# best strength level for P83? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 25, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-strength-level-for-p83/35720 "2010-01-25T17:11:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mikdal9201](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikdal9201/32/2358_2.png) [@mikdal9201](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikdal9201)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-strength-level-for-p83/35720/1 "2010-01-25T17:11:52Z")
I’ve been reading up a bit on [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) and am a little confused. I’ve been reading that the “best” level to have is between 30-40 mcg. Is that for both the full size and the togo size? If not what would be the “best” level to be in? Also, any suggestions for a cover scent that works well with it? thanks a million ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-strength-level-for-p83/35720/2 "2010-01-25T18:23:16Z")
The best level is what YOU perceive it to be determined by your own personal results. Those doses aren’t cemented in as standard doses, someone can actually see hits with less or way more, it all depends on your own body chemistry so only way to find out is by trial and error AKA testing. Good luck! > [@mikdal9201](#): > > I’ve been reading up a bit on P83 and am a little confused. I’ve been reading that the “best” level to have is between 30-40 mcg. Is that for both the full size and the togo size? If not what would be the “best” level to be in? > > Also, any suggestions for a cover scent that works well with it? > > thanks a million ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-strength-level-for-p83/35720/3 "2010-01-25T19:14:15Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > The best level is what YOU perceive it to be determined by your own personal results. Those doses aren’t cemented in as standard doses, someone can actually see hits with less or way more, it all depends on your own body chemistry so only way to find out is by trial and error AKA testing. Good luck! I agree with this statement right here. I’d personally buy it at 12.5mcgs per spray and then work your way up and see if you can notice any differences between the dosages. If you notice anything, come back here and report on it.😃 ---
**Author:** ![mikdal9201](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikdal9201/32/2358_2.png) [@mikdal9201](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikdal9201)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 9:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-strength-level-for-p83/35720/4 "2010-01-25T21:46:42Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > The best level is what YOU perceive it to be determined by your own personal results. Those doses aren’t cemented in as standard doses, someone can actually see hits with less or way more, it all depends on your own body chemistry so only way to find out is by trial and error AKA testing. Good luck! I totally understand what you’re saying about different people having different results with dosage but i guess i’m asking for which dosages tend to work for you guys. I guess i’m doing a little research in a way. ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 10:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-strength-level-for-p83/35720/5 "2010-01-25T22:52:18Z")
use the search function. This has been discussed a bunch recently as p83 is quite a hot commodity around here due to the effects it has. definitely a personal favorite ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 3:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-strength-level-for-p83/35720/6 "2010-02-07T15:15:52Z")
tried 25mcg of p83, along with 2x AMMO + 1x IS + 2x IH last night… This girl I know normally feels comfortable with the latter combo, but was a bit feeling nervous with p83 added. When I asked her to come in to my room - I wasn’t tyring to make her have sex- she just blurted out to me, “my mom told me not to just walk into a man’s room.” I think p83 can be an amazing sexual amplifier. Although she kept on throwing out resistances, whenever I pushed her to do something she would do it. Like I shoved her a bit on the back, and she just walked right into my room. Also, she was afraid to lie on my bed. she was telling me how a lady shouldn’t be lying on a man’s bed, haha… However, when I grabbed her hand and motioned her to lie down, she did. I think it has some kind of “obey my order” type of effect I dont think I will use p83 with her again… ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-strength-level-for-p83/35720/7 "2010-02-07T22:22:58Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > tried 25mcg of p83, along with 2x AMMO + 1x IS + 2x IH last night… > > This girl I know normally feels comfortable with the latter combo, but was a bit feeling nervous with p83 added. When I asked her to come in to my room - I wasn’t tyring to make her have sex- she just blurted out to me, “my mom told me not to just walk into a man’s room.” I think p83 can be an amazing sexual amplifier. Although she kept on throwing out resistances, whenever I pushed her to do something she would do it. Like I shoved her a bit on the back, and she just walked right into my room. Also, she was afraid to lie on my bed. she was telling me how a lady shouldn’t be lying on a man’s bed, haha… However, when I grabbed her hand and motioned her to lie down, she did. I think it has some kind of “obey my order” type of effect > > I dont think I will use p83 with her again… Sounds like she just has (or was _trying_) to show morals. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-strength-level-for-p83/35720/8 "2010-02-07T22:36:39Z")
