# Best Mones for being in the Military **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 11, 2014, 4:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-being-in-the-military/60846 "2014-01-11T16:27:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![hletchworth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/71c47a/32.png) [@hletchworth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hletchworth)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 4:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-being-in-the-military/60846/1 "2014-01-11T16:27:19Z")
Just a little background; I am about to be 20 (male) and in the US Navy. Currently I am deployed on an aircraft carrier supporting Operation Enduring Freedom. I work in supply and have a desk job. In a way my job is the hub of inputting items that we receive into out computer data base, meaning at some point in the day all the people I work with, 35-45 people, end up coming to me for a number of reasons. I am not new to using mones, but nowhere consider myself having any skills with them. I like to think of myself of a fun person to be around, pretty much happy all the time. It has been so long since I’ve honestly looked at my mone collection to know what I have owned/ still have. I do know that I have IS left, along with one or two other on the go bottles that I will have to check out. IS is hand down my favorite over anything I’ve tried, the vibe that I put off along with the people around me is great. The whole office lightens up, but I don’t wear it often. When I do wear it, its pretty much for the self feelings, it just brings me back down to earth and calms me down. I am looking for some very social, sorta alpha but not over powering. Then I need something when we go out in ports that completely turns heads and just really turns up the party. I know IS will be part of my purchase no matter what, it should fill the air of the whole world for what I care about. Thanks for any help, I will get on as much as I can to check for updates! ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 9:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-being-in-the-military/60846/2 "2014-01-11T21:56:44Z")
Hey! Navy guy here too! What’s your rate? Which CVN are you on? Chances are good I know some of the LT’s on board… IS is a great product, obviously, for lightening the mood but it doesn’t do much in the way of projecting any “value”. For that, and based on your age, I’d suggest looking into Instant Gentlemen. It’s not as edgy as a314 and you won’t seem like you’re taking yourself too seriously. The other thing I worry about with a314 is not really being able to “fill” the roll of that Status at only 20yrs old. That’s up to you to decide though whether your personality could pull it off… Either way, both products are perfect for the work environment and will definitely help support others’ perception of you during interactions. For port calls I would suggest AMMO. It’s a social/sexy mix that works very well solo, and thus easy to carry around just One bottle to freshen up while you’re out on liberty. TUTH for if things get hot n’ heavy w/ the locals. mx297 for high energy night club type settings. Take it easy, stay safe out there. ---
**Author:** ![fishdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4bbf92/32.png) [@fishdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishdude)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 11:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-being-in-the-military/60846/3 "2014-01-11T23:16:59Z")
A314, no need to say more. Use just one drop. Will last all day and not be to overbearing. Add your shine to it and you will notice the friendliness and attractiveness it adds without taking away the powers of A314. FD ---
**Author:** ![hletchworth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/71c47a/32.png) [@hletchworth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hletchworth)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 10:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-being-in-the-military/60846/4 "2014-01-12T10:21:51Z")
> [@sharkndragon](#): > > Hey! Navy guy here too! What’s your rate? Which CVN are you on? Chances are good I know some of the LT’s on board… > > IS is a great product, obviously, for lightening the mood but it doesn’t do much in the way of projecting any “value”. For that, and based on your age, I’d suggest looking into Instant Gentlemen. It’s not as edgy as a314 and you won’t seem like you’re taking yourself too seriously. The other thing I worry about with a314 is not really being able to “fill” the roll of that Status at only 20yrs old. That’s up to you to decide though whether your personality could pull it off… > > Either way, both products are perfect for the work environment and will definitely help support others’ perception of you during interactions. > > For port calls I would suggest AMMO. It’s a social/sexy mix that works very well solo, and thus easy to carry around just One bottle to freshen up while you’re out on liberty. TUTH for if things get hot n’ heavy w/ the locals. mx297 for high energy night club type settings. > > Take it easy, stay safe out there. I’m an LS on 75. I agree on the IS not really adding any value, I have never thought of it that way, but I definitely agree. I might try a to-go IG; I had A314a and it worked pretty well for me, so I think I might go for a a314 bottle. I’d say most of the time I would be able to pull it off. I checked my bag and probably have 1-2 spays of mx297 left, so next port I’m going to let it rip. Which as you know it really takes nothing for everyone to have a crazy time in port. I wish the kit they have will all the different mones was customizeable so you could upsize the bottle. ---
