# Best product for intimidation and fear? (Not nearly as bad as it sounds!)

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-product-for-intimidation-and-fear-not-nearly-as-bad-as-it-sounds/54470>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 6, 2012, 2:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-product-for-intimidation-and-fear-not-nearly-as-bad-as-it-sounds/54470 "2012-02-06T14:52:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Home\_Dad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e47c2d/32.png) [@Home\_Dad](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Home_Dad)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 2:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-product-for-intimidation-and-fear-not-nearly-as-bad-as-it-sounds/54470/1 "2012-02-06T14:52:58Z")

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So,

As part of my part-time work, I participate in some fairly extreme simulations - think kidnapping/interrogation. It has struck me that using [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) possibly could work well as an added factor here.

What are your thoughts? I do realise that what I am asking about essentially is the opposite of what we normally want to achieve with mones, but maybe I can benefit from everyones mistakes?

So what would have the potential to strengthen the signature -  
the ideal vibe is aggressive, unreliable, out of control and impulse driven…basically ‘worst nightmare’ material.

Subjects are 75% males, 25% females.

Thankful for any advice, and please don’t take this the wrong way - these activities are perfectly legit and conducted under strictly controlled safety procedures.

Sean

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 2:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-product-for-intimidation-and-fear-not-nearly-as-bad-as-it-sounds/54470/2 "2012-02-06T14:59:30Z")

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Hi-dose IJ, or better still IJ/A314 - For that utter bastard who means every word aura! 😃

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**Author:** ![Home\_Dad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e47c2d/32.png) [@Home\_Dad](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Home_Dad)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-product-for-intimidation-and-fear-not-nearly-as-bad-as-it-sounds/54470/3 "2012-02-06T15:10:41Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> Hi-dose IJ, or better still IJ/A314 - For that utter bastard who means every word aura! 😃

Thanks, IJ was my first thought, and now when seconded I might try that. Not sure about A314 - I haven’t used it, but doesn’t it instil trust and respect? Maybe when used with IJ the IJ badass vibe dominates?

Actually it would be really interesting to hear if the AD folks have had any spectacular failures (as in ‘We thought this would be a good product, but when testing it turned out everyone is afraid of the user’).

How about all the putatives - I can’t seem to follow what is what - anything in there that could be useful?

Sean

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-product-for-intimidation-and-fear-not-nearly-as-bad-as-it-sounds/54470/4 "2012-02-06T15:19:21Z")

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> [@Home\_Dad](#):
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> Not sure about A314 - I haven’t used it, but doesn’t it instil trust and respect? Maybe when used with IJ the IJ badass vibe dominates?
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> Actually it would be really interesting to hear if the AD folks have had any spectacular failures (as in ‘We thought this would be a good product, but when testing it turned out everyone is afraid of the user’).

Very high none tends to signal aggression and domination and IJ is IMO steered towards aspects of a very abrasive personality (with strong cocky/arrogant self effects), whilst A314 also signals status, seriousness, capability and other alpha/dominating qualities (cool/collected/in-control self effects) - combine IJ with A314 and yes, people will trust and respect that the seriously badass vibe you are giving-off is very real. I don’t use it often but his is the mix I keep for when I want to let my inner bastard out to play. 😉

The answer to your second question is actually barely off the top of the boards:

> [@What was your worst mix ever? Share your pheromone backfires](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/worst-mix-ever/54063):
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> Hey guys. So what was your worst mix ever? Did something you thought would work really well BACKFIRE? Did something funny and unexpected happen? 1-2-3-GO!

And there are others.