# Best mone combo to wear when you only have 15 sec to make an impression **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 27, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mone-combo-to-wear-when-you-only-have-15-sec-to-make-an-impression/58301 "2013-02-27T13:53:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2013, 3:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mone-combo-to-wear-when-you-only-have-15-sec-to-make-an-impression/58301/21 "2013-02-28T15:03:38Z")
Got a drink date. Went out to a hotel with 2.5 mcg p75 and 7 sprays IO and chatted with a 10 russian model (she’s about 4 inches taller than me 6’1") and a beauty.. Anyways she is not my dream girl who I am talking to you about but I decided what better way to test this combo than ona different girl.. We talked about her school, exams, and finals and she was very giddy the whole time.. Each of her visits to our table were about 5 min in length and she woudln’t shut up… After the third visit I said “You know all this talk is putting me in a romantic mood.. What do you say the two of us enjoy a drink at the bar to celebrate your graduation when it comes in april”.. She agreed. We flirted. After I left I said “Remember our promise now, I’ll hold you too it you know”.. She said " I’ll hold you to it too and smiled". I caressed her back and smiled and left. Now i will try the same combo and approach on my dream girl. I’ll ask the same questions as their both in 4th year univerisity and graduating. I will find a way to extend the time I talk toher and this combo makes my mind VERY alert.. I mean I could sense NO tuning out from the p75 with IO in there. One thing she didn’t keep eye contact on me the whole time.. She was giddly and looking into space? Any reason.. But she was very jolly and so was I. I’m gonna neck her… (Naughty p75 wearing bastard talking). ---
**Author:** ![phertest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ec8ea/32.png) [@phertest](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phertest)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2013, 3:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mone-combo-to-wear-when-you-only-have-15-sec-to-make-an-impression/58301/22 "2013-03-01T03:24:02Z")
dsouza, I’ve read about your posts trying to get with females half your age. I don’t know if you know this, but like I’ve said before most of these chicks just aren’t going to be interested in you. You can bomb them with pheromones all you want but that doesn’t mean they’re going to go for someone their dads age. You’re putting way too much weight into this one interaction and sound desperate. How about keep some cool about you and just be honest about it… ask her some honest questions about herself, flirt a little, ask for the date. If you do it right, she’ll show via body language whether she is or not interested in you. Or maybe bring up her bf, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2013, 5:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mone-combo-to-wear-when-you-only-have-15-sec-to-make-an-impression/58301/23 "2013-03-01T05:27:28Z")
> [@phertest](#): > > dsouza, I’ve read about your posts trying to get with females half your age. I don’t know if you know this, but like I’ve said before most of these chicks just aren’t going to be interested in you. You can bomb them with pheromones all you want but that doesn’t mean they’re going to go for someone their dads age. > > You’re putting way too much weight into this one interaction and sound desperate. How about keep some cool about you and just be honest about it… ask her some honest questions about herself, flirt a little, ask for the date. > > If you do it right, she’ll show via body language whether she is or not interested in you. Or maybe bring up her bf, etc. First half of your post may or may not be true. Chicks half my age are more often interested in me than I in them. Then again, people say I don’t really look my age but still. The latter part is absolutely true. ---
**Author:** ![Unique](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unique/32/935_2.png) [@Unique](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Unique)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2013, 5:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mone-combo-to-wear-when-you-only-have-15-sec-to-make-an-impression/58301/24 "2013-03-01T05:29:36Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Pheromones are never reacted to that quickly. > > Instant is just the name on the bottle, they are not really instant. Just like you dont really shine when you wear shine. > > Usually people need to be exposed to the signal continuously for a few minutes before they even begin to process it. Then depending on the person it can take some time to process. > > Now just because they process doesn’t mean they will react that second. That depends on what else is going on in their heads at the time. For instance when you see a hot girl your interested in for the first time I am sure you dont run directly to her that instant and react. You think about it a bit. > > Your going to have to find away to lengthen time exposure time. > > Tisha Do you have a source for your information or is this simply your opinion? Because I’ve seen pheromones take effect within a few seconds. