# Big "date" need some advice.

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-date-need-some-advice/30061>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 22, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-date-need-some-advice/30061 "2009-06-22T06:47:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-date-need-some-advice/30061/1 "2009-06-22T06:47:19Z")

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Hey everyone, hope its going well for you!

I have a question, there’s a girl (There’s always one, isn’t there?) whom I’ve known for nearly four years now. We’ve been texting a lot but haven’t been able to hang out because I’ve just recently gotten my car license and haven’t yet been able to purchase insurance for my car.

I’ve known her nearly four years, but in the last, say 4 weeks I’ve broken through mental barriers with her, and physical barriers as well. (As much as you can over text)

She’s a really beautiful gal, and with a brilliant mind as well, so I don’t want to mess things up.

Sexually she’s fairly open, yet when I was able to get closer to her she became much more open and honest with me.

**Setting:** Most likely to her house for a small time to meet her mother, then a typical outing, movie theatre, mall, etc.

Now, about the [pheromones](https://a314.com/). I want to wear something that gives off the boyfriend type, but also the sexual pheromones as well, without coming off as the horndog type.

Mr. Downey JR. has recommended that I carry a TG of TUTH in my pocket to add sexual tension after things are started off, this gives her more comfort and rapport than I would be able to achieve starting right off the bat with -none.

So what are your opinions? I’m looking for masculine, protective, and sexy from my pheromones. I’ve got the body language down. 😉

Thanks in advance, I have the entire public line, as well as some Ptives. (P83,79)

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**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 9:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-date-need-some-advice/30061/2 "2009-06-22T09:03:17Z")

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Bumping before I go to bed. Pretty sure that’s allowed? :eek

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**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 11:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-date-need-some-advice/30061/3 "2009-06-22T11:43:55Z")

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> [@pherophreak](#):
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> Hey everyone, hope its going well for you!
> 
> I have a question, there’s a girl (There’s always one, isn’t there?) whom I’ve known for nearly four years now. We’ve been texting a lot but haven’t been able to hang out because I’ve just recently gotten my car license and haven’t yet been able to purchase insurance for my car.
> 
> I’ve known her nearly four years, but in the last, say 4 weeks I’ve broken through mental barriers with her, and physical barriers as well. (As much as you can over text)
> 
> She’s a really beautiful gal, and with a brilliant mind as well, so I don’t want to mess things up.
> 
> Sexually she’s fairly open, yet when I was able to get closer to her she became much more open and honest with me.
> 
> **Setting:** Most likely to her house for a small time to meet her mother, then a typical outing, movie theatre, mall, etc.
> 
> Now, about the pheromones. I want to wear something that gives off the boyfriend type, but also the sexual pheromones as well, without coming off as the horndog type.
> 
> Mr. Downey JR. has recommended that I carry a TG of TUTH in my pocket to add sexual tension after things are started off, this gives her more comfort and rapport than I would be able to achieve starting right off the bat with -none.
> 
> So what are your opinions? I’m looking for masculine, protective, and sexy from my pheromones. I’ve got the body language down. 😉
> 
> Thanks in advance, I have the entire public line, as well as some Ptives. (P83,79)

wow 4 years that’s awesome man, i read somewhere that you’ve got 7 hours to be physical with a woman before she puts you in the friend zone.

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**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 11:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-date-need-some-advice/30061/4 "2009-06-22T11:55:17Z")

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Hey phreak.

ammo, shine and IH to your own tested levels. then 1-2 shots TUTH later on 😉. Not sure how you get on with A314 but I never first date without it!

Have fun

Mr Downey Jr

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**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 12:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-date-need-some-advice/30061/5 "2009-06-22T12:27:10Z")

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> [@diamond](#):
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> Hey phreak.
> 
> ammo, shine and IH to your own tested levels. then 1-2 shots TUTH later on 😉. Not sure how you get on with A314 but I never first date without it!
> 
> Have fun
> 
> Mr Downey Jr

Yupp, the tried-and-true approach suggested by diamond is what I’d suggest, too. Good luck and have fun! 🙂

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**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 12:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-date-need-some-advice/30061/6 "2009-06-27T00:50:19Z")

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Thanks Bob, Diamond. I’ll be sure to try that out. I was really leaning towards a similar combo myself actually, so thanks for confirming my beliefs! 😃

What about the addition of IFM? Any thoughts?

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**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 12:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-date-need-some-advice/30061/7 "2009-06-27T00:52:44Z")

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> [@meow333x](#):
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> wow 4 years that’s awesome man, i read somewhere that you’ve got 7 hours to be physical with a woman before she puts you in the friend zone.

I believe Mystery said the thing about 7 hours.

Normally I’d agree, but I’ve mentally and physically improved quite a bit recently. A different state of mind, and outlook on life really can do a lot to change others opinions of you. Androtics had a lot to do with this.

