# Best self-effects: A314 or P75? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 12, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-self-effects-a314-or-p75/189958 "2010-07-12T17:38:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-self-effects-a314-or-p75/189958/1 "2010-07-12T17:38:46Z")
This is a question I’m curious about because A314 and [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) without a doubt give me the most _obvious_ self-effects out of most of the products here. My question to the community is which of these two do you believe has the strongest (most obvious/best) self-effect? I love A314 as much as the next man, but I’m honestly leaning towards P75 because it reduces my sense of self-consiousness and allows me to be social with people with thinking too much. Argubably, A314 can have the same effect however I find that for social funcions P75 seems to eclipse A314 at least in my research. For business I would most certaintly pick A314 or P75 because I believe in the work environment A314 has no equal. ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-self-effects-a314-or-p75/189958/2 "2010-07-12T18:52:47Z")
That is a tuff one! I love A314 and own lots of it. However since using the [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) TAA TAC mix, I have not touched A314. That would be almost a month without A314, which is a first for me in over a year. For business matters, I would still go with A314 though. Just because I know it works. For everything else P75 is a perfect low cost alternative. It is “more” social, I agree with you on that. I think AD should base a social mix on P75. Some type of Instant product. I already wonder if Steves new mix that he has been talking about, contains P75. It would make perfect sense to me.That is just my opinion though 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-self-effects-a314-or-p75/189958/3 "2010-07-12T20:05:51Z")
I’ve been reading also that [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) in low doses has some sexual effects. Does that change with higher doses? ---
**Author:** ![BubbleCatcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ebca7d/32.png) [@BubbleCatcher](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BubbleCatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 7:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-self-effects-a314-or-p75/189958/4 "2010-07-19T07:09:39Z")
> [@andrew88777](#): > > That is a tuff one! I love A314 and own lots of it. However since using the P75 TAA TAC mix, I have not touched A314. That would be almost a month without A314, which is a first for me in over a year. For business matters, I would still go with A314 though. Just because I know it works. For everything else P75 is a perfect low cost alternative. It is “more” social, I agree with you on that. I think AD should base a social mix on P75. Some type of Instant product. I already wonder if Steves new mix that he has been talking about, contains P75. It would make perfect sense to me.That is just my opinion though 🙂 what ratio is your [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) TAA TAC mix? ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 12:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-self-effects-a314-or-p75/189958/5 "2010-07-19T12:37:57Z")
> [@BubbleCatcher](#): > > what ratio is your P75 TAA TAC mix? I use: [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) 2.5 mcg TAA 20 mcg TAC 20 mcg If you want a ratio 1:8:8 🙂 I mix it up to where I apply it in 2 sprays for 1 application. A few hours after application, I add an additional spray and the effects are still awesome. I have worn this mix for an entire month now. I am really happy with it. It works great in every situation. I can feel the effects as soon as I apply it. Plus I have not experienced any lessening of self effects. When I make up my next batch, I will begin testing it with additional Putatives. Bnol is first, because I have noticed it seems to work very harmoniously with P75, in other mixes. ---
**Author:** ![BubbleCatcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ebca7d/32.png) [@BubbleCatcher](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BubbleCatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-self-effects-a314-or-p75/189958/6 "2010-07-19T18:02:34Z")
> [@andrew88777](#): > > I use: > P75 2.5 mcg > TAA 20 mcg > TAC 20 mcg > > If you want a ratio 1:8:8 🙂 > > I mix it up to where I apply it in 2 sprays for 1 application. A few hours after application, I add an additional spray and the effects are still awesome. > > I have worn this mix for an entire month now. I am really happy with it. It works great in every situation. I can feel the effects as soon as I apply it. Plus I have not experienced any lessening of self effects. When I make up my next batch, I will begin testing it with additional Putatives. Bnol is first, because I have noticed it seems to work very harmoniously with P75, in other mixes. I like [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) but don’t have TAA but so have IS 2x and TAC so may try it with IS if i can workout the best ratio. cheers ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 2:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-self-effects-a314-or-p75/189958/7 "2010-07-20T02:09:37Z")
I haven’t gotten any over the top self effects from either I am afraid, but [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) gets the nudge for the slight energy boost I seem to get from it. ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 12:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-self-effects-a314-or-p75/189958/8 "2010-07-20T12:59:04Z")
So far in my testing, I get no self effect from [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/). A314 is very obvious in it’s self effect for myself. ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 1:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-self-effects-a314-or-p75/189958/9 "2010-07-21T01:04:14Z")
> [@evolver](#): > > So far in my testing, I get no self effect from P75. > > A314 is very obvious in it’s self effect for myself. What mcg range are you testing? For me good results come from 2.5 mcg or lower or higher depending on the mix I am using it in. ---
**Author:** ![js7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@js7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/js7)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-self-effects-a314-or-p75/189958/10 "2010-09-06T23:48:36Z")
> [@andrew88777](#): > > I use: > P75 2.5 mcg > TAA 20 mcg > TAC 20 mcg > > If you want a ratio 1:8:8 🙂 > > I mix it up to where I apply it in 2 sprays for 1 application. A few hours after application, I add an additional spray and the effects are still awesome. > > I have worn this mix for an entire month now. I am really happy with it. It works great in every situation. I can feel the effects as soon as I apply it. Plus I have not experienced any lessening of self effects. When I make up my next batch, I will begin testing it with additional Putatives. Bnol is first, because I have noticed it seems to work very harmoniously with P75, in other mixes. Andrew, So your mixing the three together in a togo bottle? How old are you? Just curious as I’m going to try [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) and I’m not sure what mcg I should go with. I like A314 alot and get noticeable results from 3 drops ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 1:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-self-effects-a314-or-p75/189958/11 "2010-09-07T01:19:48Z")
