# Between Two Worlds **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [September 9, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541 "2010-09-09T16:20:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![The\_Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@The\_Hammer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Hammer)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 1:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541/101 "2011-10-05T01:46:48Z")
I’ve kept up with the A314 thing. I’m trying to push myself out of comfort zones with women, and the nudge in that direction seems to make 10x the difference. I think I’m at the point in my evolution where the results are exponential to the effort put in. Honestly, that means I’m a bit behind the curve, but that’s ok. I’ve noticed a lot of doe eyes at work recently. Maybe I’m just observing what I want to observe, but other body language seems to line up with everything I observe. There seems to be some sexual tension with a few women that I work with. It is a slight and not terribly noticeable at times, but I will probably know on Friday as I have a meeting with one of the women. Or, perhaps, I’m just more observant now. Today I was jogging down the street and a girl, who couldn’t have been more than 14, passed me from the other way. Her body language changed into a “hey look at me” posture when I got closer. Obviously I kept jogging, but I don’t think I would have even noticed that a month ago. I’ve been told that women are ingrained with body language skills from an early age and that is probably true. I wonder if men never had that or if they have it and lose it because it isn’t as important in the male adolescent world. Today: **3 drops A314.** I had a presentation and everything changed last minute. It turns out I was going in front of an entire different group of people and I had to change gears last second. I personally don’t think I did well, but I was told that I did a great job. Who knows. I think I was better than others, from what I’ve heard, but that isn’t good enough for me. Of all things in life, comparing yourself to others for comparison’s sake is dumb. My best is what matters, not how others have done things. I’ll move on and keep making good impressions. I’ve taken the time to read a few more threads around here and sticking to A314 seems like I’m missing out on a lot. In the spirit of that, this past weekend I walked around with some Ammo. Man, I forgot that I love this stuff. I didn’t have a huge number of interactions, but I did go to the bank. There are two cute tellers there, one is married (I think), and the other is single from what I can tell. I usually wear shine around them, as that tends to be my weekend favorite. This time I wore some Ammo and had a little more conversation than what is usual. She’s a cool girl. Who knows. She’s honestly not my type but I’ll continue going there and having good conversations. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@The\_Hammer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Hammer)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 11:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541/102 "2011-10-06T23:05:00Z")
I wore **two drops of A314 today with a cover scent of Marc Jacobs for men.** I had no idea that the two scents would go so well together, but they do. If you’ve never smelled Marc Jacobs for men, it has a fig scent to it. There are more expensive fig scents, but I can’t vouch for them. Today I was sitting at work and I got a message from one of my assistants asking me a question. She walks over to my desk and then kneels down on her knees while I’m sitting in my chair. Then, when she stands back up she starts fidgeting with her hands and shifting her weight like a little girl that wants attention. I got her to bite her lip by calmly speaking to her while looking into her dilated pupils. Good stuff. Then later, I had to ask a few people a question and she was one of them. She immediately got out of her chair and starting walking toward me while everybody else was content to sit in their seats. I probably wouldn’t have noticed that she was leading with her chest, but she pushed herself so far forward that her t-shirt showed stress lines where her bra was. I said I would know if the sexual tension was real or imagined by Friday. I got my answer a day early. Tomorrow I get to spend even more time with this girl. Who will know what happens. I also got some more responsibility hefted onto me from a superior today. It gets my name out there with some people, so I’m happy to do it. Responsibility isn’t a weight, it is a lever. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@The\_Hammer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Hammer)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541/103 "2011-10-13T01:03:47Z")
Wearing the A314 still. Today I work just one drop of A314 on the back of my neck. I’ve been wearing it on my beard, but it has been causing some itching. I nearly running out, so I need to buy some more. I didn’t have any noticeable hits today, but I did “crack a case” and I’m really happy about it. Previously we thought we were going to have to settle the case, but I really went the extra mile and figured out how to nail them to the wall. I think I lost some of my friends from the last year. I’m not really sure. Long story short, I was back-stabbed by a friend. I wasn’t exactly sure at the time, so I asked another friend if she thought I was back-stabbed. At the time it seemed like a good idea, because I didn’t want to be paranoid. However, now, it seems like none of the clique that I was with responds to my texts/calls. It’s a good lesson for me, really. Whether or not he did stab me in the back, I should have watched what I said and how I acted. You know, it’s hard to act normal around somebody you no longer like. I don’t think I made a huge mistake or anything, but it is what it is. I just need to accept that and move on. Of course, I also learned some other things, which I don’t believe are all positive. First, now I’m hesitant to trust others. This isn’t good. However, I have learned to better realize “problem people” faster than it bites me in the ass. There is one at work, and I wouldn’t have noticed the same