# Black Phoenix Alchemy Lab (BPAL) **URL:** \ **Category:** Parfum / Fragrance\ **Created:** [January 13, 2007, 5:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/black-phoenix-alchemy-lab-bpal/1546 "2007-01-13T05:38:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![alseides](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alseides/32/1039_2.png) [@alseides](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alseides)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2007, 11:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/black-phoenix-alchemy-lab-bpal/1546/41 "2007-03-01T23:53:26Z")
Ail, do you have any experience with Twilight Alchemy Lab oils, or just BPAL? ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2007, 9:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/black-phoenix-alchemy-lab-bpal/1546/42 "2007-03-18T09:54:27Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > Forest said it’s a general attractant, i.e. it doesn’t have an individual vibe. She said to expect to get more attention. Now the magick aspect is that while applying you focus on what it is (type of person) that you want to attract. > > I would say it’s been working better for a targeted attention. One of my targets are asian women. Although I have had few asian girlfriends, I have a real hard time attracting them. Pheromones haven’t been much help in targeting asians and haven’t found a consistently working mix. > > So I tried using BGOL. Now the times I have tried it with “asian focus” I have found myself among asians a lot, like being invited to an asian rock concert (by an asian guy acquiantance), or a chinese celebration, or being in starbucks and finding seats near a group of japanese females. These cannot be called hits (maybe except the first one). I think it might be the magical aspcet of it, who knows. > > Conventional hits have been one of my asian friend mentioning to me that her friends think I am very manly and handsome. One asian girl froze in her tracks and turned to look at me. More eye contact in the library and bus stops (asian girls rarely make any eye contact with me). > > Another time a caucasian girl gave me a full mouthed smile with lingering eye contact, which was very reminiscent of a -none, ovulation combo hit. But a bit unexpected as I had again focused on asians while applying. > > So, frankly I don’t think it’s a dud! It will last me a very long time considering how little I apply. I put it in a roller bottle and just touch the tip. Bull, is BGOL (Twilight Alchemy Lab’s ‘Blinding Glory of Love’) still working so well for you - anything else to report on it? Also have you tried any of the ‘Love Potion Perfumes’ in Ail’s Letting you into ANOTHER of my “Secret” perfume secrets.. thread in the ladies section of the forum and how do they compare to this? I hear that the forum at [BPAL Madness! (Powered by Invision Power Board)](http://www.bpal.org) is actually much more detailed (doesn’t contain just ‘reviews’ threads) if you actually sign up and log in so I may have to do just that and do a little ‘data mining’ on the Twilight Alchemy Lab products… Visionary ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2007, 4:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/black-phoenix-alchemy-lab-bpal/1546/43 "2007-03-18T16:04:44Z")
> [@Socrates](#): > > Bull, > is BGOL (Twilight Alchemy Lab’s ‘Blinding Glory of Love’) still working so well for you - anything else to report on it? > Also have you tried any of the ‘Love Potion Perfumes’ in Ail’s Letting you into ANOTHER of my “Secret” perfume secrets.. thread in the ladies section of the forum and how do they compare to this? > I hear that the forum at [BPAL Madness! (Powered by Invision Power Board)](http://www.bpal.org) is actually much more detailed (doesn’t contain just ‘reviews’ threads) if you actually sign up and log in so I may have to do just that and do a little ‘data mining’ on the Twilight Alchemy Lab products… > > Visionary Ah yes, I did buy the Excalibur potion. One outstanding hit on the first day of trial but nothing much after that. But it does smell better and much more wearable than BGOL. So currently I am using less BGOL, it’s too much of a hassle. Most of the times I am with people I know and don’t want to get a bad rep for smell. I have tried combining BGOL with pheromones without success so far. Also I registered at BPAL. There is ton of info but mostly from women so it wasn’t much help, atleast for me. I also bought ‘Ruthvah’ recently. That smells “royal”, but no hits. Some avoidance later in the day (bigger personal space), though. Maybe the civet note leaking through! ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 9:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/black-phoenix-alchemy-lab-bpal/1546/44 "2007-03-27T09:41:19Z")