**Author:** ![Casanova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/casanova/32/621_2.png) [@Casanova](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Casanova)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 2:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-being-in-the-military/60846/5 "2014-01-12T14:00:56Z")
Why not give Instent Gentleman a try?🆒It’s alpha, dependable but not bossy - just solid and nice male.Since you are in the millitary there are ranks and it will be worse to seem too high rank without really having the rank of an admiral for instace.So in my opinion you should project not the bossy vibe but the solid , reliable male vibe.Like saying - “I’m here, I do my service and you can rely on me always!” - and for that vibe I think ( only my opinion ) IG is perfect for the task.😉 Do not underestimate IG.It’s not bossy alpha male, but sertainly is an alpha male pheromone.Very laidback experienced seadog type pheromone.With a314 some males feel thretened and seem to react with some jelousy and agression but IG seems to gets more respect from other males than competition reaction. Wish you luck and hope you find the right [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) for you.😉 ---
**Author:** ![hletchworth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/71c47a/32.png) [@hletchworth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hletchworth)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 2:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-being-in-the-military/60846/6 "2014-01-12T14:04:00Z")
That makes IG look alot more appealing to me then before. Pretty much what I’m looking for. I want to be alpha enough to not make people feel I’m trying to walk on top of them. As far as that goes, should I stay with 1x or go ahead and get 2x? ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 3:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-being-in-the-military/60846/7 "2014-01-12T15:22:59Z")
Stick with 1X strength- you’re still young. Also easier to find your sweetspot this way. ---
**Author:** ![Casanova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/casanova/32/621_2.png) [@Casanova](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Casanova)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-being-in-the-military/60846/8 "2014-01-13T03:07:01Z")
Yeah = 1x strenght is good enough.IG is good around women too.Especially after their 40’s.Got a free physical check and expensive examination from a female doctor in her 50’s:p.It seemed that when I was using IG when I went to the clinic couple of times for examinations she was melting like butter in my presence without hiiting on me.When I had to be examined and those examination were expensive and I didn’t have all the money at that moment she said someting like " oh , sweet boy, that’s so unfortunate those exams can wait but you know what - I’ll talk to the other doctors and you’ll be examined for free.Don’t worry - just wait a minute".In my country free examinations sounds like a bad joke, but well - it worked for me.This was the most blatant hit I got from IG.😉 ---
**Author:** ![lwatkins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lwatkins/32/472_2.png) [@lwatkins](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lwatkins)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-being-in-the-military/60846/9 "2014-01-13T15:18:15Z")
you mention you want something sorta alpha. P75 has been reported to put out a potent masculine signature which works especially well with the type of girl who goes for “a man in uniform”, and is intimidating to people “who pick fights for fun”, I have some on order to test. Many have reported in particular it works wonders with Latinas all on it’s own. those feisty ones! Others have reported attracting all the blonds when layering P75 2.5mcg with Ammo and Shine. Ammo plus P75 12.5 mcg was described as “you can’t believe your eyes”. Even 2.5mcg is fairly strong -possibly an optimal dose, and you can wear it alone to positive effect. You might consider getting some and diluting it to less than 1mcg or so for daily use, it’s reported to work quite well even at 1/2 a mcg. At 5mcg it is very strong, and any higher seems to come off sinister, like the “iron hand of Stalin” to other men, I interpreted the comments to mean it cages them with some kind of stockholm syndrome. Upsides - it has many benefits of none, but lacks, actually it blocks the enone rage. “What it is, basically, is the perfect NONE buffer.” It lasts a long time too. "75 seems to be the only thing that truly suppresses androstenone rage in men. Higher NONE will allow the maximum arousal potential for women, who can tolerate seemingly endless amounts of 75–men cannot. 75 will cage the rage, which is all that is required. " … " Gentleman said: “NONE is the anti-friendzone.” monesmadedoit says, “75 makes NONE possible.” Some have commented that enone and P75 can be used in a 1:1 ratio, so each spray of TUTH or Ammo can be buffered by one spray of 2.5mcg P75. For evenings, I may try P75 at 15mcg with a shot of IJ (15mcg per spray - Predominantly enone) once I get the money for some - take the female arousal level of the jerk, and give him the social proof of Stalin… then I suggest, send that in a shiny happy direction… TAA/Shine. And enough TAC buffer for everyone to chilax. A mix that I will try this next few weeks is 2x TUTH, with P75 at 5mcg / 1x spray to buffer the none. And P96 to add a social / romantic bonding aspect when it’s needed. Will use 1-2 drops A314 to add some Rone. Wish I still had IO left, but I’m not too concerned about scaring off the men. Check my journal in a week or two, I will soon post my own results. M&M tried this one and confirmed it was good: (Tis the reason why he’s been begging for P96 for a year and a half now) P75:P96:RONE:IO: 30 mcgs of P75 (ALL to the neck) 40 mcgs of P96 (cause I only had it in 20 mcg per spray bottle) inside of forearms 15 mcg of -Androsterone (cause I only had it in 15 mcg per spray) To the throat 4 sprays of regular [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) from a TO-GO bottle: 2 to back of neck, 2 shared by the top of hands ---
