# Betanol vs. Alphanol: An Alternative View **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 9, 2007, 10:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-vs-alphanol-an-alternative-view/7242 "2007-12-09T10:27:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2007, 1:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-vs-alphanol-an-alternative-view/7242/21 "2007-12-10T13:33:43Z")
Androstadienol is the -ol version of the famous molecule Androstadienone. It has some reports of being a fun (hilarity) molecule. Tacitus has made some posts on Androstadienol here and on l-s. Over to Tacitus… **Tacitus:** Androstadienone is a rather direct, fairly potent male [pheromone](https://a314.com/) that is, mmmm, like the polite version of androstenone, not quite the same animal kick, more social sexy than antisocial sexy. Androstadienone can be converted to -dienOL, a much subtler beastie, which seems to REDUCE some of the hard energies of androstenone, and can have a sedative effect in various circumstances, in other circumstances it appears to open a "group mind’ channel which leads to spontaneous, synchronized behaviors. Mind you, dienOL comes in two flavors, alpha, which seems to be more generally mellowing (and also can have an unthreatening, light, happy quality) and beta (if I read these tea leaves right) that seems to have a manly, comforting, earthier quality about it… for some reason the beta toggle appears to engage serious or more adult straight talking interests, and alpha more emotional, maybe romantic, giddy qualities… You might want to try a phero blend that allows you to be perceived as mellow, comfortable in your identity, and will take the edge off surprise interactions… since you can’t be fully invisible, you should be perceived as relaxing, unthreatening… TAK is absolutely a “cooler offer” but it might be too much for you, the wearer, to emenate that much TAK, I’ve found P86 to be a superb mellower of situations, others have had different results, androstadienOL, a somewhat rare pheromone, has routinely functioned for me as a calmative, I’ve seen whole rooms full of people become quiet and settled with -dienOL, and P74 is a great “comfort pheromone”… for you a combination of alpha-dienol, P74, and maybe a little P86 might make you seem pleasant, agreeable, low key… everybody go their own way and behave… **Another user on a now defunct forum at p…andmore.com wrote this about Androstadienol.** “I got to choose what i want, and that’s not all, women approached me, i approach some too, some texted me to approach them, others to dance, I was like a little kid in a toy store, I did have a great fun and phone numbers to set up future opportunities” ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2007, 1:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-vs-alphanol-an-alternative-view/7242/22 "2007-12-10T13:39:19Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > Interesting. Approximate ratios of the 24 hour totals in this measurement were: > > Androstenone - 1 > Androstadienone - 10 > Beta-Androstadienol - 2 > **Alpha-Androstenol- 4** > **Beta-Androstenol - 1** > > This suggests a 4/1 alpha/beta Androstenol ratio might be “natural,” at least for the population measured. I hope it wasn’t a bunch of octogenarians in a nursing home! The age range was 18-40 years old. [Simultaneous quantification of five odorous steroi…[J Steroid Biochem. 1988] - PubMed Result](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&uid=3379959&cmd=showdetailview&indexed=google) ---
**Author:** ![TRDE59](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trde59/32/412_2.png) [@TRDE59](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TRDE59)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2007, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-vs-alphanol-an-alternative-view/7242/23 "2007-12-10T21:32:44Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > The age range was 18-40 years old. > [Simultaneous quantification of five odorous steroi…[J Steroid Biochem. 1988] - PubMed Result](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&uid=3379959&cmd=showdetailview&indexed=google) meh. WAAAAY too large of an age difference. It’s a good start… a good average amount, and no doubt a useful piece of information, but I would guess that these ratios would be different in an 18 y/o vs. a 40 y/o. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2007, 9:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-vs-alphanol-an-alternative-view/7242/24 "2007-12-10T21:51:11Z")
I suspect that within narrow age groups these amounts would vary considerably due to race, diet, physical condition and other lifestyle factors. In other words, age may not be a as large a factor as one may think. I can’t help but notice women tend to go for older guys so they must have something going on besides a fatter wallet. ---
**Author:** ![Smudge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@Smudge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smudge)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2007, 9:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-vs-alphanol-an-alternative-view/7242/25 "2007-12-10T21:51:37Z")
The statements are debatable. For most trials involving healthy subjects, age between 18-45 is the norm, particularily if the study does not involve any new interventions. In this respect, the range of 18-40 yo employed in this study is quite acceptable. Also, while certain physiological markers change over time, some remain constant throughout life. ---
**Author:** ![m3turbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@m3turbo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/m3turbo)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 2:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-vs-alphanol-an-alternative-view/7242/26 "2007-12-11T02:13:16Z")
I have used both chemicals extensively and the biggest difference that I have noticed is that Alpha nol helps the atmosphere but does not seem to draw people to talkiing to you like betanol. Also Alphanol seems to immasculate a little bit where betanol does not. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 3:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-vs-alphanol-an-alternative-view/7242/27 "2007-12-11T03:26:54Z")
> [@](#): > > I suspect that within narrow age groups these amounts would vary considerably due to race, diet, physical condition and other lifestyle factors. In other words, age may not be a as large a factor as one may think. I can’t help but notice women tend to go for older guys so they must have something going on besides a fatter wallet. I agree when we talk about what certain mones being good for a certain age group we are really just giving general info to get you started in the right direction. Due to diet, general fitness, race ect it could go one way or the other. I think some girls are attracted to older men for more then there wallets though. More experience, More grounded, tend to know what they want and how to get it. Not that some yound guys cant have those quality, they are just harder to find. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 7:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-vs-alphanol-an-alternative-view/7242/28 "2007-12-11T07:30:25Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I think some girls are attracted to older men for more then there wallets though. More experience, More grounded, tend to know what they want and how to get it. Not that some yound guys cant have those quality, they are just harder to find. > > Tisha It would be interesting to gather the information on which pheromones are best to use to target these girls, I think.. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/betanol-vs-alphanol-an-alternative-view/7242.md?page=1)