Twilight Alchemy Lab’s ‘Caliph’s Beloved’ should definitely another one to try… And our own lovely Alseides (I think?) has popped up on their forum… And if an Androtics user says its good it must be right up there with quality pheromones 🙂… take a look at the other posts in that thread on the BPAL forum as well - all positive except for one allergic reaction. I wonder how this would work when worn on a man?🆒 [alchemylab: Reviews](http://community.livejournal.com/alchemylab/4623043.html#cutid1) [OpenDNS](http://slave1): " **CALIPH’S BELOVED** : TAL _Stimulates your own sexual energy and incites intense feelings of passion and desire._ In Bottle: Plastic and wood On Skin: Wow, at first it smelled like a toy stright out of the packaging, pure plastic. After it develops on my skin, I get cinnamon, sweet and spicy. It’s also quite musky, it’s actually kind of sexy. There is a very sweet powdery note in the background. I get a similar feeling to Bengal (honey and spice) but much stronger in the spice department. I also feel like ther’s a very faint floral note, maybe tearose? I like the feeling it gives, but I can’t inhale too deeply because the cinnamon is quite overpowering and I actually really dislike cinnamon scents. But if I just left it waft by my nose, or get a slight whiff of it, it’s perfect. And yes, it actaully speeds my heart up and makes me feel a little flushed. 🙂" [Caliph’s Beloved - BPAL Madness!](http://www.bpal.org/index.php?showtopic=21252&pid=739896&st=0) abejita: "The scent: Cinnamon, musk, possibly clove, and something a little sweet. Though I didn’t break out my decant of La Flamme to sniff test, it definitely reminds me of that scent, minus the citrus. Very pleasant. As always with cinnamon, be careful. I have sensitive skin, but this didn’t seem to leave anything more than a very faint redness that went away quickly-- and I did apply heavily. The effect: I chose to use this because Sexual Energy triggers a big allergic reaction, and Caliph’s Beloved has that bit in its description about stimulating your own energy. After a very stressful week (hell, month) of twelve-hour days of training and classes, plus my chronic illness, my libido was shot to hell. Non-existent. I applied the oil to my wrists, neck, heart, and a tiny bit on my belly, then concentrated on things of an erotic nature. Right away, I felt a buildup of intense warmth concentrated in my diaphragm/solar plexus area, where no oil had been applied. It was a pleasant, interesting sensation, totally unexpected. I have never had the feeling of my energies being stirred up in quite that way. I woke my partner up and the rest of the evening was a stunning success. The verdict: Wonderful. When my decant is gone, I may very well purchase a full bottle. I felt glow-y for a long time after, too." Alseides: "Wow, does this stuff work. I applied some to my base chakra, throat, and heart and rubbed the residue on my wrists about five minutes ago, and already I’m getting butterflies in my stomach. In me, it seems to be inducing a dizzying sort of lustfulness, one where all your inhibitions are gone and it’s a smoldering, seductive passion blossoming in their place. This may be due to the cinnamon-y note that I’m smelling. Hot, indeed. (IMG: **style\_emoticons/default/icon\_wink.gif** ([http://www.bpal.org/style\_emoticons/default/icon\_wink.gif](http://www.bpal.org/style_emoticons/default/icon_wink.gif))) I have said many a time that patchouli does not work on me, and that I despise it, and I do. Luckily, there are other notes in this scent-wise that seem to keep it from going to hell on me. But then again, this isn’t meant for use as a perfume. I must emphasize the DIZZYING part, though that may be due to a sniff of White Light before applying this - I feel… not tired, but my head is in the clouds, so to speak. That said, Caliph’s Beloved definitely delivers. I have yet to see if it intensifies over time… ETA: It does. It even disrupted my sleep. In the best possible way, of course. (IMG: **style\_emoticons/default/happy.gif** ([http://www.bpal.org/style\_emoticons/default/happy.gif](http://www.bpal.org/style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)))" ---
