# Blade testing p125 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 1, 2009, 1:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927 "2009-10-01T01:19:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BLADE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blade/32/2083_2.png) [@BLADE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BLADE)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927/1 "2009-10-01T01:19:14Z")
I’m giving myself a few days off P123 testing as I want to keep the self effects with that. But what’s a guy to do in the meantime??? Why, test something else, of course!! Yesterday morning at work, I pulled out P125 with the intention of following my usual “Self test First” policy. Here is how things went… **Product name,scent and strength** * * * **P125, [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/), 12.5 mcg** * * * **11.29am 1.5 sprays to throat** * * * **11.34am Slight nervous energy feeling, but feel moderately chatty** * * * **11.37am Feel a degree of excitement** * * * **11.53am I feel almost cheeky with this. Nothing dark about this one** * * * **11.57am 1 spray to throat (2.5 total)** * * * **12.05pm slight pressure headache in forehead. Went for a smoke, had a bounce in my stride** * * * **12.34pm have had 2 brief conversations – both felt quite deep, close and open – beta nolish. Very short exposure time though, could be co-incidental** * * * **12.39pm Hmmm. Nothing really standing out at the moment.** * * * * * * **At this point, work issues got in the way of my self testing. Nothing in** **particular at lunch (1pm) either. The initial feeling of excitement died out pretty quickly after the first half hour. I was a bit disappointed to be honest – this is the first P I’ve tested that didn’t have fairly clear cut effects for me.** * * * **My GF and I had planned to have a quiet night in front of the TV which seemed like a good opportunity to give this another go. Unlike P123 which I was initially worried about exposing my GF too given her natural bluntness, I hadn’t seen too much of anything to worry about with this.** * * * **I did feel like it might need a stronger application, though so…..** * * * **2 sprays @12.5mcg to throat, 1 spray to each wrist (4 total – 50mcgs)** * * * **EFFECTS** * * * **This was about half an hour before my GF got home. Within minutes I’d gone from my normal arriving home mood to a really good, positive, happy one. I was excited about the night. It was going to be fun – we’d watch TV, chill out, maybe order Pizza, have a few drinks – what a great way to spend Wednesday night.** * * * **I got out the Pizza menu, grabbed a wine glass for GF and had them ready in the kitchen. Pulled a bourbon and coke can out of the fridge for me. Sat down on the couch, then got back up and had a smoke. Checked the time – where is she? She’s running late….. that’s no good, she needs to come home this is going to be a fun night and I’m _excited!!!_** * * * **GF arrives, we say our hellos and sit on the couch. She tells me about her day. Now, we usually sit next to each other on the couch facing the TV. Today we both have one leg up on the couch and face each other.** * * * \*\*And I’m so attentive! I’m just really happy to have her home and be having this fun Wednesday night, lol. I want to hear all about her day. Even she seems surprised if she loses her train of thought that I remember what she was talking about (she always says I only pretend to listen to her when she talks about her day **J** ) \*\* * * * **She was in a good mood anyway, so it was hard to notice effects on her, but we seemed to be able to banter and stir each other without any negativity. I felt like I could stir her with things I’d normally be a little wary about without repercussion and she seemed to take them that way as well – all just fun. Things that would normally irritate me a little just didn’t. No big deal. Carefree in a very cheerful, fun way.** * * * **Now as much as I feel like being cheeky and having fun, there isn’t anything goofy about me tonight. I’m not doing stupid dances on the balcony to try and make her laugh (yeah I need to grow up). If anything I’m less goofy than usual which is odd considering how cheerful I am. There isn’t anything out of control about how I feel I guess is what I’m getting at.** * * * At one point, early on, I thought there was something very Nol’ish about this – almost somewhere in the middle of Alpha and Beta, but I’m noticing that I’m not exactly chatty myself – I’m listening more. I’m just enjoying being in someone’s company. It’s all about the opportunity to **bond** in a positive, happy, “mini party atmosphere” way. At one point we actually pulled out a board game to play in the ad breaks of the show we were watching. Seemed normal and, well, fun! Alas, all good things must come to an end……. Around the 4 hour mark after application, the effects began to wear off. I started to come down and little things started bugging me. My GF started to take things I said the wrong way. This wasn’t attributable to P125 – this is the way we tend to get when we’re tired. And that’s another plus to the P125, by the way. We’d both had very little sleep the night before – I certainly didn’t feel energetic at all until I dosed up. Which brings me to today. I have the bottle in my pocket and a lunch to go to in about and hour. Mixed group of about 5 people. More testing awaits…….. ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927/2 "2009-10-01T01:54:40Z")
