# Beta and alpha **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 27, 2014, 2:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beta-and-alpha/63098 "2014-10-27T02:22:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 2:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beta-and-alpha/63098/1 "2014-10-27T02:22:29Z")
What is meant by ‘beta-vibe’ and ‘alpha-vibe’…? Are these things good or no..? ---
**Author:** ![Todulaney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/71c47a/32.png) [@Todulaney](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Todulaney)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 3:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beta-and-alpha/63098/2 "2014-10-27T03:55:12Z")
It depends.In the animal/human kingdom If youre a alpha, then youre basically the leader the of the pack whereas a beta is the follower who supports the leader. Alpha give off the vibe that they are leaders and know what they do and are almost seen as fearless whereas the beta are usually the ones who follow after alpha. Dont forget the sigmas who arent really alpha but arent beta. Theyre the ones who can lead and potentially replace the alpha and mate with the alpha female of the group but rather like to be loners. Think Squall from final fantasy or Wolverine. Theyre like the antihero’s of hero’s. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 4:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beta-and-alpha/63098/3 "2014-10-27T04:37:43Z")
Ok. I see. So when you give off a beta vibe with the pheros, what does that do for a woman? Is it bad? ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 6:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beta-and-alpha/63098/4 "2014-10-27T06:43:59Z")
`http://www.pheromonetalk.com/every-question-every-answer-68609.html` `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/tags/alpha.html` This is where Napoleon spent his last days. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/f/f6c519bcee8c231b0342581680e17ac64ce3c5a0.jpeg) Was he alpha, and would you even want to be that? This is the spot of Hitler’s “funeral.” Was he alpha? [http://timelifeblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/12\_116565168.jpg?w=900](http://timelifeblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/12_116565168.jpg?w=900) ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 10:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beta-and-alpha/63098/5 "2014-10-27T10:35:39Z")
> [@Jdub](#): > > Ok. I see. So when you give off a beta vibe with the pheros, what does that do for a woman? Is it bad? Depends on the woman’s taste buds. If she likes ALPHA, it’s bad! If she likes BETA, your in the **money!** 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 6:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beta-and-alpha/63098/6 "2014-10-27T18:32:51Z")
> [@Jdub](#): > > Ok. I see. So when you give off a beta vibe with the pheros, what does that do for a woman? Is it bad? Few if any pheros give-off a beta vibe by themselves - That part is more down to how you handle them and if you live-up to the promise of their signature - or not. IMO, most of the times you read of someone calling a phero “beta” is because it is fundamentally at odds with their personality/personal presentation and maybe induces negative self effects that don’t help them be congruent with the signals they are sending.. Similarly, no amount of A314 or P75 will make much difference beyond brief initial impact if the wearer remains shy, reticent, shifty or overly fawning and a rufty-tufty, chisled-Alpha type can have difficulties if they can’t throw themselves into the swing of a full-on social/party mix like [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) or IS/IO and have as good a time as the initial impression suggests. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beta-and-alpha/63098/7 "2014-10-27T21:20:30Z")
Ok thank you. I have a better understanding now.