**Author:** ![alseides](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alseides/32/1039_2.png) [@alseides](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alseides)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/black-phoenix-alchemy-lab-bpal/1546/45 "2007-04-05T17:25:00Z")
😃 Indeed, the TAL Alseides and Pherotalk Alseides are the very same! I loved Caliph’s Beloved. It’s all there in my review really. I’m sad to say I misplaced my bottle, and have to go get another, though… In the meantime, I put up a review for Charisma too. That is an oil I think EVERYONE ought to own. _“This is a powerful attraction and advancement blend. It aids in polishing and magnifying your best qualities, while downplaying your flaws. Increases charm and wit, and helps you shine in a crowd. Wear a drop on each chakra point.”_ I don’t think I will ever be without the stuff. I haven’t noticed any increase in charm and wit, but good lord, it does get you noticed, and instead of downplaying my flaws I forget all about them. A definite must-have for any bad day, in my opinion. I have about ten other oils in my arsenal, but one of interest to you guys would probably be Sexual Energy: _" A mood-enhancer. Wear prior to sexual encounters to increase vitality, stamina and to intensify desire."_ That, too, has delivered on its promise. I don’t know that I’d call it a mood _enhancer_ so much as a mood _evoker_, though. I don’t want to get graphic here, but I wore the stuff to see my guy. And after going at it **five** times over the course of a day… BUY THIS STUFF. I adore these oils. Can you tell? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![alseides](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alseides/32/1039_2.png) [@alseides](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alseides)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/black-phoenix-alchemy-lab-bpal/1546/46 "2007-04-05T19:46:13Z")
(x3 nevermind, previous post popped up again) ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2007, 9:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/black-phoenix-alchemy-lab-bpal/1546/47 "2007-04-06T09:14:55Z")
I havnt tried those 2 yet they sound good so I will add them to my next order. I just got “Fae” which is a really nice spring scent. I also love “Eat me” and “Vibe” . There sample bottles are so tiny but they last for about maybe 5 applications for me. Its enough to get a feel for the scent so you know if it works on you. So far all the scents I have tried last a long time on the skin but they dont diffuse very well so others dont notice unless you get really close to them. I tend to like scents for myself but I like it when they can be smelt by others without sticking my wrist in there face and saying smell this. LOL Alseides any tips for diffusion ? Tisha ---
**Author:** ![alseides](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alseides/32/1039_2.png) [@alseides](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alseides)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2007, 2:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/black-phoenix-alchemy-lab-bpal/1546/48 "2007-04-06T14:09:19Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I havnt tried those 2 yet they sound good so I will add them to my next order. I just got “Fae” which is a really nice spring scent. I also love “Eat me” and “Vibe” . There sample bottles are so tiny but they last for about maybe 5 applications for me. Its enough to get a feel for the scent so you know if it works on you. So far all the scents I have tried last a long time on the skin but they dont diffuse very well so others dont notice unless you get really close to them. I tend to like scents for myself but I like it when they can be smelt by others without sticking my wrist in there face and saying smell this. LOL > > Alseides any tips for diffusion ? > > Tisha I actually was wondering the same thing. Some scents seem to have a very strong throw, while others disappear off the skin within the hour. Hm.. On the forums, [bpal.org](http://bpal.org), there’s a thread for the scents with strong throw, so that’d probably be your best bet. ---
**Author:** ![PaganFire](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paganfire/32/743_2.png) [@PaganFire](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PaganFire)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 3:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/black-phoenix-alchemy-lab-bpal/1546/49 "2007-09-20T03:31:19Z")
Ah, Yay! I **love** [blackphoenixalchemylab.com](http://blackphoenixalchemylab.com) ! They toss in a free-be {or ten} once in awhile, too 😉 Good oils to use for scent. PaganFire ---
**Author:** ![Pythia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pythia/32/222_2.png) [@Pythia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pythia)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/black-phoenix-alchemy-lab-bpal/1546/50 "2008-02-04T03:10:32Z")
> [@Domingo](#): > > Yeah sure, in any reasonable amount it’s great. But after reading the reviews of this stuff I get the impression that after a while the only thing that people smell is the civet, and that is NOT a good thing, imo. Civit, in generous amounts smells EXACTLY like s\*\*\*.😮 ---
