# Best none product for a cougar hunting mix? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 27, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-none-product-for-a-cougar-hunting-mix/37336 "2010-03-27T19:22:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-none-product-for-a-cougar-hunting-mix/37336/1 "2010-03-27T19:22:45Z")
Seems that more mature women tend to respond better to none than younger women do. So what product would be the best for attracting an older woman? [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/)-single spray TuTH-multiple sprays or Ammo 2X multiple sprays. If choosing Ammo or TuTH how many sprays would you advise since from what I can tell it would take quite a few shots to equal the none content of IJ. But each product has cofactors to consider. Would the sexual steering molecules of TuTH work better than the Jerk Vibe?, or would the more well rounded Ammo with equal doses of rone and nols work better for balance? ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-none-product-for-a-cougar-hunting-mix/37336/2 "2010-03-27T19:41:19Z")
You don’t have to limit yourself to one spray of IJ or any “certain” amount of -none because there really isn’t one certain amount of -none one can handle since we’re all different and thanks to the art of buffering with socials you can wear high amounts of -none without risking OD the way you would if you weren’t wearing any socials to buffer at all. All it takes is for you to know just how much -none you can handle without socials, then by trial and error/testing you will then soon be able to see just how much -none you can get away with socials. I tend to highly believe that socials gives you a sky is the limit approach when it comes to -none, all it takes is to really get a handle on just how well a certain female will react to a certain amount of -none since all females will react different to different amounts of -none buffered or unbuffered. ---
**Author:** ![Marko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dbc845/32.png) [@Marko](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marko)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 9:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-none-product-for-a-cougar-hunting-mix/37336/3 "2010-03-27T21:08:00Z")
thread of the week. All the experts need to weigh in on this one. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 2:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-none-product-for-a-cougar-hunting-mix/37336/4 "2010-03-28T14:03:59Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > Seems that more mature women tend to respond better to none than younger women do. So what product would be the best for attracting an older woman? > Instant Jerk-single spray > TuTH-multiple sprays > or Ammo 2X multiple sprays. > If choosing Ammo or TuTH how many sprays would you advise since from what I can tell it would take quite a few shots to equal the none content of IJ. But each product has cofactors to consider. Would the sexual steering molecules of TuTH work better than the Jerk Vibe?, or would the more well rounded Ammo with equal doses of rone and nols work better for balance? Hi Radman I keep ending up in your posts. I am not stalking you I swear LOL 😛 Just wanted to add my 2 cents here since I am around your age 🆒 and I have been exposed to all these products on men. AMMO gives a slow attractive burn. It creates more interest as well as mild arousal. Its sort of titillating. Better for a long term interest then when your seeing each other use TUTH to create some excitement. TUTH is hot, very arousing, its more carnal. When a “cougar” gets hit with that vibe we get horny and are more likely to act on it since most cougars are more sexually confident and experienced. IJ is arousing, it has sort of a bad boy vibe to it but cougars are not impressed with social proofing or bad boys. We are more apt to subconsciously recognize the copulins and move on. I would go with TUTH combined with your favorite social for pull. Your over 30 so as long as you buffer it you can get away with wearing it in more environmental then the younger guys. I would still suggest AMMO for work only because of the zero tolerance policies some companies have in place. You may be the perfect gentlemen but if your giving off a highly sexual vibe there, there is always some prude ass women who will start up. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 2:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-none-product-for-a-cougar-hunting-mix/37336/5 "2010-03-28T14:33:56Z")
COUGARS vary from different age groups and mindsets. What age are you cougarizing, Rad? I’ve seen heads almost snap off with 1 shot of IJ (cops based) to the chest/neck area, and threes sprays of AMMO — one to both sides of the neck, and one shared by the top of my hands, on SEVERAL occasions. I’ve done a shot of TUTH to each side of neck, and covered the spots with a shot of AMMO, and a shot of AMMO shared by the top of the hands, too, and seen hits from younger and older. It all depends on the snotter (nose) of the target and not really their age, I tell’ya! 😉 Still … AS EVERYBODY KNOWS … you’re going to have to test it. Apply what you come up with, go hang out at your neighbor hood WalMart or book store, and jot down your findings. IF what they say about a woman being more receptive during her cycle is true, you’re just gonna have to figure out your target’s schedule. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 3:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-none-product-for-a-cougar-hunting-mix/37336/6 "2010-03-28T15:12:17Z")
