# Best pheromone mix during sex?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [November 28, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-pheromone-mix-during-sex/66673 "2016-11-28T15:49:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![PitfromGreece](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e7dd6/32.png) [@PitfromGreece](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PitfromGreece)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-pheromone-mix-during-sex/66673/1 "2016-11-28T15:49:37Z")

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Any ideas what is good mixes to try to make the sex more pleasurable and wild for me and my girlfriend?

TUTH? As the most common to be used for this purpose?  
[Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/)? For the once in a while very wild night?  
MX353? I was sent this overly sexual mix by mistake.

Anything else that comes to mind??

Does TAC intensify and makes it easier for females to have an orgasm? This would come handy too…

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 4:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-pheromone-mix-during-sex/66673/2 "2016-11-28T16:01:23Z")

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Yep, TUTH/TAC will cause lots of orgasms. And crazy wild sex.

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**Author:** ![PitfromGreece](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e7dd6/32.png) [@PitfromGreece](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PitfromGreece)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-pheromone-mix-during-sex/66673/3 "2016-11-28T16:29:17Z")

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Would TAC have any negatives for this application? It seems that in lower doses (high 20mcg doses, recommended in bed?) can give a light/goofy effect?

Any experience with [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) during sex? This stuff its like a drug in self effects, I am getting “too alpha” feeling that no woman is good enough and (somewhat) shows in my behavior. Women feel, that I am over their status, and sometimes go the extra mile to appear charming, but most seem they do not have the self confidence for that.

I am going to be trying MX297 during sex soon, anyone’s else experience with that?

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**Author:** ![somechick03862](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@somechick03862](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/somechick03862)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-pheromone-mix-during-sex/66673/4 "2016-11-28T18:19:23Z")

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> [@PitfromGreece](#):
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> Would TAC have any negatives for this application? It seems that in lower doses (high 20mcg doses, recommended in bed?) can give a light/goofy effect?
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> Any experience with MX297 during sex? This stuff its like a drug in self effects, I am getting “too alpha” feeling that no woman is good enough and (somewhat) shows in my behavior. Women feel, that I am over their status, and sometimes go the extra mile to appear charming, but most seem they do not have the self confidence for that.
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> I am going to be trying MX297 during sex soon, anyone’s else experience with that?

TAC makes orgasms last forever… 😉

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-pheromone-mix-during-sex/66673/5 "2016-11-28T19:09:22Z")

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> [@PitfromGreece](#):
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> Would TAC have any negatives for this application? It seems that in lower doses (high 20mcg doses, recommended in bed?) can give a light/goofy effect?
> 
> Any experience with MX297 during sex? This stuff its like a drug in self effects, I am getting “too alpha” feeling that no woman is good enough and (somewhat) shows in my behavior. Women feel, that I am over their status, and sometimes go the extra mile to appear charming, but most seem they do not have the self confidence for that.
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> I am going to be trying MX297 during sex soon, anyone’s else experience with that?

I never used [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) at all.  
IMO it is Androstenone that causes all the orgasms but it is very difficult to have in high doses, so TAC helps ease women into it.  
Whenever I wear TUTH/TAC women orgasm back to back and on many occasions women have asked me how do I do that?

For me the best ratio I’ve found for TUTh/TAC is 2 sprays TUTH regular strength + 2 sprays TAC 10 MCG each.  
Which is a 1:4 ratio.

Also, by the addition of P96 and Hedione I’ve found that it amps up the power of the mix and women never want to leave my presence and every single time I wear this they never care about condoms.. Even for ONS. It’s crazy.

:: **EDIT** ::  
I would be careful to wear a mix like this out in public or for ONS as women being this disinhibited can get you into trouble, i.e. Pregnancies, std’s etc..

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**Author:** ![brasileira](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f9b8f/32.png) [@brasileira](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/brasileira)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-pheromone-mix-during-sex/66673/6 "2016-11-28T20:02:39Z")

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> [@somechick03862](#):
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> TAC makes orgasms last forever… 😉

Pls tell us more, somechick! 😃

How much TAC do you need for this magic? 🆒

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**Author:** ![somechick03862](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@somechick03862](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/somechick03862)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-pheromone-mix-during-sex/66673/7 "2016-11-28T20:58:44Z")

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> [@brasileira](#):
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> Pls tell us more, somechick! 😃
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> How much TAC do you need for this magic? 🆒

LOL, well, to be honest it has been a while since I have had a partner for such activities…when I DO have someone to play with, I use 20-30mcg, depending on how frisky I am feeling. When using 20mcg, orgasms last a long time and are very strong. Use 30 mcg and it is so long it is almost ridiculous. And a lot of smaller orgasms after, and most of the time it will lead to multiple orgasms.