**Author:** ![Pythia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pythia/32/222_2.png) [@Pythia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pythia)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2008, 6:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/black-phoenix-alchemy-lab-bpal/1546/51 "2008-02-10T18:48:52Z")
> [@Socrates](#): > > Yea you may be right about that but from all a lot of the reviews on there, it seems that their Civet is not particularly funky smelling - may be to do with people’s individual skin chemistries though. Plus even if it stinks a little after a while, there may still be good pheromone-like effects. Look at NPA/The Edge - they definitely stink but have powerful pheromone effects. A little animalistic ‘stink’ may be useful in some situations. > > I am thinking a good masculine blend like ‘Master’ or ‘Lord of the Forest’ may be a good match with a ‘weaker male phero’ mix such as Alpha and Beta-Nols with TAA and a little A314. It might be far better in social situations than adding say Androstenone. > > Another one that caught my eye is a BPAL scent called ‘O’: ‘The scent of sexual obsession, slavery to sensual pleasure, and the undercurrent of innocence defiled utterly. Amber and honey with a touch of Vanilla.’ > > It does not sound very masculine but a few of the reviews caught my eye. For example: [O - BPAL Madness!](http://www.bpal.org/index.php?showtopic=521) > Ms.MsGirl: ‘…This scent is PURE SEX on its own or layered with virtually any floral or fruity fragrance – it’s just an undertone of pure sex. I almost expect the oil itself to be sticky like honey, it has a sticky smell – someone else was right, it’s almost the exact smell of sweaty sticky bodies entwined after the sweetest sex imaginable. It smells like I WISH my skin smelled…’ > > Another good review site for BPAL is [http://makeupalley.com/product/searching.asp?x=y&CategoryID=0&brandname=&brand=1360&title=&GO.x=11&GO.y=14](http://makeupalley.com/product/searching.asp?x=y&CategoryID=0&brandname=&brand=1360&title=&GO.x=11&GO.y=14) > > Hey RON or Alseides, is there any guide for learning ‘rituals’ in order to get the Twilight Alchemy Lab stuff to work properly? I have got no clue in this area. Ail would have been a good one for this if she was still around (being a practicing witch). > > Visionary I LOVE “O”. It has been described as “sex in a bottle.” ---
**Author:** ![Pythia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pythia/32/222_2.png) [@Pythia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pythia)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2008, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/black-phoenix-alchemy-lab-bpal/1546/52 "2008-02-10T18:51:56Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > Carrie, I couldn’t find the oil “blinding glory of love” from a search on their website. I found it however from a google search at [www.twilightalchemylab.com](http://www.twilightalchemylab.com) > > I don’t know if they are the same, but I couldn’t find a way to order at the second website. It says it accepts paypal, but how will it know which product I intend to buy. Maybe I am missing something here. You note your chosen product on the “message” space in the Paypal payment email. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 3:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/black-phoenix-alchemy-lab-bpal/1546/53 "2008-02-11T15:11:35Z")
> [@Pythia](#): > > You note your chosen product on the “message” space in the Paypal payment email. You know Pythia, that’s actually a very old message.😛 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Pythia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pythia/32/222_2.png) [@Pythia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pythia)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/black-phoenix-alchemy-lab-bpal/1546/54 "2008-02-11T18:45:24Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > You know Pythia, that’s actually a very old message.😛 😃 You mean this isn’t 1983?😮 😕 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 7:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/black-phoenix-alchemy-lab-bpal/1546/55 "2008-02-11T19:34:40Z")
This thread seems to have died out somewhat. So, I will ask the questions from the guys perspective: What is the final take on the following: Blinding Glory of Love (BGOL)? Caliph’s Beloved? Lord of the Forest? Bend Over? ---
