# betanol and none question **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 3, 2008, 1:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-none-question/16823 "2008-08-03T13:18:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![crashbandicoot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/crashbandicoot/32/2321_2.png) [@crashbandicoot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/crashbandicoot)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2008, 1:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-none-question/16823/1 "2008-08-03T13:18:51Z")
I find the effects of instant shine, much like beta nol. Closeness and comfort plus the taa ofcourse, maybe that’s why plain taa oil does not work as good as shine, maybe the secret is beta nol. Anyway I was wondering what a mix of a good none source product and high beta nol combination would be like. Anyone tried? I don’t have plain betanol or honesty but I do have cttm2 which is great. Pheros I currently have Shine 2x Openess2x tuth version 1 gentleman ifm chemset a1 Npa Edge Primal A314 soe unscented. and some more samples of various mones and stuff scattered in my drawer I’ve tried alot of mixes and am going to try betanol and none only instead of buffering none with rone like I always do, feels good this one lot’s of respect type hits, but no sex stuff going on. Need the sexual hits but always get bad reactions with plain none while alpha androstenol is only friendly and no lack of respect just plain friendliness. That’s why I’m thinking about betanol. So any body tried betanol with androstenone? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2008, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-none-question/16823/2 "2008-08-03T18:17:01Z")
Everyone is different. I found plain TAA spray beats the livin’ crap outta IS. I went through 2 bottles of IS (1x & 4x) and great prefer both spray and oil TAA. Actually androstenone and alpha androstenol have been my staple for many years. I normally mix NPA or Stone labs chemset androstenone 1:5 with cologne and add a zap of Stone labs chemset alpha androstenol. I also have Stone labs chemset beta androstenol. The effects of beta androstenol are in the same ball park but not as effective for initial encounters and socializing. I greatly prefer alpha -Androstenol. The myth is beta -Androstenol somehow encourages deeper conversation but that’s not patently true. Most folks, especially drunks and bimbos, have zero deep thoughts and no amount of beta -Androstenol changes that fact. Babble is babble whether alpha or beta -Androstenol induced. Alpha -Androstenol effects are more immediate, upfront and loose-lipped. That’s what you want if coupling with NPA or other heavy androstenone products. How many deep thoughts can a girl have after being exposed to NPA? BAsically she’s thinking “I’m horny and wanna bump uglies” and not “conceptual understanding is imperative for intrinsic involvement.” Finally realize mones are extremely context sensitive. They are what you make them. You steer them with your persona, i.e., wits, charm, appearance and actions. Respect is something you earn and wear in your persona. Using beta -nol will not gain you one iota of respect over alpha -nol, just a different variation on BS. Incidentally, -rone is not a good buffer for -none. You need to buffer with socials and “feel good” mones. ---
**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2008, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-none-question/16823/3 "2008-08-03T19:03:58Z")
Gegogi, what is the amount (mcg) of TAA spray that you use? Í’m 49 white male, what should I be looking at (ballpark)? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2008, 7:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-none-question/16823/4 "2008-08-03T19:12:34Z")
4 or 5 zaps of 25mcg TAA and a few cranks o’ androstenol propel me straight into hog heaven. Some need more, some less. You gotta test if you hunger for the awful truth. ---
**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2008, 7:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-none-question/16823/5 "2008-08-03T19:24:21Z")
I agree about testing, which is why I asked about a ballpark guess. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![ProtoJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@ProtoJay](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ProtoJay)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2008, 7:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-none-question/16823/6 "2008-08-03T19:26:06Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Everyone is different. I found plain TAA spray beats the livin’ crap outta IS. I went through 2 bottles of IS (1x & 4x) and great prefer both spray and oil TAA. > > Actually androstenone and alpha androstenol have been my staple for many years. I normally mix NPA or Stone labs chemset androstenone 1:5 with cologne and add a zap of Stone labs chemset alpha androstenol. I also have Stone labs chemset beta androstenol. The effects of beta androstenol are in the same ball park but not as effective for initial encounters and socializing. I greatly prefer alpha -Androstenol. The myth is beta -Androstenol somehow encourages deeper conversation but that’s not patently true. Most folks, especially drunks and bimbos, have zero deep thoughts and no amount of beta -Androstenol changes that fact. Babble is babble whether alpha or beta -Androstenol induced. Alpha -Androstenol effects are more immediate, upfront and loose-lipped. That’s what you want if coupling with NPA or other heavy androstenone products. How many deep thoughts can a girl have after being exposed to NPA? BAsically she’s thinking “I’m horny and wanna bump uglies” and not “conceptual understanding is imperative for intrinsic involvement.” > > Finally realize pheromones are extremely context sensitive. They are what you make them. You steer them with your persona, i.e., wits, charm, appearance and actions. Respect is something you earn and wear in your persona. Using beta -Androstenol will not gain you one iota of respect over alpha -Androstenol, just a different variation on BS. > > Incidentally, -Androsterone is not a good buffer for -none. You need to buffer with socials and “feel good” pheromones. Interesting and agreeable 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![crashbandicoot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/crashbandicoot/32/2321_2.png) [@crashbandicoot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/crashbandicoot)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-none-question/16823/7 "2008-08-05T03:07:01Z")