A314 by far. The effects for me are nearly instantaneous. ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-self-effects-a314-or-p75/189958/12 "2010-09-07T02:40:21Z")
> [@js7](#): > > Andrew, > > So your mixing the three together in a togo bottle? How old are you? Just curious as I’m going to try P75 and I’m not sure what mcg I should go with. I like A314 alot and get noticeable results from 3 drops I am 31. Yes I mix all three in a bottle. I like 2.5 mcg for the most part. However less than that does some stuff as well. Its best to just test it out. Find what works best. I have a 10 mcg bottle of P75. I dilute it down. If you do not want to dilute then get the 2.5 mcg per spray. Best money spent on a [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/)! ---
**Author:** ![Universe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/universe/32/1239_2.png) [@Universe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Universe)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 4:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-self-effects-a314-or-p75/189958/13 "2011-10-11T16:39:03Z")
If I could only use one for the rest of my life, I’d choose A314. ---
**Author:** ![thebigQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee7513/32.png) [@thebigQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thebigQ)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-self-effects-a314-or-p75/189958/14 "2011-10-11T20:55:26Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > This is a question I’m curious about because A314 and P75 without a doubt give me the most _obvious_ self-effects out of most of the products here. > > My question to the community is which of these two do you believe has the strongest (most obvious/best) self-effect? > > I love A314 as much as the next man, but I’m honestly leaning towards P75 because it reduces my sense of self-consiousness and allows me to be social with people with thinking too much. > > Argubably, A314 can have the same effect however I find that for social funcions P75 seems to eclipse A314 at least in my research. For business I would most certaintly pick A314 or P75 because I believe in the work environment A314 has no equal. I think a few people might be confusing self-effects with effect on others. Nothing comes close to A314 with effect on others but self-effects, C’mon man!, K-Train, I am with you on p75. * * * **Consumer Line:** AMMO, A314, Instant Shine, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty, Turn Up the heat, [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), Instant Jerk, Come Talk To Me Mix 2 **MX Series:** MX297, MX301, MX330, Project UF, Project UF2, MX412 **Putatives:** P74, P75, P78, P83, P86, P91, P93, P96 ---
**Author:** ![Universe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/universe/32/1239_2.png) [@Universe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Universe)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 10:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-self-effects-a314-or-p75/189958/15 "2011-10-11T22:18:12Z")
Ehh, you’re right. I didn’t read his question properly. If we’re talking about ONLY self-effects, I’d say [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) as well. > [@thebigQ](#): > > I think a few people might be confusing self-effects with effect on others. Nothing comes close to A314 with effect on others but self-effects, C’mon man!, K-Train, I am with you on p75. > > * * * > > **Consumer Line:** AMMO, A314, Instant Shine, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty, Turn Up the heat, Instant Gentleman, Instant Jerk, Come Talk To Me Mix 2 > > **MX Series:** MX297, MX301, MX330, Project UF, Project UF2, MX412 > > **Putatives:** P74, P75, P78, P83, P86, P91, P93, P96 ---
**Author:** ![MusikAddikt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/musikaddikt/32/1576_2.png) [@MusikAddikt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MusikAddikt)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 9:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-self-effects-a314-or-p75/189958/16 "2013-01-12T09:58:31Z")
What would happen if you combined 1 spray of p75 with A314? Why do they have to be seperate? Maybe some IS to lighten the effect? ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 9:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-self-effects-a314-or-p75/189958/17 "2013-01-13T09:20:52Z")
> [@monesmadedoit](#): > > There’s always a chance A314 may have P75 In it.😉 I agree it is quite possible that there is at least trace amounts of p75 in A314, I’m also convinced it is in IJ aswell. ---
**Author:** ![bodomslayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@bodomslayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bodomslayer)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 11:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-self-effects-a314-or-p75/189958/18 "2013-01-13T11:53:00Z")
The mostly androsterone, androstenone combination + I’ve found not as potent as [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/)’s effects when it comes to the release of dopamine. Its very obvious this is what is happening having experience with nutrition and various other questionables in the process we call life. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2013, 4:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-self-effects-a314-or-p75/189958/19 "2013-01-14T04:14:42Z")
Both have equal self effects.. a314 more business, p75 more I’m a stud. Sometimes self effects are not there.. Depends if you get lucky and they hit. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 5:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-self-effects-a314-or-p75/189958/20 "2013-08-29T05:39:14Z")
I get self effects from both.. i find more noticeable self effects with a314.. I will say this.. A314 makes you have self effects of talking like a know it all smart guy and p75 well I find when I look back a day after how I act I say things I normally wouldn’t have the guts too like “It was a COMPLETE PLEASURE meeting you.” In a TONE that IMPLIES DTF sex.. But yet without it I have had thoughts about talking like that but I wouldn’t capitalize on the moment.. Know what I mean? Is it me or is it the self effects of the mones.. I don’t know. I believe it is me but the mones help RELEASE that side of my personality quickly without hesitation , whereas without it I’m simply the nice guy. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-self-effects-a314-or-p75/189958.md?page=2)