**Author:** ![hletchworth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/71c47a/32.png) [@hletchworth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hletchworth)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-being-in-the-military/60846/10 "2014-01-13T17:05:18Z")
Very good info!! I will definitely read into [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/). I wonder how it will work since every guy here is in uniform, wonder if it is enough to set me two steps ahead. Right now I’m looking at a bottle of IS, to-go IG and to-go mx297. A bottle of A314 is so temping. I dont really need anything to make other males aggressive though, people are on edge enough here and get power happy with rank. Needless to say I can’t stand when someone tries to pull something over on me. ---
**Author:** ![lwatkins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lwatkins/32/472_2.png) [@lwatkins](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lwatkins)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-being-in-the-military/60846/11 "2014-01-13T17:25:59Z")
I have been using A314 a little while now and it certainly gives you some power and respect. The effects seem to compound over time with repeated exposure. Your self effects are a sense of being smooth, solid, like a locomotive on rails. I see far less aggression towards me, and people apologize to me profusely, far more than I’m used to. You will get apologies from people who otherwise never would do so. It can be a bit too heavy and serious for fun social situations. It has 11 or 12 molecules in it. It lasts all day and into the next - very long trail of effects. It is a slow hit and the oil does not broadcast the same way, compared to the spray which jumps right off you. Use too much and it’s like a funeral. For some people one drop might do it - but I like 2-3 when I’m getting things done. P75 has been described as A314 light - a lighter feeling that is more buddy buddy with the guys. “bro in a bottle”. it has been described as militaristic, the general, the bro that bros depend on, etc.. If you argue with them they will come away with respect for you, you will feel a bit cocky. There just seems no upper limit with ladies you have the social proof to be a frat boy. With higher amounts people may seem intimidated, but when you talk to them they will want to be your friend, they might think your face looks a bit rough / frowny - Remember just smile! Open them! You’re carrying social proof. I am basing this on the reports of others. Some people didn’t like the [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) and P75 combo… others did. If you combine them let us know how it works out for you. > [@hletchworth](#): > > Very good info!! I will definitely read into P75. I wonder how it will work since every guy here is in uniform, wonder if it is enough to set me two steps ahead. > > Right now I’m looking at a bottle of IS, to-go IG and to-go mx297. A bottle of A314 is so temping. I dont really need anything to make other males aggressive though, people are on edge enough here and get power happy with rank. Needless to say I can’t stand when someone tries to pull something over on me. ---
**Author:** ![hletchworth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/71c47a/32.png) [@hletchworth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hletchworth)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 5:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-being-in-the-military/60846/12 "2014-01-13T17:47:12Z")
Ah, I hate how I want everything!! Too tough of a choice, I’m really leaning to A314 just because it is an oil and I want to see how that works compared to a spray along with it being the flagship product. As far as being lighter with the guys I’m not really looking for that in the workplace. I have worked my way into a really important job that is usually done by someone 3 pay grades higher then me, so the one struggle I have is with people higher ranking trying to walk over me, in the end it doesn’t work cause I hate when people do that. But if A314 could make me look/feel like I know what I’m doing then that would definitely be a plus. In the end I’m really looking more of a in the office combo, being that we work 12 on 12 off and live on the ship. If they made IS in oil it would be a done deal, I wouldn’t think twice about buying it! ---
**Author:** ![lwatkins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lwatkins/32/472_2.png) [@lwatkins](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lwatkins)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 6:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-being-in-the-military/60846/13 "2014-01-13T18:10:51Z")
If I were you I’d start with the oil, on drop behind each ear max, don’t exceed 3 drops total, rub it in down arond sides of your neck. Its going to work great in enclosed environments and close quarters with rank-and-file minded people. Make sure to scrub your applications points clean once a day to avoid buildup. [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) at very low dose could be a nice kicker to add to that. 2.5 mcg Shine actually lowers your status I think, it’s a bit juvenile, you might want to save that for dealing with certain cranky people when they get in a bad mood and you want to lift them, when you want to be the kid that brings cheer and you aren’t focused on building rank status. IO is great just to get people talking. I swear people never shut up when I wear this. IH on the other hand, great if you want people to start sharing all their deep dark secrets they don’t usually tell people, good for building deep rapport… you could just get