# Best sexual pheromone complement for A314? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 9, 2011, 9:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-sexual-pheromone-complement-for-a314/190001 "2011-05-09T21:29:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![slingblade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@slingblade](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/slingblade)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 9:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-sexual-pheromone-complement-for-a314/190001/1 "2011-05-09T21:29:45Z")
Hi folks. This would be for meeting women while also wearing A314. Please post any colognes I might have missed in the poll or additional comments. I currently own [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and TUTH. Thanks! Matt ---
**Author:** ![thodge21](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thodge21/32/1084_2.png) [@thodge21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thodge21)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 9:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-sexual-pheromone-complement-for-a314/190001/2 "2011-05-09T21:34:22Z")
After my experience today I would say [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). ---
**Author:** ![Climax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@Climax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Climax)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-sexual-pheromone-complement-for-a314/190001/3 "2011-05-18T18:45:01Z")
In my use of IJ + A314 it seems like IJ is like steroids to A314. It had no negative backlash but it seemed to just increase the respect, authority, and even the social vibe of A314 drastically and sexually atleast there wasn’t much of a difference but I saw a girl look me up and down a few times before looking away after she saw I noticed. Only thing is It lacks the ability to help me read minds so I don’t know if it is perfect. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-sexual-pheromone-complement-for-a314/190001/4 "2011-05-18T20:08:53Z")
I had to remove a couple of the poll answers as those companies have been blacklisted by AD for whatever reasons. What I have been told is that AD will not promote any companies they feel do more harm. Even bad publicity is still publicity and AD does not want to steer our clients to a site they deem as bad. Just wanted to give you a heads up of why I changed it. ---
**Author:** ![r22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/r22/32/1161_2.png) [@r22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/r22)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 10:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-sexual-pheromone-complement-for-a314/190001/5 "2011-05-18T22:25:36Z")
Hey Steve I was just curious what you meant by “more harm”? What was bad about those products, was it a quality issue or did those products literally cause harm to users in some way? I was really just wondering because I’ve never heard of mones causing harm to anyone, but i’am still…a super n00b lol shout out to 1alpha 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 10:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-sexual-pheromone-complement-for-a314/190001/6 "2011-05-18T22:58:54Z")
> [@r22](#): > > Hey Steve I was just curious what you meant by “more harm”? What was bad about those products, was it a quality issue or did those products literally cause harm to users in some way? I was really just wondering because I’ve never heard of mones causing harm to anyone, but i’am still…a super n00b lol shout out to 1alpha 🙂 You might want to read these two threads to get an idea of some of the background issues in the phero industry. > **[PheromoneTalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/a2-45500.html)** > > Everything about using pheromones to enhance your social life > **[PheromoneTalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/jasmin-taken-out-picture-please-keep-32807.html)** > > Everything about using pheromones to enhance your social life ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-sexual-pheromone-complement-for-a314/190001/7 "2011-05-18T23:26:24Z")
> [@r22](#): > > Hey Steve I was just curious what you meant by “more harm”? What was bad about those products, was it a quality issue or did those products literally cause harm to users in some way? I was really just wondering because I’ve never heard of mones causing harm to anyone, but i’am still…a super n00b lol shout out to 1alpha 🙂 Its not about anything that “I meant”🙂. I’ve been asked to remove things like that because I work for AD. Mobocaster provided some excellent links. Same ones I would have. Please keep in mind this is not a personal opinion this is me doing my job. ---
**Author:** ![Climax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@Climax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Climax)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 1:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-sexual-pheromone-complement-for-a314/190001/9 "2011-05-19T01:41:00Z")
This thread just went WAY off topic from the original post… ---
**Author:** ![r22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/r22/32/1161_2.png) [@r22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/r22)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 2:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-sexual-pheromone-complement-for-a314/190001/10 "2011-05-19T02:46:58Z")
> [@Climax](#): > > This thread just went WAY off topic from the original post… That’s my fault lol sorry, I just wound up getting alot more info than I thought I would along the way just sorta spiraled ---
**Author:** ![slingblade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@slingblade](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/slingblade)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 6:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-sexual-pheromone-complement-for-a314/190001/11 "2011-05-19T06:45:04Z")
HI guys, I did not mean to promote any of these products. I am merely new to [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) and these are among the few that were highly rated here and elsewhere…I was just curious about forum member thoughts, that’s all. Not a spammer. Nearly all that I own is AD. ---
