say that our androstenone smells none too pleasant. It’s has a _smooth_ “stinky” odor, but it’s stinky nonetheless! 🙂 I’ve smelled different androstenone batches of differing purity, and all the active, high purity ones smell very strongly. In fact, androstenone “standards”, like the one from Sigma-Aldrich (catalog #A8008), smell very strongly. In terms of consumer products, LaCroy’s also makes a great -none product, one of the best. It smells simply awful (worse than -none alone, thanks to one of it’s also “stinky” secret ingredients). After you hit the gym and do a good workout, you can smell some of nature’s best androstenone… under your arms. It stinks just like androstenone should. Let someone else smell it, too. An unsuspecting girlfriend, or someone’s little brother. 😉 It’ll overwhelm them. They’ll be hit with the odor far harder than you. We adapt to odors very quickly, including our own body odors, and externally applied colognes and pheromones. The best way for you to smell what something smells like to others, is to spray some of what you want to smell on other people. This way, you won’t oversaturate your olfactory receptors, and you’ll get a good sense of what other people are smelling when you wear something. > [@](#): > > Then again, I only have Ammunition, not Raw Power, or TUTH. But there’s no none scent at all with Ammunition in my experience. Raw Power isn’t all that pleasant to smell. Ammo has a professionally designed, full strength cologne included, and it does it’s job fairly well as a “cover scent”. It’s the cover scent that smells good. The alpha-nol and rone it in it likely make it smell even better, while [Molecule A](https://a314.com/product/molecule-a/) makes it “feel good” to sniff it. TUTH has a professional designed cover scent, as well, but it’s not cologne strength. The -none odor can poke through eventually since it’s cover blend is comparatively gentle. Again, try spraying someone _else_ with a -none product sometime. You’ll get to know the -none odor much better this way. ---
**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 1:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-combo-for-college-class/603/16 "2006-08-23T13:04:22Z")
[Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) smelled of strong -none and reflected a dark feeling to me instantly, almost a chemical smell, and it smelled as BO to females .. Having said that, it also caused instant (within 10 seconds) stunned looks and obvious positive response. Use after midnight to experience everything that -none can do. I’m going to call it “Da Bomb” ! NPA smelled nothing to me, and ‘indifferent’ to females, but shows potential for both bad smell and positive effect. Its problem is inconsistency of the 2 cent bottle, so try to use another bottle / dropper that you can get consistant dose with. TUTH has the best smell cologne wise, which lingers, and changes with time .. It starts as fresh light musk with none, then turns into stronger deep (something), say after 1.5 hrs. It seems to attract females to stand 2 feet from you. Ammo I need to trial more for effects, but it smells ‘complex’. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 1:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-combo-for-college-class/603/17 "2006-08-23T13:39:13Z")
> [@Mak](#): > > Raw Power smelled of strong -none and reflected a dark feeling to me instantly, almost a chemical smell, and it smelled as BO to females The initial chemical like smell is likely from the small amount of ethanol added, as well as the amplification of the dipropylene glycol odor (which smells sort of like a glue factory). This should die down with time. The androstenone itself should similar similar to your armpit after working out all day. > [@](#): > > .. Having said that, it also caused instant (within 10 seconds) stunned looks and obvious positive response. Use after midnight to experience everything that -none can do. Good. I’m glad it works well for you. You’re Asian in Australia, right? How long did you see these after after application, and how many hours did you get these effects for? Also, did you pick this your Raw Power with natural plant musks added, or just with plain androstenone? > [@](#): > > I’m going to call it “Da Bomb” ! You know, androstenone is actually quite “bomb” like many ways, literally, so your nickname isn’t just cute. It has substance to it. 