Dang you Blade! You ruined my suprise. I saw your title and could not help reading. I have this as well and plan on testing it as well. Thanks for the awesome report again. I might just try this tommorrow morning. I have the day off. Will be with my wife all day. ---
**Author:** ![BLADE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blade/32/2083_2.png) [@BLADE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BLADE)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 3:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927/3 "2009-10-01T03:46:40Z")
Sorry Andrew, didn’t mean to spoil your fun 😃 I’m looking forward to seeing how you go with this. I don’t if anyone else has actually reported on it yet… ---
**Author:** ![BLADE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blade/32/2083_2.png) [@BLADE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BLADE)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 11:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927/4 "2009-10-01T23:42:08Z")
OK - yesterday’s lunch turned out to have a lot more people than I thought - 10 all up. I should point out this is not my regular lunch crew. It’s another bunch from work and we wandered up to a Hamburger place for a farewell lunch. I don’t normally enjoy this crowd so much - not that they’re not nice, they’re just not my crew and I don’t know many of them that well. I usually keep to myself a little, eat, make small talk and wish the hour away 🙂 I applied a shot to each wrist and a shot either side of my neck - 4 in total (50mcg) The self effects were evident again. Not quite as intense as inside a warm, one on one environment like the night before, but I still feel pleasantly happy and for once didn’t think this lunch was going to be too bad. Walking to the restaurant with the guest of honour I was more attentive to what she was saying and more involved in the conversation - she’s another person I normally don’t really listen all that closely to normally, lol. (Sometimes I wonder why anyone likes me…) Once at the restaurant I pretty much forgot about monitoring reactions - I was too busy having a good time, laughing, joking with people. It was only when I got back to work and thought about how surprised I was that I’d enjoyed myself that I remembered P125… Again, I was more involved and attentive to the whole group than I would normally be. Similarly, everyone joined in on the friendly banter going around the table. This really does seem to have a fun and socially bonding vibe to it. I had another handy little bit of feedback on it late last night chatting to my GF, too. As I’ve mentioned in the past, she’s a massive sceptic, but when telling her about my test on her the night before with P125 she offered up something I didn’t expect. I mentioned in the original report that we were playing a board game in the ad breaks - she hates the game. Thinks it makes her look stupid. Hides it in a cupboard so no visitors suggest playing it - that’s how much she hates it. Last night, she told me how surprised she was that she was happy to play it and didn’t really care if she looked silly or not - it was just a fun thing to do together. I waited for the sceptical, “wasn’t [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) though” speech… didn’t come!!! Even tempted fate by suggesting she must have been affected for once and she actually half nodded and said “Maybe”… Baby steps, baby steps… ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 2:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927/5 "2009-10-02T14:51:54Z")
That sounds awesome! I am really excited to try this out. I have not noticed anyone else report. Thats why I bought it. 🙂 It sounds like I made a good choice so far! If you do not mind me asking, how long have you been dating your GF? I was wondering if you have been in a LTR relationship with her. It would be awesome to increase “bonding” and the “fun” with someone that you have already been with for a while. I am married and am working on a mix to do something similar. This would be something that might push that mix light years forward! ---
**Author:** ![BLADE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blade/32/2083_2.png) [@BLADE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BLADE)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2009, 9:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927/6 "2009-10-04T21:36:21Z")
Yes, LTR and living together for about the last 6 months. It certainly changes my goals with phero use, lol. I think that’s one of the things I really like about this site - there is such a variety of products and things that are more useful to guys like us 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927/7 "2009-10-04T22:11:44Z")