Steve’s couger mix of course 🙂 mx330… I believe it’s high none and anol. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 3:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-none-product-for-a-cougar-hunting-mix/37336/7 "2010-03-28T15:53:09Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > COUGARS vary from different age groups and mindsets. What age are you cougarizing, Rad? Well I was thinking just in general, but there is a particular female, about 45, hispanic, very much into fitness (I know 20 year olds that would kill to have a bod like hers). Already radiates a very smoldering sexuality, basically puts out a vibe that lives up to both the hot blooded latin and sex crazed cougar stereotypes at the same time. So I’m figuring based on the vibe I get from her that she’d respond well to a heavy none mix. So much so that I imagine I could OD and ghost myself to the world and she’d still respond quite favorably to it. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-none-product-for-a-cougar-hunting-mix/37336/8 "2010-03-28T16:12:47Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > Well I was thinking just in general, but there is a particular female, about 45, hispanic, very much into fitness (I know 20 year olds that would kill to have a bod like hers). Already radiates a very smoldering sexuality, basically puts out a vibe that lives up to both the hot blooded latin and sex crazed cougar stereotypes at the same time. So I’m figuring based on the vibe I get from her that she’d respond well to a heavy none mix. So much so that I imagine I could OD and ghost myself to the world and she’d still respond quite favorably to it. AE has worked wonders on Hispanics, so I’d try that mix of 2 TUTH + 2-3 AMMO on her. I knew a young Latin doll while I was in school. She was sitting on a stool as I walked up to speak to someone else. I spoke to her first, then spoke to the other person. She had put her head down on the desk while I was talking to the other person. As I got ready to leave, I said good bye to her. She lift her head, and her face was flushed apple red. Good or bad … she felt that mix. Same mix … I walked past a table full of ladies to go the bar. As I walked back past, the Spanish lady out of the group called me over. I walked over to her, she asked if I was with anyone, and if I’d dance with her. We’re dancing … and I always copy the ladies moves, I turned my butt to her. She’s grinding on my butt, and all of a sudden … I feel a hand on my poker!!! I push her hand away, turn around, and say, **“You are so bad!!”** She says, **“You ain’t seen nothing yet!”** We finished dancing, I walked her back to her table, and avoided her for the rest of the night. It was back in time, when AGGRESSIVE women scared me. Now, I LOVE AGGRESSIVE WOMEN!!! 😉 But, yeah … I’d give that mix a run, and see if it stimulates a yearning. **THE END** ---
**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-none-product-for-a-cougar-hunting-mix/37336/9 "2010-03-28T17:55:55Z")
I’d layer a social, like IS or IO, on top of NPA. Some of the social/none mixes might work too, as the cover. MX330 is a good example and works well for me. Use the NPA to the chest but have the social on the hair or on the neck. That way you have a diffusive draw but when you two get closer, like on the dance floor or with some whispering in her ear or kino, she gets the stronger sexual signal that she’s looking for and you’re prepared to deliver. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-none-product-for-a-cougar-hunting-mix/37336/10 "2010-03-28T19:02:14Z")
High ANONE and some IS and IH… The feeling they get from 3x TUTH + 3x IH is akin to getting soaking wet after having one of the best salsa or merengue! ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2010, 1:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-none-product-for-a-cougar-hunting-mix/37336/11 "2010-03-29T01:10:16Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > High ANONE and some IS and IH… The feeling they get from **3x TUTH + 3x IH** is akin to getting soaking wet after having one of the best salsa or merengue! Now, that right thur … seems like an extremely dangerous and bedroom rocking mix, Cooliest of Kats! 2.5 mcgs of TUTH or 5 mcgs per spray? Have you gone out in public with that mix on? If the answer to that question is YES … how many times have you tested it? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![conundrum12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/46a35a/32.png) [@conundrum12](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/conundrum12)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2010, 1:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-none-product-for-a-cougar-hunting-mix/37336/12 "2010-03-29T01:46:12Z")
When just walking around on a daily trip to the mall or grocery store, etc. I wear 1 ammo. I find that older woman respond well to it and it doesn’t hit them super hard but should make approaching and getting a number much easier ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 5:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-none-product-for-a-cougar-hunting-mix/37336/13 "2010-03-31T05:20:25Z")