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2013, 10:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mone-combo-to-wear-when-you-only-have-15-sec-to-make-an-impression/58301/25 "2013-03-01T10:32:16Z")
> [@phertest](#): > > dsouza, I’ve read about your posts trying to get with females half your age. I don’t know if you know this, but like I’ve said before most of these chicks just aren’t going to be interested in you. You can bomb them with pheromones all you want but that doesn’t mean they’re going to go for someone their dads age. > > You’re putting way too much weight into this one interaction and sound desperate. How about keep some cool about you and just be honest about it… ask her some honest questions about herself, flirt a little, ask for the date. > > If you do it right, she’ll show via body language whether she is or not interested in you. Or maybe bring up her bf, etc. I just got a date with a 23 year old and i’m 43.. So what’s your point? SOme women LIKE older men better.. This russian model didn’t seem to care one bit. She even knows my age 🙂 BTW I’m a professional guitar player (i.e. make a living from it now) and ALL I seem to attract is younger women.. they’re the ones who have time for youtube, going to clubs , partying etc. I also dress like a 25 year old in Guess, Parasuco, Canada Goose, and other name brand clothes. So I always get looks from the youngers ones (20-30). Quite frankly I am not interested in dating older women who are looking for commitments, marriage , or someone to support their children. I also believe p75 IO was my ticket to the date. Without it I get attraction but not enough socialization to make things happens , on a dating level, with the younger lot. p75 IO is GOLDEN. I DO agree with your approach of sounding less desparate.. that I agree with.. this is probably why I pulled the russian woman for a date and she is 10 x better looking than my dream girl. I knew her for 2 years. My dream girl I know for 9 months. Never talked beyond friendship. But I’m going to go in cool and laid back, and only talk about her school. And if the opportunity comes up that she is really into the conversation and makes room for me to stick around I’ll ask her out.. if the opportunity doesn’t come I’ll continue to talk to her on other occasions until it does. Sometimes with the 10’s you really have to be a challenge and not go for the kill instantly. Like I said before I plan on dating younger women and in my post said I was fantastizing about kissing them. Getting sex would be even a bigger challenge.. But like in all things learning how to play the game with hot women is the ticket. Practice is everything, and I’m just getting back into the game after being ina study relationship for years.. No rush. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2013, 11:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mone-combo-to-wear-when-you-only-have-15-sec-to-make-an-impression/58301/26 "2013-03-01T11:14:03Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Maybe wait till there is a few people ahead of you so you can linger near the podium a little. She will begin to inhale some then and when its your turn to walk to the table she will get it stronger. > > Just gotta figure some way to linger and delay a little. > > Tisha Bingo this describes why when I go at busy times like 7 pm and there’s a line up and i’m close to her the mones get a chance to work. I will go later to extend the impact! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2013, 1:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mone-combo-to-wear-when-you-only-have-15-sec-to-make-an-impression/58301/27 "2013-03-01T13:49:20Z")
> [@Unique](#): > > Do you have a source for your information or is this simply your opinion? > > Because I’ve seen pheromones take effect within a few seconds. I don’t have a specific study pertaining to pheromone times however I have read plenty on the olfactory system and how it works at the Sense of Smell Institute that comfirms this. They are on line so you can google them. Lots of great info there. A person can smell a scent instantly and process the scent from memory. Pheromones dont work by memory. With pheromones you need a chemical reaction to occur. Once that occurs it sends a signal in the brain. That can happen in seconds however because its triggering an emotional response the time to process that emotion (decide what it means to you and what its source is) and then react to it varies for some people. Its not the chemical reaction that takes a few minutes its how we process our emotions that makes the time vary and there are hundreds of studies on that. It can take even longer for those who know us and have preconceived notions. So if this hostess is familar with him she will need more exposure then 15 seconds can allow especially because her mind is busy with work issues. Now if your in a club or a sexually charged environment people may respond a lot quicker simply because that is where their minds are at that point anyway. There are so many different variables that come into play. Its also been my personal experience, as well as that of many of the people who have tested for me that a majority of responses begin within a few minutes of being around the target. Most hard core long term users know this. Now sillage is another matter to consider but I wont go into that. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2013, 6:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mone-combo-to-wear-when-you-only-have-15-sec-to-make-an-impression/58301/28 "2013-03-02T06:41:50Z")
I still say that the mones often hit within seconds. Maybe not within 15 but still under 45 or so. They absolutely continue to do more after that but i.e the DIHL phenomenon always comes rapidly in my case, if it comes at all. It doesn’t occur often but when it does it certainly is just moments after the encounter. Never has a woman suddenly gone silent with widened eyes and a dropped jaw several minutes into the conversation. No, that happens right after “Hello”, “Excuse me” or “A beer, please”. If it is to happen. It’s not a very frequent thing. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2013, 8:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mone-combo-to-wear-when-you-only-have-15-sec-to-make-an-impression/58301/29 "2013-03-02T08:02:27Z")
> [@Misein](#): > > I still say that the mones often hit within seconds. Maybe not within 15 but still under 45 or so. They absolutely continue to do more after that but i.e the DIHL phenomenon always comes rapidly in my case, if it comes at all. It doesn’t occur often but when it does it certainly is just moments after the encounter. > Never has a woman suddenly gone silent with widened eyes and a dropped jaw several minutes into the conversation. No, that happens right after “Hello”, “Excuse me” or “A beer, please”. If it is to happen. It’s not a very frequent thing. Agreed. DIHL hits fast… I get it in seconds. Sometimes under 2-3 seconds. ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2013, 10:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mone-combo-to-wear-when-you-only-have-15-sec-to-make-an-impression/58301/31 "2013-03-02T10:02:01Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > Agreed. DIHL hits fast… I get it in seconds. Sometimes under 2-3 seconds. DIHL normally occurs when your target is having trouble processing such a strong signal its not necessarily a sign of attraction. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2013, 10:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mone-combo-to-wear-when-you-only-have-15-sec-to-make-an-impression/58301/32 "2013-03-02T10:03:29Z")
