# betanol and instant shine and strength **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 7, 2007, 11:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-instant-shine-and-strength/7190 "2007-12-07T11:33:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![crashbandicoot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/crashbandicoot/32/2321_2.png) [@crashbandicoot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/crashbandicoot)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 11:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-instant-shine-and-strength/7190/1 "2007-12-07T11:33:28Z")
_Hello, recently I’ve discovered the power of beta Androstenol on my self making me more aloof, talklative, friendly, funny , witty, and more romantic. It’s like the Hugh Grant effect™ instead of most androstenone vin diesel or van damme effect. I’m trying to get feedback on dosage._ _I haven’t got Androtics instant honesty yet, but have LS chem set betanol which I transfered into an old liquid trust spray bottle and use 4 sprays of that to good effect. Do you think instant honesty will give me the same great effect and more convenience with a spray bottle and scent from Androtics as oppsed to making my own spray._ _I have also combined Instant shine to this betanol spray and gotten a lil bit better result. Instant shine is subtle on me, maybe I’m already celebrity like lol and shiny but I don’t think it hurts. Also wanna know please God if Instant shine has the same stuff as W.a.g.g cuz I hate W.a.g.g. Turns me into a beta male and also invisible and people become really condescending. I’ve read a post where instant shine 2 sprays 1x made a guy invisible, I doubt it though cus IS should have a celebrity effect._ _P.S I almost forgot which instant honesty should I get 1x 2x and 4x and what does it smell like. I love the smell of instant shine, is it the same neroli orange?_ _Crash._ ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 6:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-instant-shine-and-strength/7190/2 "2007-12-07T18:34:00Z")
Don’t worry, with regular use the self-medication effects of beta nol will fade and you’ll be normal again. However, your targets won’t be used to it and you’ll be in control. WAGG is designed for those suffering from badass and lone wolf syndrome. Makes you more social and approachable. It’s not recommended for normal guys–softens you too much. Shine has been extremely subtle in my experience. Perhaps I’m too “shiny” as is! Ah dunno, Shine smells like ass cheese with fermented oranges. But I think it’s best used with other products rather than as a standalone. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-instant-shine-and-strength/7190/3 "2007-12-07T18:47:05Z")
No WAGG and Shine do not have the same thing in them 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 8:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-instant-shine-and-strength/7190/4 "2007-12-07T20:09:53Z")
> [@](#): > > cuz I hate W.a.g.g. Turns me into a beta male and also invisible and people > become really condescending. Simple fix: add androstenone (NPA, The Edge or Turn Up The Heat). Thus WAGG imparts a balanced vibe similar to Alter Ego and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). WAGG as a standalone is only for lone wolf and badass types. The self-medication effects of most mones will fade with regular use, so focus on using them for social enhancement (targets). ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 10:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-instant-shine-and-strength/7190/5 "2007-12-07T22:06:28Z")
> [@crashbandicoot](#): > > _Hello, recently I’ve discovered the power of beta Androstenol on my self_ > _making me more aloof, talklative, friendly, funny , witty, and more_ > _romantic. It’s like the Hugh Grant effect™ instead of most androstenone_ > _vin diesel or van damme effect._ > _I’m trying to get feedback on dosage._ > > _I haven’t got Androtics instant honesty yet, but have LS chem set_ > _betanol which I transfered into an old liquid trust spray bottle_ > _and use 4 sprays of that to good effect. Do you think instant honesty_ > _will give me the same great effect and more convenience with a spray bottle_ > _and scent from Androtics as oppsed to making my own spray._ > > _I have also combined Instant shine to this betanol spray and gotten_ > _a lil bit better result. Instant shine is subtle on me, maybe I’m already celebrity like lol and shiny but I don’t think it hurts. Also wanna know_ > _please God if Instant shine has the same stuff as W.a.g.g_ > _cuz I hate W.a.g.g. Turns me into a beta male and also invisible and people_ > _become really condescending._ > _I’ve read a post where instant shine 2 sprays 1x made a guy invisible, I doubt it though_ > _cus IS should have a celebrity effect._ > > _P.S I almost forgot which instant honesty should I get 1x 2x and 4x_ > _and what does it smell like. I love the smell of instant shine, is it the same_ > _neroli orange?_ > > _Crash._ Interesting observations Crash! I had to go back and read all your posts.🙂 I was very surprised at how much more obvious the effects of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) were compared to LS chemset Androstadienone when I first started using it. I will be very interested to hear more about your results with Instant Shine and IFM combinations. IShine should take care of your IFM depression effects to some extent. Do you happen to have some Est at hand? That might help as well. Also, I don’t think IS has the same ingredients as Wagg. Whatever is in IShine is pretty unique from my experience. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 11:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-instant-shine-and-strength/7190/6 "2007-12-07T23:20:28Z")
TAA is a molecule unique and recent to Androtics. No one else has it. WAGG goes back a ways and smells like a lot of alpha androstenol is in the mix. For those that want an all-in-one solution, the variant, WAGGN, adds androstenone to the mix for normal guys that dig the friendly buzz but need to man up a bit. ---
**Author:** ![crashbandicoot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/crashbandicoot/32/2321_2.png) [@crashbandicoot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/crashbandicoot)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 4:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-instant-shine-and-strength/7190/7 "2007-12-08T04:54:05Z")
_Today I tried 4 sprays from the liquid trust bottle filled with betanol from L-S. And a female customer would’nt stop talking for 25 mins 5 mins after closing time, I just could’nt shake her. I just mentioned to her about how a shiatsu massage chair would be a good gift for herself (about 200 dollars) and she bought it in a flash. When I dropped it in the trunk of her car she followed me back to the store to say good night then went back to her car which was quite far away actually. Another cute female customer, an ethereal nordic beauty I wanted to talk to more hung around for a while but I could’nt shake off that other woman so she left. I was wearing 1 dab Pi/m about (5 mcg none) 4 sprays betanol and 1 spray liquid trust on shirt._ _I almost returned Pi/m but one to two dabs seem great. I think wagg is more wang (what a nice guy) like geeky maybe and sweet maybe like I love you like a brother.Makes me under confident and kills the Pi/m buzz for me, but guys are real friendly and want to be my friends and hang out. I can’t wait to be gegogi’s age where I can slather on none and get hits like crazy. You’re in your 50’s right? also another gentleman named terry0440 something has that same effect. So lucky you guys. Crash._