# Big hello from England! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [September 20, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-hello-from-england/32648 "2009-09-20T22:09:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![minty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f14d63/32.png) [@minty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/minty)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-hello-from-england/32648/1 "2009-09-20T22:09:36Z")
Hello all, I’m Minty, a 19 year old uni student in the UK. Ever since I first heard about [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) a few weeks back, I’ve been fascinated - reading everything I can find about the different types, then finally biting the bullet and ordering!😮 Any advice about particular pheromones I should go for next, and/or how I should use the ones I’ve already got would be greatly appreciated. To let you know a little about myself and my motivations: 1. Firstly, I’ve managed to get myself into a bit of a rut at uni. Being in the minority as a girl studying maths, I felt a bit intimidated so took on a pseudo-male persona in my first year. I managed to become ‘one of the boys’ which has definitely had its advantages. The downside, however, is that **most guys just aren’t interested in me romantically**! LOL Guys seem really comfortable around me and often want to spend a lot of time with me, but it’s always clear that we’re _mates_, it’s as though I’m not a girl anymore! And the real problem is that I don’t really remember how to ‘go back’ to the softer, more feminine person I was before I started uni.☹ So, I’m really hoping to find a pheromone mix which makes me seem more ‘girly’. I’m attracted to dominant guys who almost like to ‘protect’ the girl they’re with - so I need something that gets attention from these types of guys. From what I’ve gathered from these forums, this probably means I should avoid products containing androstenone and err more towards things with TAH or EST? I’ve ordered some IS/b to go as a starting point (before I get adventurous and start mixing things myself!🙄). Any pointers about what I should be doing would really be appreciated! 1. Next up - invisibility. I’m a pretty shy person which I think comes across a lot in my body language (which I’m working on!) as well as my personality. With my friends I’m okay, but with more unfamiliar people (especially in crowded places) sometimes I’m not seen at all! I’m often pushed out of the way or trod on. It’s not done maliciously, **people just don’t realise I’m there**! I’ve ordered some MX135, since I’ve seen a few users mention it got them some attention. Do you think this will help me a bit? I don’t need to be the centre of attention, but it would be nice to be noticed a little more! I know I can’t expect the mones to do everything… a good friend of mine has really been helping me build up my confidence and I’m noticing improvement. A little pheromone-boost (even if it mainly comes from self-effects) would be great, though! Any and all suggestions welcomed! 1. Aaaand finally: shyness. Social situations (even with people I really like) make me really anxious and I struggle to relax and really over analyse my own behaviour and the responses of others. This used to be _really_ bad when I was younger, but with CBT I’ve improved a lot. Still, I feel this awkwardness hampers me and prevents me from enjoying life and my relationships to the fullest! I suspected an androstenol-heavy product might help me here, so I ordered some PI/w off of eBay. This is the only one of my mones which has arrived so far and I’ve been absolutely delighted with the _self_-effects. I’ve even taken to putting a dab on my upper lip before meeting up with people, as it really does seem to make me feel more comfortable and happy around people. I’ve noticed that close friends don’t seem to react to it very much at all, I think I read somewhere that people you know are less sensitive to changes in your chemical sig or something? But anyhow, in enclosed spaces (such as the tube and buses) I’ve noticed increased friendliness from strangers. In more open spaces I haven’t really noticed much of a response at all, but I expect that has something to do with PI being oil based and thus not so good at diffusion? So any recommendations for social-lubricator mones would be incredibly helpful! To briefly describe myself: I’m about 5"5 with dark skin, brown eyes and shoulder-length wavy black hair. I’m slim and hour-glass shaped, but squidgy since I don’t exercise much!:o I’m not drop-dead gorgeous or anything, but I’m attractive enough and am happy with how I look.🙂 Relationship history: Well the guys interested in me have tended to be more shy/submissive type and it’s never really felt right for me since I’d really prefer to be the more submissive person in the relationship. I think I scare most of the alpha-males off with my macho-ness! A few have tried to ‘tame’ me, for want of a better word, lol. But I seem to self sabotage and find it really difficult to _let_ myself be softer and more feminine. Bah. Basically, I need some chemical help LOL.😉 Whew, I had a lot to say! Thanks so much for reading, if you’ve stuck with my ramblings this far. Any and all advice will be hugely appreciated! I’m looking forward to posting more on these boards and hopefully getting to know a few people here!🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-hello-from-england/32648/2 "2009-09-20T23:08:53Z")