🙂 > [@](#): > > NPA smelled nothing to me, and ‘indifferent’ to females, but shows potential for both bad smell and positive effect. Your olfactory receptor cells probably become saturated by NPA right away – your brain discounting the overload by reporting back nothing. (this is why both adolescents and seniors tend to overapply cologne/perfume – they overwhelm themselves instantly, “smell nothing”, so they put on 10 more sprays to make sure you can smell it) Put a drop of it on a buddy of yours some night when going out (and androstenone or androstadienone on yourself at all), and you should be able to smell what other people smell. > [@](#): > > TUTH has the best smell cologne wise, which lingers, and changes with time .. It starts as fresh light musk with none, then turns into stronger deep (something), say after 1.5 hrs. It seems to attract females to stand 2 feet from you. TUTH has the Neroli package, with a very simple blend of “erotic” essential oils added. How many “feet of attraction” are you getting with Raw Power vs. TUTH? You know, I think I’ll release a TUTH testers soon, but with 3 or 4 different scent packages, to see how they affect diffusion & the ultimate sillage. Smelling good is nice, but I like the spray-on products to have range. > [@](#): > > Ammo I need to trial more for effects, but it smells ‘complex’. Ammunition cologne was made by the same pheromone technology firm who did colognes such as Drakkar Noir. The real stuff, not knockoffs. They also designed the original [pheromone cologne](https://a314.com/shop/) 25 years ago, called Andron. ---
**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 2:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-combo-for-college-class/603/18 "2006-08-23T14:42:19Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > Good. I’m glad it works well for you. You’re Asian in Australia, right? > How long did you see these after after application, and how many hours did you get these effects for? > > Also, did you pick this your Raw Power with natural plant musks added, or just with plain androstenone? > > . No, I’m Caucasian Australian, none-loaded so I always treated it with moderation. Effects were 20 mins after application, lasting for around 3 hrs, maybe less. I’d love an oil-based RP that lasts 4-5 hrs, uncented, so I can reapply without the scent overpowering and deterring me and others. I think I got the plain RP, no scent, which I like more. > [@MHarris](#): > > You know, androstenone is actually quite “bomb” like many ways, literally, so your nickname isn’t just cute. It has substance to it. 🙂 > . Or I’d call it “Midnight Destroyer” .. At the end of the night of food, drinks, music, romance … applying RP will either a) Destroy my night as she runs down the street screaming murdrer away from me, or b) Destroy all her inhibitions to have her jumpin’ to my lovin’ That was too graphic, but from the handful of times I used RP, it is shaping to be that. > [@MHarris](#): > > TUTH has the Neroli package, with a very simple blend of “erotic” essential oils added. > > How many “feet of attraction” are you getting with Raw Power vs. TUTH? > > You know, I think I’ll release a TUTH testers soon, but with 3 or 4 different scent packages, to see how they affect diffusion & the ultimate sillage. Hope I’m not alone, but TUTH scent composition you have now is very good. I’d love to have it as just cologne to add pheros to it. As for ‘feet of attraction’, I did not experiment much, but RP would be less than TUTH. RP affected people 1 meter away (3-4 feet), TUTH (I use small spray, 2-3 mcg) made females aware 4 meters away (12 feet), then caused some to come closer. This is without mixing with anything else of course. BTW, is the 3-weeks-ago regular strength equal to 5 mcg ? .. I noticed you have now 2 concentrations for it at the shop. ---
**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 2:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-combo-for-college-class/603/19 "2006-08-23T14:51:14Z")
The -none’s Just realised I quite deviated from original post re college. Apologies **b737pilot88.** This should have been a separate -none post. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 3:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-combo-for-college-class/603/20 "2006-08-23T15:01:15Z")
> [@Mak](#): > > Just realised I quite deviated from original post re college. Apologies **b737pilot88.** > > This should have been a separate -none post. When you repost, Mak, I’d like to hear more on your usage of [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) 'cause me likes -none. 😛 Your age? Your dosage/mixes? Your reapplication time? Your hits (positive/negative)? Thanks! 😃 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-combo-for-college-class/603.md?page=2)