I’m glad you weren’t trying to push her into anything. But then again she did show resistance. For me I find that I can intensify some bad emotions on my part when I wear P83 so unless shit’s going great I won’t drop it on myself anymore. Its true though too many people want to half fast the whole process of gauging their own putative/[pheromone](https://a314.com/) range yet their only hurting themselves in the long run b/c they’ll either be missing out on being able to use LESS of the mone to garner pretty much the same result OR finding a higher limit that will work mountains better in the same sort of situation. If mones were cut and dry like clothes I’d be in big trouble. It takes a lot of work to find button-up shirts and pants/ jeans that fit me properly even when I know my own size lol. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 11:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-strength-level-for-p83/35720/9 "2010-02-07T23:55:58Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > I’m glad you weren’t trying to push her into anything. But then again she did show resistance. For me I find that I can intensify some bad emotions on my part when I wear P83 so unless shit’s going great I won’t drop it on myself anymore. > > Its true though too many people want to half fast the whole process of gauging their own putative/pheromone range yet their only hurting themselves in the long run b/c they’ll either be missing out on being able to use LESS of the mone to garner pretty much the same result OR finding a higher limit that will work mountains better in the same sort of situation. > > If mones were cut and dry like clothes I’d be in big trouble. It takes a lot of work to find button-up shirts and pants/ jeans that fit me properly even when I know my own size lol. Actually, I wasn’t trying to get her laid tonight. I was just surprised that she blurted those things out - how woman shouldn’t go into another man’s room alone, lie on his bed, sit next to him side by side, etc. I was just trying to talk to her and show her something she wanted to see. I wasn’t being sexual with her at all, haha. I I guess the mones made her feel that way? also, I never force people to do anything. I have high moral values- not religious frenetic type, but I don’t do anything against law or something that would hurt myself or others. For instance, I wouldnt sleep with another man’s wife, steal someone’s money… anyways, she knows me fairly well, and she trusted me enough to come and sit next to me in my room ALONE… ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-strength-level-for-p83/35720/10 "2010-02-08T18:14:25Z")
Seems like she’s a little old fashioned and so am I. Yeah I’m not accusing of anything and even though I can’t expect everyone to be the same I admire guys as well as women that are more morally inclined even though I’ll admit that even the idea of what fits into morality can become a little gray. I suppose your signature can be intimidating to her somewhat because it seems like she’s trying to cling to rational grounding as she may see it and showcases it by blurting out to you certain “rules” that she feels have importance to her. ---
**Author:** ![fishdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4bbf92/32.png) [@fishdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishdude)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 5:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-strength-level-for-p83/35720/11 "2010-02-09T17:26:58Z")
She was just putting up some resistance. Every woman will do this to a degree. When she walked into your room she brought up sex before you did so she was already thinking about it. But you took her hand so in her mind she is very inocent. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-strength-level-for-p83/35720/12 "2010-02-09T19:56:04Z")
> [@fishdude](#): > > She was just putting up some resistance. Every woman will do this to a degree. When she walked into your room she brought up sex before you did so she was already thinking about it. But you took her hand so in her mind she is very inocent. Yeah, maybe BUT was she thinking about it in a positive light in his favor is the question. ---
**Author:** ![fishdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4bbf92/32.png) [@fishdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishdude)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-strength-level-for-p83/35720/13 "2010-02-09T20:45:36Z")
Absolutely, If she never had any sexual thought she would have never even brought up the topic. Negging a sex action is refusing to take responsibility for anything that may happen. “but you seduced me.” ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 11:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-strength-level-for-p83/35720/14 "2010-02-09T23:32:52Z")
I think that night, her interest in me increased. She has called me like 5 times the past two days, asking me to go out and eat and stuff! ---
**Author:** ![extremetestosterone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ea5d25/32.png) [@extremetestosterone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/extremetestosterone)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2010, 3:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-strength-level-for-p83/35720/15 "2010-02-10T03:03:49Z")
The other day about 45 minutes before work I applied 30mcg to my neck. People seemed to hang on my every word. One girl in particular responded very well. She jumped at every chance she had to talk to me, and I noticed LOTS of extended eye contact and staring. Furthermore, that day she seemed to gravitate toward me, and everytime I went out for a smoke it didn’t take even two minutes and she was out there joining me. I felt like such a fucking stud…and this chick is hot man!!! So to answer your question I’d personally go 30-45mcg. Some people say that [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) gets unpredictable in large doses, but the only way to know for sure is to test it out. ---
**Author:** ![johnny\_blaze79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dbc845/32.png) [@johnny\_blaze79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/johnny_blaze79)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2010, 11:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-strength-level-for-p83/35720/16 "2010-02-10T23:56:37Z")
I need to get me some, every time I check it’s out of stock. This product is certainly on my must have list.