**Author:** ![Pythia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pythia/32/222_2.png) [@Pythia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pythia)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 8:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/black-phoenix-alchemy-lab-bpal/1546/56 "2008-02-11T20:20:21Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > This thread seems to have died out somewhat. > > So, I will ask the questions from the guys perspective: > > What is the final take on the following: > > Blinding Glory of Love (BGOL)? > > Caliph’s Beloved? > > Lord of the Forest? > > Bend Over? I haven’t done that well with Blinding Glory. I haven’t tried the others you listed. But, a lot of people SWEAR by it-- mostly women. If I were you, I’d join their forum, and read the reviews from people who use TAL more than I do. The TAL thread is on the BPAL forum. My fave TAL is Anthelion, which some folks call “Valium in a bottle.” 🙂 I’d check out the Lord of the Forest reviews. Some of those other scents might be too feminine for you. BTW-- The sexiest thing I’ve ever smelled for WOMEN is still Snake Oil. For men, Cerberus (tobacco, chocolate, some other good stuff.) I think Snake Oil is still Beth’s signature scent. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 10:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/black-phoenix-alchemy-lab-bpal/1546/57 "2008-02-11T22:24:31Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > This thread seems to have died out somewhat. > > So, I will ask the questions from the guys perspective: > > What is the final take on the following: > > Blinding Glory of Love (BGOL)? > > Caliph’s Beloved? > > Lord of the Forest? > > Bend Over? Hey Bosshank, I only tried BGOL and I stand by my earlier review of the product. Due to it’s smell it’s not easily usable by men. However it seems to be doing something when charged with intent, just not as strongly as advertised. It’s only a curiosity at this point of what I can get out of it but definitely don’t expect too much. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 8:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/black-phoenix-alchemy-lab-bpal/1546/58 "2008-02-12T08:45:11Z")
Bosshank in response to your PM I have not had a chance to try either the Twilight Alchemy Labs products or the Love Potion perfumes. I’ve decided to spend my money on other things (like tried and tested Androtics pheromones) and other methods of self-improvement. My understanding so far from my reading is that most of the users of the TwAlchemLab/LPP products are female although there are some guys who have tried them as well (like NBully and Rbt here). If I was to use them I would follow the advice of the makers/experts on their forums as to how to properly unleash their ‘magickal’ powers. The BPAL forums seem to have some interesting reviews of some masculine smelling TwAlchemLab products like Lord of the Forest and Master. Bend Over is another one that seems to have ‘interesting’ properties and one or two decent reviews. From memory, Charisma has a lot of positive reviews as well. The one I am interested in trying at some stage is Caliph’s Beloved (which contains Cinnamon among other things). Indeed, I think the Cinnamon scent could be a powerful aphrodisiac/lust enhancer (only problems are it is a strong skin irritant on some people and some people don’t like its smell ☹ ). I want to try it with straight AndrosteRone (or A314), P75, P83, Alpha-Androstenol, Copulins and other useful sex/arousal enhancing pheromones to see how it would fare as a replacement to AndrosteNone. Here is what I have on Caliph’s beloved… **CALIPH’S BELOVED** : _Stimulates your own sexual energy and incites intense feelings of passion and desire._ [Dixie Love Perfume and Caliph's Beloved: tal\_reports — LiveJournal](http://community.livejournal.com/tal_reports/15929.html) ([Dixie Love Perfume and Caliph's Beloved: tal\_reports — LiveJournal](http://community.livejournal.com/tal_reports/15929.html)) **sofiaviolet** ([http://sofiaviolet.livejournal.com/](http://sofiaviolet.livejournal.com/)) (July 9, 2006): “_ **Dixie** _\*\*\* Love Perfume and Caliph’s Beloved\*\*\* I must say, Dixie Love Perfume and Caliph’s Beloved are really amazingly effective together. My boyfriend has been away for a week, and I was hoping to ensure that the sex we had when he got back was really good. This is what I did: 1. Two days before you expect to see your partner, carve genital images (one for you and one for your partner) into either side of a fairly squat red candle. Carve two hearts as well, between the genital images. Annoint with Dixie Love Perfume and burn for a short time. **2. One day before you expect to see your partner, annoint the candle with Caliph’s Beloved and burn for a short time.** **3. When your partner returns, have sex by candlelight, including the annointed candle. This time, your partner should light the candle.** 1. Enjoy! I thought about wearing one of the oils, but neither smelled terribly appealing. I wound up wearing Bearded Lady, which smells very feminine and sexy. **There’s still quite a bit of that candle left. Because it was so effective, I’d like to continue using it.