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 3:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-date-need-some-advice/30061/8 "2009-06-27T03:19:46Z")

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What about MX292, IFM if you have it (although I never tried it but the setting sounds right for it,) Beta Androstenol (IH,) and maybe some sprays of IS with an extra spray or two after the first sprays have died/lost effect.

> [@pherophreak](#):
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> Thanks Bob, Diamond. I’ll be sure to try that out. I was really leaning towards a similar combo myself actually, so thanks for confirming my beliefs! 😃
> 
> What about the addition of IFM? Any thoughts?

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**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-date-need-some-advice/30061/9 "2009-06-27T03:34:23Z")

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> [@mikotorocks714](#):
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> What about MX292, IFM if you have it (although I never tried it but the setting sounds right for it,) Beta Androstenol (IH,) and maybe some sprays of IS with an extra spray or two after the first sprays have died/lost effect.

I have both IFM and Mx292, but the 292 never really quite seemed to do it for me. I dont know what it is but it came off as weak and I wasn’t awed by it like others.

I may add a spray of A1 to the mix, maybe.

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**Author:** ![Domnk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/domnk/32/2269_2.png) [@Domnk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Domnk)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 5:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-date-need-some-advice/30061/10 "2009-06-27T05:44:34Z")

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> [@pherophreak](#):
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> I want to wear something that gives off the boyfriend type, but also the sexual pheromones as well, without coming off as the horndog type.

> [@pherophreak](#):
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> I’m looking for **masculine, protective, and sexy** from my pheromones.

Sounds to me like [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) 🙄

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 6:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-date-need-some-advice/30061/11 "2009-06-27T06:45:35Z")

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Ah, then AMMO it is. Just like dear diamond mentioned, with its touch of good old Androsterone for that respect comforting vibe women love. Plus, the IFM will help if either one of them are, um, you know like having PMS crankiness. You want everything to go right!

> [@pherophreak](#):
>
> I have both IFM and Mx292, but the 292 never really quite seemed to do it for me. I dont know what it is but it came off as weak and I wasn’t awed by it like others.
> 
> I may add a spray of A1 to the mix, maybe.

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**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-date-need-some-advice/30061/12 "2009-07-02T13:38:09Z")

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Well, todays the day. We’re going to meet up at noon to go play pool at a local pool hall, then back to my house for food and a movie.

Wish me luck, I’ll report on how things go!

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**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-date-need-some-advice/30061/13 "2009-07-02T18:12:54Z")

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> [@pherophreak](#):
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> Well, todays the day. We’re going to meet up at noon to go play pool at a local pool hall, then back to my house for food and a movie.
> 
> Wish me luck, I’ll report on how things go!

good luck man, looking forward to the report

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-date-need-some-advice/30061/14 "2009-07-02T18:20:52Z")

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Been away but best of luck to yah

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**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 7:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-date-need-some-advice/30061/15 "2009-07-02T19:22:07Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> Been away but best of luck to yah

Well, its 2pm now and life decided to throw me a shit sandwich. At 10am I got called to work, it was a “come save my ass or ELSE” type of thing, so I had to go. I only worked until 12, so I didn’t even tell her, but as I got off work I found two brand new flat tires, Awesome. Oh, and she never bothered to call.

Oh well, I’ve had a new motto for the last few months, no worries.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-date-need-some-advice/30061/16 "2009-07-02T23:10:15Z")

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> [@pherophreak](#):
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> Oh well, I’ve had a new motto for the last few months, no worries.

No worries tells the Universe to open up a world of worries. Instead try good vibes or good times and the Universe will open up good times 😛

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**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-date-need-some-advice/30061/17 "2009-07-02T23:28:03Z")

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It wound up being a rather impromptu get together. Picked her up at 4:20 and she had to be at work at 6. We went to the pool hall and played a few games of pool. I could see the mones doing their thing, she wasn’t being as shy or reserved as usual. Unfortunatley we didn’t make it to my house, but it went really well so I’m sure there will be another time.

Oh, and I got a 3rd flat tire, I’m at the tire shop now. I wonder who I pissed off.

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**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2009, 11:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-date-need-some-advice/30061/18 "2009-07-03T23:07:15Z")

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I suppose some good came of it. I invited her to my place for a small 4th party and she happily agreed.

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**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 6:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-date-need-some-advice/30061/19 "2009-07-04T06:15:07Z")

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Im going to wear the following:

1 Spray IHx2  
2 drops Alpha314  
.5 spray A1/30mcg spray  
2 Spray ammo  
1 Spray ISx2

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**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 1:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-date-need-some-advice/30061/20 "2009-07-05T01:26:15Z")

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> [@pherophreak](#):
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> Im going to wear the following:
> 
> 1 Spray IHx2  
> 2 drops Alpha314  
> .5 spray A1/30mcg spray  
> 2 Spray ammo  
> 1 Spray ISx2

Well, it went south again. She lives with her mom, her mom is bi-polar. Her mom decided to get pissed off and not let her come to the barbeque. Oh well.