If we are being honest here, I have used this solo, and this is how I first discovered the magic. When I take care of myself, such as when I am single or between ‘friends’, I sometimes use it to make things more interesting. It made for a good experiment when I first started using it. Let me really study the effects.

I wrote about it in my journal, but my journal is really long and boring… 😉

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**Author:** ![PitfromGreece](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e7dd6/32.png) [@PitfromGreece](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PitfromGreece)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 1:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-pheromone-mix-during-sex/66673/8 "2016-11-30T13:44:17Z")

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> [@Jdub](#):
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> I never used MX297 at all.  
> IMO it is Androstenone that causes all the orgasms but it is very difficult to have in high doses, so TAC helps ease women into it.  
> Whenever I wear TUTH/TAC women orgasm back to back and on many occasions women have asked me how do I do that?
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> For me the best ratio I’ve found for TUTh/TAC is 2 sprays TUTH regular strength + 2 sprays TAC 10 MCG each.  
> Which is a 1:4 ratio.
> 
> Also, by the addition of P96 and Hedione I’ve found that it amps up the power of the mix and women never want to leave my presence and every single time I wear this they never care about condoms.. Even for ONS. It’s crazy.
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> :: **EDIT** ::  
> I would be careful to wear a mix like this out in public or for ONS as women being this disinhibited can get you into trouble, i.e. Pregnancies, std’s etc..

OK nice, thank you for the detailed info! Where are you buying hedione from? Could you use it as a standalone aroma or is not strong enough for that purpose? How it compares in the effects with other popular [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/)?

I am going to try your ratio for TUTH, TAC and p96.

Are the orgasms feel as real as the “real” ones. I mean that orgasms can deepen feelings and improve relations, can this further happen with the help of this combo?

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 4:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-pheromone-mix-during-sex/66673/9 "2016-11-30T16:20:44Z")

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> [@PitfromGreece](#):
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> OK nice, thank you for the detailed info! Where are you buying hedione from? Could you use it as a standalone aroma or is not strong enough for that purpose? How it compares in the effects with other popular pheromones?
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> I am going to try your ratio for TUTH, TAC and p96.
> 
> Are the orgasms feel as real as the “real” ones. I mean that orgasms can deepen feelings and improve relations, can this further happen with the help of this combo?

I get mine from perfumers apprentice. It is very cheap. Just a few dabs to the neck is good enough IMO.  
Hedione is a different class of its own.  
I find it enhances pheromone mixes but is no way near as powerful as pheromones themselves. The smell of it is very subtle and has a nice floral aroma. When you smell it,it may remind you of some popular men’s colognes. It specifically triggers an area of the females brain that increases sex hormones.. There is a nice thread about it in the theory section called ‘the aftershave that turns women on’. Plenty of info there.

If you try TUTH/TAC/p96 it may take some serious testing and probably a lot of failure. I had a lot of fights and problems with my girl back when I was trying to get the ratios right so beware of that.

Um well I’ve certainly had women ‘feel’ like they were ‘in love with me’ from this mix but I’m not sure I can attribute it to the orgasms, more so the fact that the mix just makes them feel really really good.  
In fact, I’ve had women make some crazy promises during and after sex from this mix that when I eventually left it was as if they never made them so I’m not sure if that answers your question.

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**Author:** ![PitfromGreece](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e7dd6/32.png) [@PitfromGreece](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PitfromGreece)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-pheromone-mix-during-sex/66673/10 "2016-11-30T21:28:32Z")

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> [@Jdub](#):
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> I get mine from perfumers apprentice. It is very cheap. Just a few dabs to the neck is good enough IMO.  
> Hedione is a different class of its own.  
> I find it enhances pheromone mixes but is no way near as powerful as pheromones themselves. The smell of it is very subtle and has a nice floral aroma. When you smell it,it may remind you of some popular men’s colognes. It specifically triggers an area of the females brain that increases sex hormones.. There is a nice thread about it in the theory section called ‘the aftershave that turns women on’. Plenty of info there.
> 
> If you try TUTH/TAC/p96 it may take some serious testing and probably a lot of failure. I had a lot of fights and problems with my girl back when I was trying to get the ratios right so beware of that.
> 
> Um well I’ve certainly had women ‘feel’ like they were ‘in love with me’ from this mix but I’m not sure I can attribute it to the orgasms, more so the fact that the mix just makes them feel really really good.  
> In fact, I’ve had women make some crazy promises during and after sex from this mix that when I eventually left it was as if they never made them so I’m not sure if that answers your question.