**Author:** ![slingblade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@slingblade](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/slingblade)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 6:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-sexual-pheromone-complement-for-a314/190001/12 "2011-05-19T06:47:51Z")
I do know which products Steve removed haha…thanks Steve for the heads up! I would not be surprised if there is a good reason for the blacklisting. NVM someone answered question below in another thread… * * * Back to OP topic: What is the -none content of TUTH relative to IJ? Would it take three or four sprays TUTH to equal 1xIJ? Thanks, Matt ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 9:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-sexual-pheromone-complement-for-a314/190001/13 "2011-05-19T09:01:23Z")
Tuth has around 2.5mcg in standard form and 5mcg in hot, IJ contains around 12.5mcg of none out of 15mcg total phero content but the steering molecules are probably rather different, so I doubt it is simply a matter of adding-up the sprays to equal? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 1:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-sexual-pheromone-complement-for-a314/190001/14 "2011-05-19T13:24:23Z")
Agreed, two different products…otherwise instant jerk would simply be called TuTHX6. I gave my opinion on this already but I’ll repeat for the benefit of those who don’t have access to the A314 forum. Both A314 and TuTH contain none, but TuTH has other mystery molecules in it designed to steer none in a sexual direction (as opposed to an aggressive direction). Once molecules diffuse off the skin those steering mones don’t know the difference between None from TuTH and None from A314. The person exposed to the signal will get the A314 signal including the none from it, and the steering molecules activate the portion of the brain that will interpret the signal as sexual. This is true of 1 spray or 5. Now A314 is a special kind of signal and you don’t want to alter it too drastically. Adding too heavy a none sig, or too much of another complicated product changes it so much it’s no longer A314. For that reason when I want a more sexual A314 signal I go heavy on the A314…in the neighborhood of 4 drops. And a single spray of regular strength TuTH. As I said you already have some none from the A314 and at 4 drops, it’s probable a good amount. That single spray of TuTH provides all the steering molecules you need for a sexual direction. It steers both it’s own None and the None from A314. Much more than a single spray and the Rone/None ratio gets thrown off too much and it’s no longer A314. Especially true since A314 diffuses slow being an oil base. A spray of Alc based TuTH can be a fine balance with 4 drops of slow oil based A314 but much more than that and it changes to overall signal too much. As John said in the other thread, and I agree…A314 really doesn’t need anything else. If you know how to wear it and your game is good and compliments the high status vibe you should actually have an easier time escalating and closing with A314 alone than you could with a more overtly sexual product alone. But if you find from personal experience (as opposed to just assuming that A314 isn’t sexual enough for closing) then as I said, go strong with the A314 so as to maintain a ratio that keeps the A314 effect and add juuuuuuust a touch of TuTH sexuality…no more than that. Note this doesn’t apply to A314 sprays which imo you don’t need to be using unless you’re in a very cool environment to begin with. [A314 spray](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic-spray/) in warm easy diffusing temperatures is a different animal and the effects are different to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![Climax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@Climax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Climax)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-sexual-pheromone-complement-for-a314/190001/15 "2011-05-19T15:47:04Z")
I have A314, just never got around to sending the recipt over so I could see the A314 forum, is it considerably active? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 2:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-sexual-pheromone-complement-for-a314/190001/16 "2011-05-20T02:38:05Z")
Lots of insight here from somebody who really knows A314. Newbies be advised: > [@RADMAN513](#): > > Agreed, two different products…otherwise instant jerk would simply be called TuTHX6. > > I gave my opinion on this already but I’ll repeat for the benefit of those who don’t have access to the A314 forum. > > Both A314 and TuTH contain none, but TuTH has other mystery molecules in it designed to steer none in a sexual direction (as opposed to an aggressive direction). > Once molecules diffuse off the skin those steering mones don’t know the difference between None from TuTH and None from A314. The person exposed to the signal will get the A314 signal including the none from it, and the steering molecules activate the portion of the brain that will interpret the signal as sexual. > > This is true of 1 spray or 5. Now A314 is a special kind of signal and you don’t want to alter it too drastically. Adding too heavy a none sig, or too much of another complicated product changes it so much it’s no longer A314. For that reason when I want a more sexual A314 signal I go heavy on the A314…in the neighborhood of 4 drops. And a single spray of regular strength TuTH. As I said you already have some none from the A314 and at 4 drops, it’s probable a good amount. That single spray of TuTH provides all the steering molecules you need for a sexual direction. It steers both it’s own None and the None from A314. Much more than a single spray and the Rone/None ratio gets thrown off too much and it’s no longer A314. > > Especially true since A314 diffuses slow being an oil base. A spray of Alc based TuTH can be a fine balance with 4 drops of slow oil based A314 but much more than that and it changes to overall signal too much. > > As John said in the other thread, and I agree…A314 really doesn’t need anything else. If you know how to wear it and your game is good and compliments the high status vibe you should actually have an easier time escalating and closing with A314 alone than you could with a more overtly sexual product alone. But if you find from personal experience (as opposed to just assuming that A314 isn’t sexual enough for closing) then as I said, go strong with the A314 so as to maintain a ratio that keeps the A314 effect and add juuuuuuust a touch of TuTH sexuality…no more than that. > > Note this doesn’t apply to A314 sprays which imo you don’t need to be using unless you’re in a very cool environment to begin with. A314 spray in warm easy diffusing temperatures is a different animal and the effects are different to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 2:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-sexual-pheromone-complement-for-a314/190001/17 "2011-05-20T02:38:37Z")