Cool, I’m finally understanding npa and te now, mixed npa with fahrenheit 5 to1 ratio and it seems to be working well. Today a lady sprawled out in front of me on the desk revealing her cleavage clearlly and all glazy eyed. Was wearing 3 sprays cttm, 2 sprays gentleman and 1 spray of the npa fahren from an old instant honesty togo atomizer spray. I wonder what this might me capable of. She was with her police ofiicer boyfriend, as soon as she saw me she got this weird, develish and glazy smile with dilated eyes and told her boyfreind to leave cuz he was bugging her. She also told him that she needed to talk with me alone without distraction. I work at a health food store. I really wanna go heavier on the npa but not scare women away. What are good buffers besides a1. I hate a1, depression and sappiness for me, also complaints of urine man, but it works at calming the ladies for sure at the expense of be becoming a crying sap. Think Chandler from friends. If she didnt have a cop bf waiting outside I would have pushed it further. So was it a hit, I think so, but I’d like it to work with all women, not some women. ---
**Author:** ![crashbandicoot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/crashbandicoot/32/2321_2.png) [@crashbandicoot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/crashbandicoot)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 3:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-none-question/16823/8 "2008-08-05T03:08:37Z")
whos that man with the sixpack, you dont need mones. Get out of here. lol ---
**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 3:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-none-question/16823/9 "2008-08-05T03:30:09Z")
> [@crashbandicoot](#): > > whos that man with the sixpack, you dont need pheromones. Get out of here. lol I got 'em after _drinking_ 8 drops of A314. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 6:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-none-question/16823/10 "2008-08-05T06:50:57Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Most folks, especially drunks and bimbos, have zero deep thoughts and no amount of beta -Androstenol changes that fact. Babble is babble whether alpha or beta -Androstenol induced. ROTFLMAO - but so very true!! > [@Gegogi](#): > > “conceptual understanding is imperative for intrinsic involvement.” Have not seen that one in a while … the old days … > [@Gegogi](#): > > 4 or 5 zaps of 25mcg TAA and a few cranks o’ androstenol propel me straight into hog heaven. Nice dosing. > [@Gegogi](#): > > Finally realize pheromones are extremely context sensitive. They are what you make them. You steer them with your persona, i.e., wits, charm, appearance and actions. Respect is something you earn and wear in your persona. Using beta -Androstenol will not gain you one iota of respect over alpha -Androstenol, just a different variation on BS. Again so very true - all the above is why you _are_ Da Big Kahuna! ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 6:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-none-question/16823/11 "2008-08-05T06:54:00Z")
> [@crashbandicoot](#): > > whos that man with the sixpack, you dont need pheromones. > [@Robbie](#): > > I got 'em after _drinking_ 8 drops of A314. Man if thats all it takes I’m in, I don’t care what it tastes like … I wonder what drinking the whole bottle will do for me … lol.😛 ---
**Author:** ![crashbandicoot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/crashbandicoot/32/2321_2.png) [@crashbandicoot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/crashbandicoot)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 7:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-none-question/16823/12 "2008-08-05T07:02:48Z")
I’d rather do stomach vacumms. and crunches the old fashioned way, were you always this cut? btw what do yall think about my hit… fourth or fifth time using anything with npa. Gegogi I read that u used 10 to 12 drops one time, isnt that like 200 mcg none, Or did you mean dabs, which would still be 100 mcgs none. hmmm, I will try it tommorow at work, and use a strong cover scent. ---
**Author:** ![crashbandicoot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/crashbandicoot/32/2321_2.png) [@crashbandicoot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/crashbandicoot)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 7:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-none-question/16823/13 "2008-08-05T07:15:33Z")
maybe only 5 dabs, I dont wanna get fired or anything weird happening, although I have used upto 2 drops Primal with no problems, ofcourse with gentleman and cttm2 as buffers ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 9:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-none-question/16823/14 "2008-08-05T09:38:50Z")
I used to crank it a lot with NPA but rarely anymore. A couple sprays of the 5:1 mix and I’m done. High doses tend to scare away young girls but married and/or older women basically catch on fire. Probably works the same on all women but married women tend to be more in touch with their sexuality and aren’t frightened by wet panties. Whatever, I grew weary looking over my shoulder for angry husbands. Plus it’s hard to get any work done with women drooling and staring at you. ---
**Author:** ![crashbandicoot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/crashbandicoot/32/2321_2.png) [@crashbandicoot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/crashbandicoot)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 5:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-none-question/16823/15 "2008-08-05T17:58:09Z")
oooooooooh! I’m getting excited about this. ---
**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-none-question/16823/16 "2008-08-05T19:03:06Z")
> [@crashbandicoot](#): > > I’d rather do stomach vacumms. and crunches the old fashioned way, > were you always this cut? btw what do yall think about my hit… It’s just my avatar, my goal is to get abs like that, I’m doing quite well on that goal. As for your hit-- Damn! Totally wild, dude! I _look forward_ to a hit that intense. ---
**Author:** ![crashbandicoot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/crashbandicoot/32/2321_2.png) [@crashbandicoot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/crashbandicoot)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2008, 4:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-none-question/16823/17 "2008-08-06T04:15:53Z")
tried 6 sprays of npa fahrenheit combo 5 to 1 ratio 2 sprays gentleman and 3 sprays honesty, A bit of fear from people and sexual agitaion from women. Like lfipping their hair really fast and adjusting their pants and trying to immediately look good for some reason. A couple of women left their treadmills and hopped on the one next mine all the time smiling. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2008, 5:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-and-none-question/16823/18 "2008-08-06T05:05:31Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > _ **I used to crank it a lot with NPA** _ > > _ **women basically catch on fire** _ > > _ **wet panties** _ > > _ **angry husbands** _ > > _ **it’s hard** _ > > _ **women drooling and staring at you** _ So maestro, you gave up jumping hurdles and running track? 😃