# Best 'mones for selling an idea to the big boss

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 12, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-selling-an-idea-to-the-big-boss/29830 "2009-06-12T15:46:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-selling-an-idea-to-the-big-boss/29830/1 "2009-06-12T15:46:20Z")

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What’s the best combo 'mones for selling an idea to the big boss? Also, the big boss is someone I know but I’ve recently transferred to his area - basically, we know each other but have had limited contact and have never met 1 on 1.

I am considering

**A314** - 2 drops on neck/jaw line  
**[Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)** double strength - 2 sprays on wrists  
**Liquid Trust** (yes I know that it’s not a mone) - 6 sprays on shirt immediately before the meeting

How would this combo work? Anyone ever try it or a similar one?

My primary goal is PERSUASION - the act of persuading (or attempting to persuade); communication intended to induce \*\*belief.

At the end of meeting, I want his GO / NO GO decision to be: “GO! AND I will give you all the support you need!”

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 4:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-selling-an-idea-to-the-big-boss/29830/2 "2009-06-12T16:12:23Z")

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IDK about the liquid trust, no experience there. Since you say you wish to induce belief, consider that IH may be a coin toss here. Heads it makes you look honest and helps rapport, tails it brings out his honest objections. If you choose to include it, be extra prepared for his candor.

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**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-selling-an-idea-to-the-big-boss/29830/3 "2009-06-12T16:55:09Z")

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Renny, that’s a great point. Thanks for your prompt response…

You’re right to look out for his honest objections - but at the same time, those objections are probably the most important areas to address. Without IH, the boss may not be completely opened about the objections and may end up just saying no and I would not understand how or why. Instead, I could address the objections up front OR at least come back to him at a later time, even more prepared to answer those objections.

On the positive side, if IH will help me look honest and build rapport - that is obviously very important in any kind of sale.

Here are effects I’m looking to get from each 'mone

A314 - “TELL ME WHAT DO and I’ll DO IT”  
IH - A deep and intense feeling in my boss that what I’m saying very important  
LT - same as IH but from I’ve read (of the people who like it) say that LT has even stronger yet short-lived effects.

Ever try the LT and IH combo?

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-selling-an-idea-to-the-big-boss/29830/4 "2009-06-12T17:23:23Z")

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Being prepared for ALL possible effects is what matters. Like I say I have no experience with LT, but I have used the A314 IH combo a lot as a retailer and it seems that just as often as I get “Yes that’s what I want.” I also get “You know, you’re right, that’s what I really want, but I can’t afford it.”

As long as you realize this you are golden. Best of luck!

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**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-selling-an-idea-to-the-big-boss/29830/5 "2009-06-12T17:25:37Z")

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Very true.. On the other hand, it could be that my boss will just agree with me. Since it truly is a good idea. In this case, do you think IH will probably create even stronger feelings in him for this idea?

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**Author:** ![Bonecrkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bonecrkr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bonecrkr)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-selling-an-idea-to-the-big-boss/29830/6 "2009-06-12T17:28:41Z")

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I have a bit of experience with Liquid Trust. It’s very useful for getting compliance out of a person and getting them to trust you judgement. Effect only lasts about an hour though, so apply just before your meeting.

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**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 5:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-selling-an-idea-to-the-big-boss/29830/7 "2009-06-12T17:30:36Z")

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> [@Bonecrkr](#):
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> I have a bit of experience with Liquid Trust. It’s very useful for getting compliance out of a person and getting them to trust you judgement. Effect only lasts about an hour though, so apply just before your meeting.

And how about the combo LT and IH? I can’t find anyone on a search here who has tried both with A314.

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-selling-an-idea-to-the-big-boss/29830/8 "2009-06-12T17:37:09Z")

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I think it’s a good combination for your purpose, I would wear it. I just wanted to make sure you realized that any [pheromone](https://a314.com/) can have effects beyond what one is counting on.

One example that was just brought to my mind this morning was a very experienced member here who found that wearing A314 to job interviews was making him seem over qualified. LOL. That doesn’t mean A314 isn’t great for job interviews.

You’ll do great!

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**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-selling-an-idea-to-the-big-boss/29830/9 "2009-06-12T17:40:22Z")

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renny - Thanks for the boost of confidence! I am confident in the idea I want to sell. With the 'mones I’ll have that extra 20% to be supercharged when selling it 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bonecrkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bonecrkr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bonecrkr)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-selling-an-idea-to-the-big-boss/29830/10 "2009-06-12T18:05:17Z")

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Just used it by itself for that purpose.

> [@giants52000](#):
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> And how about the combo LT and IH? I can’t find anyone on a search here who has tried both with A314.

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**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-selling-an-idea-to-the-big-boss/29830/11 "2009-06-12T18:13:46Z")

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> [@Bonecrkr](#):
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> Just used it by itself for that purpose.

Bonecrkr - I’m not sure I understand what you mean here. Could you elaborate?  
Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Bonecrkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bonecrkr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bonecrkr)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-mones-for-selling-an-idea-to-the-big-boss/29830/12 "2009-06-12T20:14:09Z")

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I’ve used Liquid Trust several times in various situations where I need a person to trust my judgement and go along with what I suggest, when they weren’t inclined to do so and significant resistance was involved. So far, it’s worked every single time. However, I have only used it on its own and haven’t tested it with A314 and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/).

I own both of those products and neither has the exact effect that Liquid Trust has. A314 is useful for getting people to respect you. If you buck heads with someone, it can help you come out on top. Instant Honesty gets people to open up to you and can help deepen a relationship you are developing with a person. Liquid Trust gets you compliance. Not compliance as in forcing someone to do what you want. Compliance of the type where they trust your judgement and intentions. It’s very useful for those situations.

I have no idea how these three interact with each other.

> [@giants52000](#):
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> Bonecrkr - I’m not sure I understand what you mean here. Could you elaborate?  
> Thanks!