personality traits had I not been stabbed in the back like that. I am a trusting person, and I think that is one of my better traits. At this point, it is not about not trusting people, it is about not trusting information. Some things just can’t get out. Of course, that brings me back a little. It seems like I’ve gone one step back in approval accepting behavior. I tend to say things, stories from my past, which are approval accepting in nature. They are interesting, but I’m sharing them at the wrong time, for the wrong reason, and with the wrong results. Setting myself on a better course won’t be complete until I really meet new people to get along with. That’s when I’m tested the most. There is sharing things for the enjoyment of both parties, and sharing things to try and pump yourself up. I’m not on the embarrassingly terrible side of the latter, but I can get better. Edit: Total odd thing. I’ve noticed that I like it more and more when women paint their nails. I never really cared before, in fact I thought it was odd and maybe even dumb. Now I really like women who paint their nails for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 9:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541/104 "2011-10-13T21:24:29Z")
I really enjoy your journal! I wish that I had more time to interact on the forum, but again other things pull me away. This is what I love to do and your journal just reminds me how much I miss being able to respond to fantastic posts everyday, instead of just basic acknowledgments. I think I connect with you because our paths are much alike. Now with that out the way I have a couple of observations for yah. I totally get where you are coming from with people back-stabbing you. In fact it was one of my greatest challenges to overcome. Just like you I inherently like to trust and I guess that way I’m pretty gullible. Raised on the golden rule and all it gets me into trouble often. I had to really come to grips when I noticed that not everyone is going to be good people. Most of my careers have left me dismayed about the human element. It seemed the more understanding, the more compassion I had for the people the more the corporation itself frowned upon this and created headaches. I am not ignorant nor do I allow people to take advantage of my kindness. Its better to sever the relationship than to have to walk on egg-shells thinking you are going to be wronged. Personally I believe that you are better off without people like that in your life. Remember though, trust is an earned privilege and not something thrown around to easily. Think of it like your ATM pin number. You wouldn’t just give it to anybody. So while its nice to believe people are good and to treat them the same way you want to be, its also nice to understand human dynamics so as not to get burned. I believe by moving on you have done the right thing. We all take a step back once in a while and its a big part of our journey. Again I think this is good for us. It reaffirms what needs more attention to and allows us the opportunity to correct any self-defeating traits. Every one of us needs a good swift kick in the ass every once in a while so we get back on course. You might not recognize it now, but its a GIG opportunity for you. I think you do see it though. As for “cracking the case” congratulations. A314 is just solid, but only on an already solid person. You are a solid guy 😃 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@The\_Hammer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Hammer)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 12:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541/105 "2011-10-14T00:09:04Z")
Thanks Steve, I really appreciate it. I honestly think that as human beings we all go through the same experiences, but each one of us has a different internal construction. Some people breeze through certain emotions while others get stuck up on others and need work. I’m glad that I can recognize some of these sticking points. I know a few that tend to silence their problems with drugs/alcohol instead of advancing who they are. I think as long as I understand and appreciate my internal journey, the external stuff becomes easier to work with. It’s odd, but I think I get the most from this forum not from the pheromone discussions, but the self-improvement discussions that inevitably follow. Everybody here is trying to improve their lives by using pheromones, but after testing them out for a little while it becomes obvious that the greatest shift isn’t from the outside (pheromones) it is from the inside. The pheromones only open the gateway to deeper understandings between people. If you don’t actually have anything worthwhile to share, it is a false signal and won’t lead anywhere. In all honesty, I will reach a point where I have everything together to such a degree that pheromones will work so well with my personality that it will be completely unfair. “All I want from life is an unfair advantage.” ~W.C. Fields What is a GIG moment? Get in Gear? Today: **Didn’t wear anything, totally forgot**. I noticed that my female boss uses foul language. So does my male boss. I’ve noticed it before, but I never actually thought about how it affects me. The female boss likes to use “the r-word” a lot. I used to call people or things “retarded,” but I stopped when I met a girl whose little sister was so debilitated that she had the mental capacity of a fetus. I’ve considered it for a while, and it isn’t bringing anything better to the world when that word is used. I should use more appropriate language and be a leader in this situation by example. There are more accurate and apt descriptions of the behavior of others that I should strive for. I remember when I was a senior in high school. My upbringing was very conservative, so I never had the opportunity or need to swear. For whatever reason, I dropped “the f-bomb,” and a girl exclaimed that she had never heard me swear before. I want to get back to that. In college I had a gutter mouth, saying the most foul and disgusting things. You are what you eat? Yes, but you are also all of the things that come out of your mouth. I’m not going to start a swear jar or anything, but I am going to avoid expressing myself with negativity. I’ve also started being a little more playful with some of the women at work. Nothing that would get me fired, and perhaps not enough to spark much attraction, if any, but there aren’t any opportunities to joke around much at work, so I’m going to run with them and just enjoy the process. I’ve also started running lately. Not a whole lot, maybe twice a week for small distances. I am starting to get in shape for myself. I haven’t lived up to my physical potential, so I want to push myself and get the body I deserve. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 10:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541/106 "2011-10-14T22:42:25Z")