** I’m not sure whether to annoint it again or not, though.” [Caliph's Beloved - Love, Lust, and Beauty - BPAL Madness!](http://www.bpal.org/index.php?showtopic=21252&pid=832394&st=0&) ([Caliph's Beloved - Love, Lust, and Beauty - BPAL Madness!](http://www.bpal.org/index.php?showtopic=21252&pid=832394&st=0&#entry832394)) Slave1 (May 14, 2006): "In Bottle: Plastic and wood On Skin: Wow, at first it smelled like a toy stright out of the packaging, pure plastic. After it develops on my skin, I get cinnamon, sweet and spicy. It’s also quite musky, it’s actually kind of sexy. There is a very sweet powdery note in the background. I get a similar feeling to Bengal (honey and spice) but much stronger in the spice department. I also feel like ther’s a very faint floral note, maybe tearose? I like the feeling it gives, but I can’t inhale too deeply because the cinnamon is quite overpowering and I actually really dislike cinnamon scents. But if I just left it waft by my nose, or get a slight whiff of it, it’s perfect. **And yes, it actaully speeds my heart up and makes me feel a little flushed.**" cuervosueno (June 17, 2006): "…I found this again the other day and was going to a party where I was supposed to meet a man my friends thought I might be interested in, so I put it on (and a corset, but hey, it was a party celebrating a friend’s five years in sex work). Caliph’s Beloved was gorgeous–it smelled just like cinnamon red hots on me. Yum! **And did it ever work! And not as I expected. While the man my friends wanted to introduce me to was clearly interested, so were most of the other men at the party, despite the fact that some of them have shown no previous interest in me before.** **This works so well,** that I’d be a little hesitant to use some of the attraction blends that have a warning on them, such as blinding glory of love!" Sofia Blackthorn (July 18, 2006): “\*\*This may be the most effective **TAL ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/))** I’ve ever tried. _fans self_ It works amazingly well. I think I may be needing a 5 mL. \*\* **I cannot review its scent because I used it on a candle. I’m not sure what might happen if I used it on myself. I might ignite**! (IMG: **style\_emoticons/default/icon\_wink.gif** ([http://www.bpal.org/style\_emoticons/default/icon\_wink.gif](http://www.bpal.org/style_emoticons/default/icon_wink.gif)))” abejita (July 23, 2006): "The scent: Cinnamon, musk, possibly clove, and something a little sweet. Though I didn’t break out my decant of La Flamme to sniff test, it definitely reminds me of that scent, minus the citrus. Very pleasant. As always with cinnamon, be careful. I have sensitive skin, but this didn’t seem to leave anything more than a very faint redness that went away quickly-- and I did apply heavily. The effect: I chose to use this because Sexual Energy triggers a big allergic reaction, and Caliph’s Beloved has that bit in its description about stimulating your own energy. After a very stressful week (hell, month) of twelve-hour days of training and classes, plus my chronic illness, my libido was shot to hell. Non-existent. **I applied the oil to my wrists, neck, heart, and a tiny bit on my belly, then concentrated on things of an erotic nature. Right away, I felt a buildup of intense warmth concentrated in my diaphragm/solar plexus area, where no oil had been applied. It was a pleasant, interesting sensation, totally unexpected. I have never had the feeling of my energies being stirred up in quite that way. I woke my partner up and the rest of the evening was a stunning success.** **The verdict: Wonderful. When my decant is gone, I may very well purchase a full bottle. I felt glow-y for a long time after, too.**" Alseides (March 16, 2007): "Wow, does this stuff work. I applied some to my base chakra, throat, and heart and rubbed the residue on my wrists about five minutes ago, and already I’m getting butterflies in my stomach. **In me, it seems to be inducing a dizzying sort of lustfulness, one where all your inhibitions are gone and it’s a smoldering, seductive passion blossoming in their place. This may be due to the cinnamon-y note that I’m smelling. Hot, indeed. (IMG:\*\*style\_emoticons/default/icon\_wink.gif ([http://www.bpal.org/style\_emoticons/default/icon\_wink.gif](http://www.bpal.org/style_emoticons/default/icon_wink.gif))**)\*\* I have said many a time that patchouli does not work on me, and that I despise it, and I do. Luckily, there are other notes in this scent-wise that seem to keep it from going to hell on me. But then again, this isn’t meant for use as a perfume. **I must emphasize the DIZZYING part, though that may be due to a sniff of White Light before applying this - I feel… not tired, but my head is in the clouds, so to speak. That said, Caliph’s Beloved definitely delivers. I have yet to see if it intensifies over time…** **ETA: It does. It even disrupted my sleep. In the best possible way, of course.