> [@Climax](#): > > I have A314, just never got around to sending the recipt over so I could see the A314 forum, is it considerably active? Yup sure is ---
**Author:** ![slingblade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@slingblade](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/slingblade)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 6:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-sexual-pheromone-complement-for-a314/190001/18 "2011-05-20T06:25:44Z")
O.K. cool, that was very helpful. I am totally new to this and suspect that I may be ODing in a lot of situations…it’s not entirely clear to me when/if I am doing so. It’s quite possible that I don’t produce a whole lot of -none because I’m applying a boatload of it (think 4xTUTH and 2-3xA314 oil) and don’t appear to OD. This is why I’m trying to figure out the -none content in IJ. I am 27. Thanks, Matt > [@RADMAN513](#): > > Agreed, two different products…otherwise instant jerk would simply be called TuTHX6. > > I gave my opinion on this already but I’ll repeat for the benefit of those who don’t have access to the A314 forum. > > Both A314 and TuTH contain none, but TuTH has other mystery molecules in it designed to steer none in a sexual direction (as opposed to an aggressive direction). > Once molecules diffuse off the skin those steering mones don’t know the difference between None from TuTH and None from A314. The person exposed to the signal will get the A314 signal including the none from it, and the steering molecules activate the portion of the brain that will interpret the signal as sexual. > > This is true of 1 spray or 5. Now A314 is a special kind of signal and you don’t want to alter it too drastically. Adding too heavy a none sig, or too much of another complicated product changes it so much it’s no longer A314. For that reason when I want a more sexual A314 signal I go heavy on the A314…in the neighborhood of 4 drops. And a single spray of regular strength TuTH. As I said you already have some none from the A314 and at 4 drops, it’s probable a good amount. That single spray of TuTH provides all the steering molecules you need for a sexual direction. It steers both it’s own None and the None from A314. Much more than a single spray and the Rone/None ratio gets thrown off too much and it’s no longer A314. > > Especially true since A314 diffuses slow being an oil base. A spray of Alc based TuTH can be a fine balance with 4 drops of slow oil based A314 but much more than that and it changes to overall signal too much. > > As John said in the other thread, and I agree…A314 really doesn’t need anything else. If you know how to wear it and your game is good and compliments the high status vibe you should actually have an easier time escalating and closing with A314 alone than you could with a more overtly sexual product alone. But if you find from personal experience (as opposed to just assuming that A314 isn’t sexual enough for closing) then as I said, go strong with the A314 so as to maintain a ratio that keeps the A314 effect and add juuuuuuust a touch of TuTH sexuality…no more than that. > > Note this doesn’t apply to A314 sprays which imo you don’t need to be using unless you’re in a very cool environment to begin with. A314 spray in warm easy diffusing temperatures is a different animal and the effects are different to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![Fade1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fade1/32/1949_2.png) [@Fade1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Fade1)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-sexual-pheromone-complement-for-a314/190001/19 "2011-05-22T18:43:21Z")
Very useful post radman, thank you for taking the time. I will keep this info in mind. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 6:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-sexual-pheromone-complement-for-a314/190001/20 "2011-05-27T18:29:13Z")
I have to disagree that TUTH and IJ are similar enough to say that TUTH = IJx6. They have a decidedly different effect, and attract/repel decidedly different women at an “equal” dose of anone. (6 x tuth does not get the same results as 1x IJ by far). That’s been my experience, at least. I find that I use TUTH at doses of 1-2 sprays most times for success, and IJ at 1 or 4 sprays. They attract very different races and ages. 6 sprays of TUTH would make me rage out of control (4 is my limit), but I can wear 4 sprays IJ and stay calm in most cases. That said, I voted “Other” because I think A314 can be sexualized beautifully by both of these. Usually it works best in my experience if you have a 1:1 ratio of A314 to IJ/TUTH, or if you have an (X-1):X ratio. For instance, 2:3 is very nice in most cases, as long as you have the bigger dose being suited for what you’re trying to accomplish. IJ/TUTH in the bigger dose makes it more sexual and aggressive, and A314 in the bigger dose makes it more powerful and smoulderingly sexual. 2:3 IJ/A314 can make it damned hard for cougars to keep their hands to themselves, too, from what I have seen. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-sexual-pheromone-complement-for-a314/190001/21 "2011-05-29T02:56:15Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > They attract very **different races** and **ages**. May I/we have your notes on your dosage findings for that, Sir Cat? [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-sexual-pheromone-complement-for-a314/190001.md?page=2)