Great information, thanks.  
I am going to use it only during sex… Could you closely attribute the fights to this mix? Or maybe, more specifically to the P96? It seems to bring both positive and negative emotions to me and others when I use it. What dose P96 were you using?

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-pheromone-mix-during-sex/66673/11 "2016-11-30T22:32:17Z")

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> [@PitfromGreece](#):
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> Great information, thanks.  
> I am going to use it only during sex… Could you closely attribute the fights to this mix? Or maybe, more specifically to the P96? It seems to bring both positive and negative emotions to me and others when I use it. What dose P96 were you using?

No actually the fights I would attribute to the TUTH, and this was actually before I added P96. I didn’t add the P96 until years later and it wasn’t with the same woman. When I was using TUTH/TAC mixes, trying to find that sweet spot was a juggling act between too much TUTH, i.e. Causing the ‘bumping of heads’ and too much TAC (too relaxed to react well to the TUTH).

I’ve never seen negative responses from the addition of P96 or P96 alone. The only thing I’ve seen negative by adding P96 (again trying to get the ratios right) was it basically killed the previous mix (TUTH/TAC) and rendered it null and void.

I use 3 sprays 2.5 MCG each P96, 7.5 MCG total.

Justintime469 also uses the same mix and I’m pretty sure he uses twice the P96 as me.. So it definitely varies.

I guess if one wanted to absolutely avoid conflicts playing with the TUTH and TAC they could start with a little higher dose of TAC and work down.

So altogether the mcgs go like this.  
TUTH - 5 MCG  
TAC - 20 MCG  
P96 - 7.5 MCG

Now I’ve even tried making things simpler and buying double strength TUTH and 20 MCG TAC to use 1 spray of each and the effects weren’t nearly as good so the amount of sprays, I found, for me was crucial.

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 2:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-pheromone-mix-during-sex/66673/12 "2016-12-01T02:20:47Z")

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If you want the hardcore sexual definitely TUTH/TAC you can not go to wrong with for sure. If it is just for you and your woman at home you might even be able to lower the TAC a little for more the hardcore type of sex. You can always add more TAC if you are seeing negative reactions from here. If anything else I would go with this setup to see what you think.

Now with the P96 it can vary with dosage yes. What I mean by this is at the lower doses say under 20MCG it is more of a beautifying molecule and say at over 30MCG it is more a hardcore straight emotional connect. For me I use 30MCG as I seem to get the beautifying effect, and emotional connection and is a good balance for me.

If you are seriously looking into the P96 I would try 10MCG a spray in the stealth so you can start with say 1/2 a spray and keep working up till you find what you like. I suggest the stealth so you won’t have to worry about adding more scent and smelling to strong and keep going higher in your dose if needed.

I have had good luck at 10MCG also, you would have to get this and test this one out to see what you like best as far as dose. I have been learning here a lot of us like the same mixes and molecules, but our doses and what we prefer is slightly different. What ever you like, or your goals are we can at least get you really close to where you should be dose wise

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**Author:** ![PitfromGreece](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e7dd6/32.png) [@PitfromGreece](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PitfromGreece)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 1:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-pheromone-mix-during-sex/66673/13 "2016-12-01T13:52:03Z")

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Any experience anyone using [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) during sex?

Is IJ going to make sex more animalistic?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-pheromone-mix-during-sex/66673/14 "2016-12-01T19:38:01Z")

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It depends on the woman really - Some do tune-in to IJ on a near-visceral level and respond appropriately - others will not and can respond very poorly indeed.

When using IJ, you do have to accept that you can repel far more women than you attract - but when it works for them - hang-on! 😃

IME, if you are looking for a pure sexual, then TUTH will probably the better primary due to its sexual steering.

The advice above is all good - TAC P96 and [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) are all good partners for TUTH. TUTH/TAC is probably my favourite combination with an established partner and for a long time TUTH/MX297 was a favourite ONS pairing - but you do need to be able to work it in an intense fun/social manner to get the best from it and TUTH/P96 is one that can help a woman get right-out there when it comes to expressing attraction.