**(IMG:**style\_emoticons/default/happy.gif** ([http://www.bpal.org/style\_emoticons/default/happy.gif](http://www.bpal.org/style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)))" GirlAndroid (May 27, 2007): "A bottle of Caliph’s beloved arrived a few days ago, it’s joined my small collection of bottles. In the bottle it reminds me of … a liquid version of spices you might use in cinnamon-heavy gingerbread? I can see where cinnamon rolls might come into it … mmm… (: Wet on skin, it’s lovely and warm and sweet and spicy. Dry, it’s all that with a smooth creaminess mixed in too … DH got a waft of this, to him it’s a cooler weather night time kind of thing - it might get a little cloying (warm sweet honey?) in warmer weather? **I do like the mood this evokes, and it’s passed a few tests here (: Very glad I have a bottle of this!**" hayet (July 3, 2007): "I love the scent of this one- it has a lot of similarities to Black Phoenix. There’s definitely more cinnamon/clove in this one than BP, but there’s a hint of rose underneath, and a whole slew of other stuff I can’t identify. **But it works. I can’t wear it on my body (cinnamon=nemesis), but having it scent my hair all day has left me very eager to see the DH this evening indeed!**" [http://www.bpal.org/index.php?showtopic=31901](http://www.bpal.org/index.php?showtopic=31901) ([http://www.bpal.org/index.php?showtopic=31901](http://www.bpal.org/index.php?showtopic=31901)) yeahbutnobut (April 1, 2007): “Oddly, I think Sybaris smells a bit like Anthelion, with violet instead of lavender. I think there’s clove in both scents, maybe tonka too? I’ve yet to find a BPAL that smells like Lionheart. That is such a beautiful scent. Radiance of Ra, obviously, smells very much like Ra (the Excolo), but with a little Ahathoor. Queen of the Nile reminds me of Black Lotus with added musk. Temple Egyptian also reminds me strongly of Black Lotus. I think that Wicked, Phantom and La Petite Mort remind me of Arabian Nights. Amor smells like #20 Love Oil without the spices, or a fruitier Seraglio. I think I got a slight Hymn to Pan scent (without the lavender) from Beltane 06, but I may be wrong… Also, I adore the scent of Caliph’s Beloved. Can’t find anything with that same cinnamon-amber-musk-incense scent to it (despite a few passing similarities in some oils). **But I can never wear CB as an actual perfume because of it’s incredibly sexual properties, unless I want some of that (IMG:\*\*[http://www.bpal.org/style\_emoticons/default/icon\_wink.gif](http://www.bpal.org/style_emoticons/default/icon_wink.gif) ([http://www.bpal.org/style\_emoticons/default/icon\_wink.gif](http://www.bpal.org/style_emoticons/default/icon_wink.gif))**) \*\* This post has been edited by **yeahbutnobut** : Apr 1 2007, 11:30 PM” [Twilight Alchemy Lab's 'Caliph's Beloved'](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/twilight-alchemy-labs-caliphs-beloved/4510) ([Twilight Alchemy Lab's 'Caliph's Beloved'](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/twilight-alchemy-labs-caliphs-beloved/4510)) tisha23 (July 6, 2007): “**I have used ‘Caliph’s Beloved’] and I like it.** I am sure Visionary is aware of this but I will mention it anyway so others dont get confused. There are no pheromones ([Twilight Alchemy Lab's 'Caliph's Beloved'](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/twilight-alchemy-labs-caliphs-beloved/4510)) in Caliphs beloved. When people are referring to [TAL](https://pheromonelabs.com/) they mean Twilight Alchemy Lab. This is a potion and one that works amazingly well in my opinion. **Visionary I think it would work great on a man in fact I think its more of a mans scent. I have no problem with cinnamon but you will feel it when it makes contact with your skin. Sort of tingles. If you get it try it out on rougher areas of your body like outer arms, back of hand and see if you get rashy. I sometimes wear scents that bother my skin in a necklace pendant and they do have some of those that would look good on men.** In fact I wonder if they would be useful with pheromones? Here is one that would look cool on a guy [The Celtic Wolf Perfume Locket - MWArt.com](http://www.mwart.com/xq/ASP.product/pid.242/qx/the-celtic-wolf-perfume-locket.htm) Most come with little pads so you can change the scent when you want. Tisha” [Twilight Alchemy Lab's 'Caliph's Beloved'](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/twilight-alchemy-labs-caliphs-beloved/4510) ([Twilight Alchemy Lab's 'Caliph's Beloved'](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/twilight-alchemy-labs-caliphs-beloved/4510)) tisha23 (July 8, 2007): “…**I would say the cinnamon (top note) has a throw of about 5 or 6 feet. But at 3 to 4 you get the best results because the (middle note) kicks in. I get a sweet rose as the (bottom note) but its very subtle and you only seem to notice it briefly and once in a while. It is designed to arouse the wearer more than those around them but it is a attractive smell that will have people around you going HMMMM. I felt I was noticed more when I wore it. I bought a sample bottle and it only has a few applications in it but I felt it did arouse my husband but not to the extent that cops do.