> [@minty](#): > > Firstly, I’ve managed to get myself into a bit of a rut at uni. Being in the minority as a girl studying maths, I felt a bit intimidated so took on a pseudo-male persona in my first year. I managed to become ‘one of the boys’ which has definitely had its advantages. The downside, however, is that **most guys just aren’t interested in me romantically**! First off, this is quite an introduction, Minty. 🙂 Welcome to Pherotalk. We’ll help you out anyway that we can, so first off, you need [Instant Sexiness B](https://phera.com/product/kitten/), commonly abbreviated to IS/B, or just ‘B’. I see you’ve already got it. Where A is supposed to give you the tough alpha woman vibe that you’ve been trying to project throughout your first year, it’s clear that doesn’t really suit you. B is more kittenish, girly-girl, protect me. Marilyn Monroe as opposed to Angelina Jolie. > [@](#): > > So, I’m really hoping to find a pheromone mix which makes me seem more ‘girly’. I’m attracted to dominant guys who almost like to ‘protect’ the girl they’re with - so I need something that gets attention from these types of guys. You could try copulins, something that only women produce in low levels throughout their cycle, but production really ramps up at the time of ovulation. Unfortunately, Androtics is not producing copulins at the moment, but you can get it from Love Scent, and it’s called Essence of Woman. That will certainly get the guys’ attention and provoke all kinds of weird behaviour from them: peacocking, possessiveness and protect-my-mate behaviours, strutting around etc. They will definitely be interested in you romantically after they catch the scent of it on you. > [@](#): > > From what I’ve gathered from these forums, this probably means I should avoid products containing androstenone and err more towards things with TAH or EST? You can try EST, but that is an advanced product and is a pheromone produced in abundance by pregnant women. Think carefully before you get that one, or you’ll get people saying you have ‘the glow’ of an expectant mother. 🙂😉 > [@](#): > > Next up - invisibility. I’m a pretty shy person which I think comes across a lot in my body language (which I’m working on!) as well as my personality. With my friends I’m okay, but with more unfamiliar people (especially in crowded places) sometimes I’m not seen at all! I’m often pushed out of the way or trod on. It’s not done maliciously, **people just don’t realise I’m there**! Maybe IS/A would do you some good. It’s up to you to steer the pheromones, so your personality might dampen IS/A down a bit, but still keep a little of the ‘Don’t mess with me’ vibe it gives off. > [@](#): > > I’ve ordered some MX135, since I’ve seen a few users mention it got them some attention. Do you think this will help me a bit? The ladies can help you out on that one. MX135 is not one I’m familiar with. > [@](#): > > Aaaand finally: shyness. Social situations (even with people I really like) make me really anxious and I struggle to relax and really over analyse my own behaviour and the responses of others. A common problem. 🙂 Shine, Honesty (x4 strength is good for a giggle), Openness. All of those will help you relax and go with the flow. They might even help with the invisibility, since all eyes will be on the star of the show - you. > [@](#): > > I’ve noticed that close friends don’t seem to react to it very much at all, I think I read somewhere that people you know are less sensitive to changes in your chemical sig or something? Precisely. People who know you well have you pegged as a known quantity. It takes prolonged exposure for them to slowly change and it’s like turning an oil tanker at sea. Sllllllloooooowwwwwww! > [@](#): > > But anyhow, in enclosed spaces (such as the tube and buses) I’ve noticed increased friendliness from strangers. In more open spaces I haven’t really noticed much of a response at all, but I expect that has something to do with PI being oil based and thus not so good at diffusion? Oil-based pheromones don’t diffuse as readily, but they last longer. Welcome to the forums, Minty. The women will be happy to help you out in the female section. Make yourself at home. Musk ---
**Author:** ![Mco-gnv](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mco-gnv/32/229_2.png) [@Mco-gnv](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mco-gnv)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2009, 11:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-hello-from-england/32648/3 "2009-09-20T23:35:58Z")
Hi minty welcome to the forum! I believe mx135 is heralded by the female here as gold, from what I am aware of, it gets you more noticed. some of the ladies will drop by and give you some pointers. But I am going to have to agree with Musk Cloud, IS/A will definitely get you more noticed and give you off a more sexual vibe. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) will be worth its weight in gold to you i think- it makes people very talkative and makes you more approachable. Shine is amazing too, people will love to be around you, and hey wont know why! If you have any more questions let us know, we will be glad to help! Best of luck minty! ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2009, 11:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-hello-from-england/32648/4 "2009-09-20T23:36:27Z")
Hey, welcome! Wow, all I can say is that Musk nailed it. He gave you good explanations so all I can say now is welcome! ---