Yes, I also find that certain pheros can hit very fast - However they are mostly not the ones dsouza is going to find most useful in this situation and they are also best in uninhibited situations like clubs and the like. Otherwise they most often lead to embarrasment/avoidance from the subject. In fact, away from clubs, these sudden/immediate hits, whilst good at telling you what pheros/mixes are working for you, are often not good for taking things any further and the number of times I’ve been able to get anything more from them are very few indeed. Its the ones that build over a slighty longer timescale that have always worked best for me but not so long that they forget the initial kick from the mix of course. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2013, 1:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mone-combo-to-wear-when-you-only-have-15-sec-to-make-an-impression/58301/33 "2013-03-02T13:34:24Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Yes, I also find that certain pheros can hit very fast - However they are mostly not the ones dsouza is going to find most useful in this situation and they are also best in uninhibited situations like clubs and the like. > > In fact, away from clubs, these sudden/immediate hits, whilst good at telling you what pheros/mixes are working for you, are often not good for taking things any further and the number of times I’ve been able to get anything more from them are very few indeed. > > Its the ones that build over a slighty longer timescale that have always worked best for me but not so long that they forget the initial kick from the mix of course. Exactly which is why I find p75 IO so amazing.. It got no none to intimidate, and lots of socialization without the IH seriousness. The p75 also acts as a masculine signal. This combo has got me a lot of talk and then the date close.. I don’t even bother number closing until i have a date close. I find with number closing first it gives women too much of a chance to flake. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2013, 2:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mone-combo-to-wear-when-you-only-have-15-sec-to-make-an-impression/58301/34 "2013-03-02T14:12:56Z")
> [@](#): > > DIHL normally occurs when your target is having trouble processing such a strong signal its not necessarily a sign of attraction. Thank you Ghost, perfect explanation of what I was trying to convey. DIHL is not an attraction hit its a unprocessed hit. This is exactly what I meant above. The signal went through but the mind has not processed it and dosnt know what to do with it. Either they let the feeling go especially if they are busy or they go blank. However if the signal keeps coming over time they begin to pay attention to the feeling more. Process it. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2013, 2:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mone-combo-to-wear-when-you-only-have-15-sec-to-make-an-impression/58301/35 "2013-03-02T14:35:21Z")
> [@THE\_GHOST](#): > > DIHL normally occurs when your target is having trouble processing such a strong signal its not necessarily a sign of attraction. I never said it was a sign of attraction. ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2013, 2:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mone-combo-to-wear-when-you-only-have-15-sec-to-make-an-impression/58301/36 "2013-03-02T14:37:09Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Thank you Ghost, perfect explanation of what I was trying to convey. > > DIHL is not an attraction hit its a unprocessed hit. This is exactly what I meant above. The signal went through but the mind has not processed it and dosnt know what to do with it. Either they let the feeling go especially if they are busy or they go blank. However if the signal keeps coming over time they begin to pay attention to the feeling more. Process it. > > Tisha And how does this mean that the mones need minutes to start doing their work? ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2013, 2:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mone-combo-to-wear-when-you-only-have-15-sec-to-make-an-impression/58301/37 "2013-03-02T14:51:06Z")
I guess I misunderstood the whole thing. I mean that the mones mostly will hit rapidly. Still they won’t have a person thinking about you the whole damn day if you only saw her for a few seconds. But if you see her for a few seconds and then see her again after a couple of hours, the first few seconds may have done something. Even better, if you after those few seconds remain somewhere in the vicinity you’ll be good even if the target isn’t within range all the time. A few seconds here and there will be enough. Maybe that was what everybody’s been saying all the time. English isn’t even my second language. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2013, 4:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mone-combo-to-wear-when-you-only-have-15-sec-to-make-an-impression/58301/38 "2013-03-02T16:44:10Z")
> [@Misein](#): > > I never said it was a sign of attraction. I never said you did. ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 3:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mone-combo-to-wear-when-you-only-have-15-sec-to-make-an-impression/58301/39 "2013-03-03T03:43:38Z")
> [@THE\_GHOST](#): > > I never said you did. That is true. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mone-combo-to-wear-when-you-only-have-15-sec-to-make-an-impression/58301.md?page=1)