A GIG moment is a BIG moment only misspelled 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@The\_Hammer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Hammer)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 9:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541/107 "2011-10-19T09:51:53Z")
Thanks Steve. Keeping the momentum up now is the important part. I’m going to avoid anything but A314 at work for a while. I believe a woman there has serious reactions to perfume/perfumer’s alcohol etc., so out of respect for her health I’m going to avoid any sprays of anything. I don’t believe she has negative reactions from A314 oil or else I would have probably noticed by now. I actually took a short break from A314 oil this from Friday through Tuesday, and I’m going to be starting up again today (unless I forget). I probably only have a few weeks left of A314, but man does it last a long time. ---
**Author:** ![treeon325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@treeon325](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/treeon325)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 2:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541/108 "2011-10-19T14:24:12Z")
excellent thread! seems like things are looking up for you. dont worry about the stink eye chick. like you said, most of these ppl come from families with ‘more’, so naturally they look down on somebody who has less than them,…or they perceive you as having less than them. so they really hate to see you moving up, or having more confidence in yourself. break a leg tiger! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@The\_Hammer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Hammer)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 2:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541/109 "2011-10-21T02:11:16Z")
Thanks! I wore more A314 today. I ended up getting one of those giant globs out that are immeasurable. Of course I added more on top. I probably ended up with 5-6 total drops. Today was alright. I realized that one of my coworkers constantly gives me stuff. Buys me drinks if we head out etc… He also tells me stuff that others probably shouldn’t know: things about his girlfriend etc… Some of it is the normal work dynamic, but there is probably some A314 effects in there. Too much A314 affected me negatively. I was irrationally angry for a good few hours, to the point that a superior had to tell me to not take things so personally. Sage advice, but obviously I had bit too much on. One thing that is interesting, that a lot of the subtle emotions that I sometimes have on with A314 disappeared. For example, sometimes I have increased feelings of self-doubt with A314 (as noted in earlier posts). Not so with the amount I had on today. Self doubt was blown away, I had an “I’m right, everybody else is wrong” vibe the entire day. Not a good thing for a work environment. I’ve also noticed that one of the office staff hasn’t really warmed up to me at all. He hasn’t really talked to me much at all, preferring to ask questions to one of my co-workers. At first, I thought that he didn’t like me. Maybe I rubbed him wrong the first time I met him or something. Then today I interacted with him a few times more than normal and he seemed friendlier. I’m wondering if he has just been intimidated by my signature in the past and hasn’t interacted with me much because he can’t tell if I’m an aggressive alpha or a dependable alpha, if that makes sense. Or maybe he really doesn’t like me. Who knows? He was recently in the Army, so it is also possible that he acts a certain way with authority or perhaps he didn’t give respect until I had 5 drops on? Also, the one woman at work seems to still be into me. I thought she was 23, but she is apparently 28. I based my guess on her maturity level and how she acted around me, but if she is 28 she seems a little immature. Of course, I don’t know her outside of work, but there are some body mannerisms that she conveys that aren’t professional/adult like. I flirted with her a bit, nothing really hot or anything, just joking around a bit. Picking on her like she’s the bratty sister, though obviously not that bad because hey- I’m at work. I’ve been looking at people in the eyes more and more. I usually remember to do that with women, but not always with men. I should look men in the eye more, but I just haven’t really thought of it. It seems like something that goes in cycles with me. Like I’ll look people more in the eyes for 2 or 3 months, then forget to solidify the habit and not do it as often for a few months. Thankfully, it seems like I go two steps forward and only one back, so that each time I revert back my baseline is higher. ---
**Author:** ![treeon325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@treeon325](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/treeon325)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 7:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541/110 "2011-10-21T07:56:16Z")
that sounds great! i noticed i was really angry yesterday for no explainable reason. i mean, i was upset about something small,much like you. but it ate at me all day.i dnt feel appreciated at work. a314 is ok,but i think im gonna save that for when i really need it. initially, i thought instant jerk would be a bad idea. but ive found that its a good fit for me,as i tend to be the nice guy.great post… keep updating ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@The\_Hammer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Hammer)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 11:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541/111 "2011-10-21T11:22:47Z")