**Author:** ![minty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f14d63/32.png) [@minty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/minty)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 8:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-hello-from-england/32648/5 "2009-09-21T08:53:42Z")
Thanks for the replies and the wonderful welcome, everyone! > [@MuskCloud](#): > > First off, this is quite an introduction, Minty. Welcome to Pherotalk. We’ll help you out anyway that we can, so first off, you need Instant Sexiness B, commonly abbreviated to IS/B, or just ‘B’. I see you’ve already got it. > > Where A is supposed to give you the tough alpha woman vibe that you’ve been trying to project throughout your first year, it’s clear that doesn’t really suit you. > > B is more kittenish, girly-girl, protect me. Marilyn Monroe as opposed to Angelina Jolie. LOL sorry about the length; I tend to ramble a lot!😛 Well I’m feeling much more confident in my IS/B choice now (which just arrived this morning!😃), kittenish and girly-girl are definitely the direction I want to go in. > [@](#): > > You could try copulins, something that only women produce in low levels throughout their cycle, but production really ramps up at the time of ovulation. Hmm I hadn’t even thought of copulins before tbh. But from what you say they sound like I good idea. Besides a bottle of EOW seems to retail for around £15 which I can pretty much stretch to as a student lol.😉 I think I’ll get ordering and check out that women’s thread about how to mask the smell hehe. Thanks for that advice! > [@](#): > > You can try EST , but that is an advanced product and is a pheromone produced in abundance by pregnant women. Think carefully before you get that one, or you’ll get people saying you have ‘the glow’ of an expectant mother. LOL not so sure about givng off that kind of an aura! I think I’ll take note that it’s **advanced** and stick to playing with my shiny new toys for now.😃 > [@](#): > > Maybe IS/A would do you some good. It’s up to you to steer the pheromones, so your personality might dampen IS/A down a bit, but still keep a little of the ‘Don’t mess with me’ vibe it gives off. Ahh I hadn’t thought of this! I’d just figured it’d be best to stay clear of any alpha-female vibes, but the increased ‘presence’ would definitely help me out a lot. I’ll definitely be adding a IS/A to go to my next androtics order! > [@](#): > > A common problem. Shine, Honesty (x4 strength is good for a giggle), Openness. All of those will help you relax and go with the flow. They might even help with the invisibility, since all eyes will be on the star of the show - you. Okay - I’ll give this mix a try. I’ve no idea why I didn’t just include IS in my first order anyway..🙄 My order came with a free sample of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) (!!!) which I’m excited to try, can’t wait to grab some IH to throw into the mix too. Thanks a lot for this recommendation! > [@](#): > > Precisely. People who know you well have you pegged as a known quantity. It takes prolonged exposure for them to slowly change and it’s like turning an oil tanker at sea. Sllllllloooooowwwwwww! LOL, I guess I’ll just have to give them some more time. I’m wondering what’ll happen with the people I haven’t seen for ages though. This Sunday I’ll be returning to uni after a three-month-long summer (!!) and there are a few people who I know well but wasn’t able to see over the vacation. Will the lengthy separation mean they’ll be more responsive to the pheromones on me? Or will the fact that they’d already known me pretty well before mean it doesn’t really affect them? Ah well, Sunday’s not too far off - I should probably just wait and see xD. > [@](#): > > Welcome to the forums, Minty. The women will be happy to help you out in the female section. Make yourself at home. Thanks again for the wonderful welcome and all of those thoughtful answers, Musk. This forum seems like a great place to be! > [@Mco-gnv](#): > > Hi minty welcome to the forum! > > I believe mx135 is heralded by the female here as gold, from what I am aware of, it gets you more noticed. some of the ladies will drop by and give you some pointers. > > But I am going to have to agree with Musk Cloud, IS/A will definitely get you more noticed and give you off a more sexual vibe. Instant Openness will be worth its weight in gold to you i think- it makes people very talkative and makes you more approachable. Shine is amazing too, people will love to be around you, and hey wont know why! > > If you have any more questions let us know, we will be glad to help! Best of luck minty! Hi Mco-gnv, thank you for the welcome!🙂 I’m lucky to have received an IO sample with my order, so I’ll definitely try it out! I think you’re right; being more approachable will help me out a lot. Plus if it has a talkative effect on my too that would be great! Shine and IS/A will be ordered too - I’m really going to put that gift voucher to good use! Thanks for your informative answer - I’ll definitely be back when more questions arise! > [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Hey, welcome! Wow, all I can say is that Musk nailed it. He gave you good explanations so all I can say now is welcome! Heya Mikotorocks! Yep, I was certainly lucky with my responses from Musk and Mco-gnv… I’ve got a lot to think about and mess around with now. Thank you for the welcome! I’m really looking forward to getting involved here!😃 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 6:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/big-hello-from-england/32648/6 "2009-09-21T18:09:57Z")
Hello and welcome to PheroTalk. I am so happy you were able to discover this most amazing community. We consider each other like family here and are totally committed to helping each other out. There are so many great people here and now another too 🙂. Currently we are in the process of seeking out an additional forum host or two to help with the upkeep of the forum. With that in mind I have already had your GC issued to your email inbox. I would love to be able to personally respond to every new user signing on, but because I want to ensure you get the GC in time I can only reply with this message at this time. I’m sure you are anxious to get started, just like the rest of us were too 🙂. Its cool! Of course I am available to answer any question you might have regarding mones selection by calling me personally on the hotline. Please select extension one and I will be able to consult you one on one. Welcome to the forum.