Well one thing I’ve noticed is I get much better results with TuTH than with Ammo. So far no negatives at all. Maybe it’s because of my age that I can get away with it but I strongly suspect that the mystery “steering” molecules in TuTH steer EVERYTHING is a sexual direction when part of a mix. When I wear A314 I get a very platonic respect and deference from my coworkers. A314 plus TuTH and they not only follow instructions, but do it with a lot more enthusiasm, and seem almost flirty. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), idle chit chat to the nth degree IO plus TuTH, idle chit chat that turns into a lot of sexual innuendo if the talking lasts more than 5 minutes. From my own personal experiences with TuTH, as a standalone it’s good for attracting middle aged latin and white women…VERY good. But I can handle about two or three sprays with a mix and it’s not so much that the mix buffers the none, I’m sure it does. But the none and steering molecules of TuTH also seem to almost guarantee that the message sent by any other product or mix always has an underlying tone of sexual attraction. I don’t know if it would be the same for younger guys but men my age? Awesome stuff. My base mix is A314, Shine and TuTH, sometimes with IO added if I want sexuality with a more fun care free sort of mood. I suspect from recent tests though that while IH seems to work a bit slower than IO at getting conversations going, the effects are stronger in the long run. ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 3:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-none-product-for-a-cougar-hunting-mix/37336/14 "2010-03-31T15:12:02Z")
My testing has been very limited with this mix, and it is still very raw… however I did notice attraction from older women when I tested P101 as a none buffer Something like 3xTUTH + 50-75 mcg P101 ---
**Author:** ![DssMaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dssmaster/32/1686_2.png) [@DssMaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DssMaster)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 4:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-none-product-for-a-cougar-hunting-mix/37336/15 "2010-05-21T04:54:00Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > Well one thing I’ve noticed is I get much better results with TuTH than with Ammo. So far no negatives at all. Maybe it’s because of my age that I can get away with it but I strongly suspect that the mystery “steering” molecules in TuTH steer EVERYTHING is a sexual direction when part of a mix. > When I wear A314 I get a very platonic respect and deference from my coworkers. > A314 plus TuTH and they not only follow instructions, but do it with a lot more enthusiasm, and seem almost flirty. > Instant Openness, idle chit chat to the nth degree > IO plus TuTH, idle chit chat that turns into a lot of sexual innuendo if the talking lasts more than 5 minutes. > From my own personal experiences with TuTH, as a standalone it’s good for attracting middle aged latin and white women…VERY good. > But I can handle about two or three sprays with a mix and it’s not so much that the mix buffers the none, I’m sure it does. But the none and steering molecules of TuTH also seem to almost guarantee that the message sent by any other product or mix always has an underlying tone of sexual attraction. > I don’t know if it would be the same for younger guys but men my age? Awesome stuff. > My base mix is A314, Shine and TuTH, sometimes with IO added if I want sexuality with a more fun care free sort of mood. I suspect from recent tests though that while IH seems to work a bit slower than IO at getting conversations going, the effects are stronger in the long run. Radman, just wondering which TUTH version do you have? The regular 2.5 mcg per spray? And how much do you spray on to get the result you get from the Latin and White cougars? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 11:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-none-product-for-a-cougar-hunting-mix/37336/16 "2010-05-21T11:47:44Z")
ok I misunderstood your pm, I didn’t realize you were meaning this particular topic. for every day I use 2 sprays of 2x with my mix. I used some tuth alone in an intentional overdose experiment and got some great cougar results but I normally use just two sprays as I say above and get across the board results with various ages. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 10:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-none-product-for-a-cougar-hunting-mix/37336/17 "2010-05-21T22:24:44Z")
I’ve been getting cougar hits with MX303 and MX312 or MX311. I doubt you have these though, and who knows if they’ll come back. However, good stuff with plenty of cougar hits so far. ---
**Author:** ![ousongwriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ousongwriter](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ousongwriter)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 2:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-none-product-for-a-cougar-hunting-mix/37336/18 "2010-12-06T02:07:05Z")
I would like to corroborate this result: Cougars respond better to IG and IH than IJ. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is good for just about any situation and the standards of Shine and IO are always recommended. I keep a togo of TUTH in my pocket to seal the deal.