some beta Nol, people will start telling you things truth-serum-like, and have no clue why they told you… only problem is you may do the same thing. > [@hletchworth](#): > > Ah, I hate how I want everything!! Too tough of a choice, I’m really leaning to A314 just because it is an oil and I want to see how that works compared to a spray along with it being the flagship product. > > As far as being lighter with the guys I’m not really looking for that in the workplace. I have worked my way into a really important job that is usually done by someone 3 pay grades higher then me, so the one struggle I have is with people higher ranking trying to walk over me, in the end it doesn’t work cause I hate when people do that. But if A314 could make me look/feel like I know what I’m doing then that would definitely be a plus. > > In the end I’m really looking more of a in the office combo, being that we work 12 on 12 off and live on the ship. If they made IS in oil it would be a done deal, I wouldn’t think twice about buying it! ---
**Author:** ![hletchworth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/71c47a/32.png) [@hletchworth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hletchworth)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 6:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-being-in-the-military/60846/14 "2014-01-13T18:48:54Z")
Okay, so definitely going to get 314 oil. Sad to hear that IS can actually lower status. But that sorta makes since, you dont see people of high status running around all happy all the time. Where does that put me with IG? Would 314 be good enough to not get IG? I hadn’t really thought about IO or IH, both could be extremely fun. I think IO would be the better of the two just because of our work environment everyone is always on the go, so maybe that could break some barriers down. ---
**Author:** ![Casanova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/casanova/32/621_2.png) [@Casanova](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Casanova)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 3:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-being-in-the-military/60846/15 "2014-01-14T03:11:20Z")
For me a314 is good product but sometimes I get the gost effect -people seem not daring to interact with me, and when I talk to people they answer short and then act like I’m a ghost again.For some highranking people like one of my university professors it worked the other way.We were on a field trip and most of the time he was talking only to me 😃.I even gave some a314 to a friend of mine to put on as I wanted to see the results from exposed people’s point of view.My friends is really a nice guy, but when he used a314 he seemed somehow scarry and projected autority.That explains why a314 sometimes gives you the ghost effect ( people dare not to disturb the boss for small matters ) but is deffinately good for status and having it in one’s [pheromone](https://a314.com/) arsenal is a must. About IG - well if you want to try it - why not get a ToGo version - just to see what works best in your environment. 😉 As for IO and IH - if you want people really to talk to you - get them both and use them togehter 50/50% ratio on the same spot.You will get the same effect of one of my favourite products which was discontinued from production - Come talk to me 2.But beware- is’a powerful stuff and people seem not willing to stoop talking to you, which, unless your job is in sales, it may be a little problem because people may loose your time chitchatting.Although IO/IH is a great , really great icebreaker combo and is invaluable for social settings and for occasions when you want to be percieved as approachable and social person. Hope this gives you some answers.😉 ---
**Author:** ![lwatkins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lwatkins/32/472_2.png) [@lwatkins](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lwatkins)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 12:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-being-in-the-military/60846/16 "2014-01-14T12:55:52Z")
IG can also be a sexual to some women - the type of women who select more for status, and for men it will be more buddy-buddy. It is smoothly masculine, brings comfort / safety, and is non-threatening. Some women will respond to the rone in this better than the enone in ammo and TUTH… enone is an aggressive vibe. IG works well early in the day and other situations (work, formal occasions) where enone might be inappropriate. IG is a lighter and more approachable product than the intimidating A314. When people are intimidated, you can overcome that by talking to them and they will be quite pleased that you took time to notice them, they are just respecting your space. IO is my favorite so far, if I have it around I will use it all up. When I have it on, 2-3 sprays, I am overwhelmed by the need to walk around talking to people, and there nobody who won’t stop to chitchat with me for a while… now keep in mind I score high for extroversion anyway - IO just puts me over the edge where I’m knocking on everyone’s door. I suggest putting it on your cuffs, keep your arm out and gesture when your talking in front of people, so it will affect them at least as much as you. A lot of it is BS talk about nothing in particular, not deep conversation, just fun. 4-6 sprays gets into awe-inspiring territory and probably some serious motor-mouth talking. IH goes much deeper to the heart of how people think and feel, but I haven’t used it personally. Keep in mind that the alpha and beta -nol in IO, IH does light up the part of the brain involved in mating for women, and IH in particular will give you fallout with some women long-run as they begin to feel that deep i-can-tell-him-anything type of romantic connection - and as she develops those feelings, it will help her express those to you.