** **Caliphs scent never makes me feel peeved off no matter how much I smell. I feel slightly aroused and content from the scent. It worked much the same on my husband when I was wearing it. He got all snuggly and content. He seemed to touch me more in passing during the day.** Comparativly a little bit of none makes me feel very aroused and makes me think of sex right away. Ok this is embarrassing and TMI but it makes me want to rub up against my SO and touch him everywhere. He dosnt even have to be wearing it and he dosnt wear any kind of scent normally but I have sprayed a little Turn Up The Heat ([Turn Up the Heat – Sensual Pheromone Spray Cologne for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/)) on his shirt a few times. It also gives me a feeling of urgency like “I want sex now”. Caliphs dosnt give me that urgent feeling. I feel more content and open to sex but I dont feel hot and needy. **I would say None wins hands down but I also think the two would compliment each other nicely. I think it would be a very sensual combo.** I do have a few [EO](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_oil) lockets that I use once in a while but I never put [pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/twilight-alchemy-labs-caliphs-beloved/4510) in them and didnt even think of it till my other post when I mentioned it. I do like them and I wouldnt say the throw of the scent is more than if your wearing the scent but it will cause strong sporatic throws as you move around. Its kinda hard to explain but bare with me. As you move about when wearing it, it gives small bursts of scent so someone around you wouldnt get a consistant level sniff. You bend over or turn quick and they get a sudden “HMMM whats that smell” and then its gone till you move around again. Its sort of like teasing. If your sitting still say at a desk or watching a movie the smell wont be noticed by others but as soon as you lean over to grab the popcorn the pendant swings and the scent wafts out. I am not sure how it will work with [pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/twilight-alchemy-labs-caliphs-beloved/4510) because inside the locket there is a little sponge that you pore the scent on. I dont know how [pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/twilight-alchemy-labs-caliphs-beloved/4510) would react on a sponge. I think the locket would probably be weaker then wearing the [pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/twilight-alchemy-labs-caliphs-beloved/4510) but again they could compliment each other nicely. Wear some and put some in locket. Tisha” ---
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I own a lot of the BPAL scents (most of them the more masculine fragrances) and I gotta say that to cover pheromones they work incredibly. They do tend to be very strong so you gotta make sure you use very small dabs. I use one small dab for most of them and the smell stays with me all day (and I really mean all day). Not all of them are good for covering pheros since some tend to go a bit sour, but there are just so many scents to choose from. My reccomendation is go with what’s popular and try snake oil (both males and females), it’s a little less masculine, but it’s not hard to pull off. It is also sweet and exotic and is absolutely perfect for covering A314 in my opinion. ---
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BPAL-forumite checking in! I love many many different BPAL perfumes and own a ton of samples and a good deal of bottles. Snake Oil and O are some of my favorites. There are lots of threads on the forum about what people like on guys in general or their boyfriend or husband. Crowley and Count Dracula, I remember to be popular and sexy but they are not available in samples. I sniffed some male BPAL’s and liked: DeSade and Hellfire for leathery masculine perfumes, the latter having more of a cuddle comfort vibe to it. Satyr, War and Bloodlust for a sexy, red sort of scent. Golden Priaprus is the male version of O by the way. Villain and Antony are classic masculine blends, the latter reminds me of the movies Gladiator and 300. Magus, Dracul and Umbra are very dark perfumes for men, would be nice with black clothes. There is also a recommendations forum, you could always start a thread in it. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/black-phoenix-alchemy-lab-bpal/1546.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/black-phoenix-alchemy-lab-bpal/1546.md?page=4)