Try wearing two drops of A314 a day for at least two weeks at work and see if anything changes. ---
**Author:** ![treeon325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@treeon325](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/treeon325)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 1:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541/112 "2011-10-21T13:34:44Z")
now when you say drops, do you mean untwist the top and apply two drops? i have a togo size spray bottle. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 5:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541/113 "2011-10-21T17:39:10Z")
Nope! I see a cross of wires in communications… 🙂 The Hammer is referring to our beloved A314 oil which is applied by drops. The togo is in an alcohol base and would be a drop to spray equivalent… approximately. So if the Hammer says 2 drops, use 2 sprays. Now, the conversation and testing can continue! All is right in the world! 🆒 > [@treeon325](#): > > now when you say drops, do you mean untwist the top and apply two drops? i have a togo size spray bottle. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541/114 "2011-10-21T18:35:37Z")
Except of course depending on which version of the alcohol you have. The 1A is nothing like the original oil IMHO. Its the same amount of mcg but in an alcohol spray where as the oil can last 8-12 hours and slides in undetected the 1A spray lasts about 1-3 hours and smacks them right across the lip. Completely different vibes. In fact I would say the 1A worn in a working environment is grounds for trouble. The oil your boss and co-workers will appreciate you for your leadership abilities and capabilities to work well with others. On the other hand the 1A you get this I am better than anyone in the room. In fact let me just say you are my bitches. I’ll even take it further and say you all suck ass and shouldn’t even have been born, let alone have a job. Not really conducive to working well with others. The 1B is probably 1/3 the strength and while still up front more believable and therefore able to condition the responses to suit the situation. With that said order has now been restored to the force. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain: [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/9/989d772248d4478f96f0e43a0fc2d9a36912358f.jpeg "The Wizard of Oz: Pay No Attention") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZR64EF3OpA) ---
**Author:** ![treeon325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@treeon325](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/treeon325)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541/115 "2011-10-21T21:13:43Z")
thanks steve and 1alpha. im gonna save ‘my precious’ for when i really need it. im gonna test out this taa and p74. can anyone tell me if its equivalent to any of the mx’s? i know its the same molecule, but it smells sooo good(the mx), and i like the effects of 431 and432. also,whats the difference between them if they are all the same’single’ molecule?any suggestions as to how much taa i should spray? i have 5mcg bottle. i dont know what the mcg’s are in the mx bottles. thanks again ---
**Author:** ![raqy101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@raqy101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/raqy101)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 2:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541/116 "2011-10-24T02:26:39Z")
really amazing journal…Thanks for sharing your experiences and keep up the good work ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@The\_Hammer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Hammer)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 2:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541/117 "2011-10-28T02:43:30Z")
I’m nearly 60% sure my coworker uses mones. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 5:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541/118 "2011-10-28T17:53:38Z")
> [@treeon325](#): > > thanks steve and 1alpha. im gonna save ‘my precious’ for when i really need it. im gonna test out this taa and p74. can anyone tell me if its equivalent to any of the mx’s? i know its the same molecule, but it smells sooo good(the mx), and i like the effects of 431 and432. also,whats the difference between them if they are all the same’single’ molecule?any suggestions as to how much taa i should spray? i have 5mcg bottle. i dont know what the mcg’s are in the mx bottles. thanks again Not sure what you mean. [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) and TAA are not the same molecule. TAA is rumored to be the primary molecule of Ishine. The recipes are not released though so how much is in it is unknown to members like ourselves. P74 is not released to be in any mixes, but I would suspect it to be. Which one and what they do, as a researcher is determined by you. ---
**Author:** ![treeon325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@treeon325](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/treeon325)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 5:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541/119 "2011-10-28T17:58:58Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Not sure what you mean. P74 and TAA are not the same molecule. TAA is rumored to be the primary molecule of Ishine. The recipes are not released though so how much is in it is unknown to members like ourselves. P74 is not released to be in any mixes, but I would suspect it to be. Which one and what they do, as a researcher is determined by you. I was talking about the mx’s 432,431. ive read that they both(primarily) contain taa. maybe its just the scent associated wit it? ---
**Author:** ![treeon325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@treeon325](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/treeon325)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 10:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541/120 "2011-10-28T22:32:36Z")
> [@The\_Hammer](#): > > I’m nearly 60% sure my coworker uses mones. what makes u say that? [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541.md?page=5) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/between-two-worlds/41541.md?page=7)