# Big collection, no results yet: which products give self-effects? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 6, 2013, 3:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-collection-no-results-yet-which-products-give-self-effects/59236 "2013-06-06T15:17:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 4
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 6:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-collection-no-results-yet-which-products-give-self-effects/59236/4 "2013-06-08T06:36:11Z")
> [@niko93](#): > > Nobody can help me? You bought the store man.😃 Ok, let’s start somewhere fresh and make sense of this. I think your testing plan may be a little off. You say you’re not seeing results. You should calibrate your perceptions. Let’s try two tests for you: 1. [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/), by itself, 4 sprays to the neck. In some public place. 2. IJ, 1 spray by itself to the neck. Better it should be a cafe or something. It could get a little crazy, so be ready to bolt the scene if people get hostile while you are wearing The Jerk. If you see **nothing** at _two_ sprays, something is very amiss. OD is something, and it is all too common with 10 mcg -eNone and no buffers. You’ve got a ton of product. There needs to be some method to the madness. At the same time, you’ll need to see results and proof mones work, if you are going to make this part of your lifestyle. The two tests I’ve given you are the most **powerful** mones out there. If you see nothing, then there’s something wrong here. You are going to need to test several male products and several buffers to find dosing. I think you may be missing effects or hits. > [@How to Test and Report On Products UPDATED 12/01](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-test-and-report-on-products-updated-12-01/6297): > > (At the bottom of this post I have included a small guide on how to find your sweet spot) It has occurred to me that alot of the new people who have reported have not given detailed reports which is something that is needed by Androtics to make new consumer products. I am guilty of this at times as well. (sorry Jas wink ) I am going to post a outline here so that new people will understand how to report so we can have some more consumer goodies faster. First off when you receive a product a… --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-collection-no-results-yet-which-products-give-self-effects/59236)._