I am happy to hear about your relationship moving forward! I agree once you are in a ltr then phero use does change. There are not a lot of reports from users in a committed relationship. Bosshank has good info though. Anyways I am always on the lookout for pheros that work with spouses. Its hard to get a whole lot of results from someonr that knows your phero sig so well! Keep up the good work here. I am sure I will be testing this soon. I just ordered the last bottle of IFM so I will be testing that with my wife and then this as well! > [@BLADE](#): > > Yes, LTR and living together for about the last 6 months. It certainly changes my goals with phero use, lol. > > I think that’s one of the things I really like about this site - there is such a variety of products and things that are more useful to guys like us 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 10:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927/8 "2009-10-05T10:10:22Z")
> [@andrew88777](#): > > I just ordered the last bottle of IFM so I will be testing that with my wife and then this as well! @\_@ I thought they were never making them again! Why did no one tell me this? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![BLADE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blade/32/2083_2.png) [@BLADE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BLADE)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 10:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927/9 "2009-10-22T22:42:21Z")
Revisited this useful little thing last night 🙂 PRODUCT - P125, 12.5mcg [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) - BetaNol, 50mcg, Akuto APPLICATION - Spray to each wrist of P125, 2 sprays to throat P125. Waited a couple of minutes and then 1 spray Betanol to throat. SELF EFFECTS - Felt upbeat and happy to be doing what I was doing. great day for it - sun was shining, I’d been for a run, work was over - that cheery what a wonderful world feeling I get from P125 EFFECTS TO OTHERS - My GF had invited a friend of hers over for a BBQ and a few drinks. They hadn’t caught up for awhile and it had caused a bit of tension between them. The friend has been going through a rough patch in her relationship for about 6 months but just won’t help herself when it comes to sorting things out. That’s worn on my GF who keeps trying to be supportive but has pretty much run out of sympathy given this girl keeps putting herself back in the same situation. Anyway 🙂 The upshot is that I didn’t expect this night to be all that good. I expected tension between the girls, tears from the friend when her latest issues came up in conversation - in short, the same sort of thing i’ve seen the last couple of times the three of us have hung out. Hence me choosing the little P125 happy juice. As we hung out in the kitchen preparing food, the mood lightened noticeable within minutes. Everyone was talking, laughing, helping out. Plenty of friendly banter and stirring. Even though there were only three of us, the vibe went from “dinner” to “party” if that makes sense. Hell, let’s have a few wines, it’s only Friday tomorrow, lifes too short not to have fun. I cooked up a magnificent BBQ and we sat around eating, talking. A couple of wines for the girls and a few beers for me. Wow - this was the most fun the three of us have had in a long time hanging out. Eventually, the relationship issues did surface, but there were no tears at all! I can’t credit the mones, really, for this. The girl does seem to be slowly coming to terms with things and looking to move on. After the friend left, my GF just wanted to keep partying…and talking (damn BetaNol, lol) We were out of wine and beer - so we hit up the Vodka. Hey, you only live once right? Let’s make a night of it. I’m finding P125 really makes you want to enjoy everything and it certainly very clearly hits others - I don’t think I’ve seen as obvious a response on someone else with any other P. In all, a really fun night which I am now paying for… I feel very scratchy this morning at work…I wonder if anyone will notice if I curl up under the desk and nap… ---
**Author:** ![BLADE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blade/32/2083_2.png) [@BLADE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BLADE)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 3:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927/10 "2009-10-28T03:14:36Z")
Just back from lunch with L and E, two of my guinea pigs. Wanted to try the P125 and BetaNol combo again validate the response from my last report. 1 shot of p125 to each wrist and one to either side of my neck (4sprays total, [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/), 50mcg total) 1 shot Betanol, Akuto, 50mcg total. 1 shot P75, Akuto, 2.5mcg total. Not as happy with this today. I expected a more playful, happy vibe and just didn’t see it. The involvement level in conversation was good - we were all attentive which I’ve come to expect from P125, but the BetaNol seemed to dominate things. Probably didn’t help that our conversation was about reasonably serious topics, but there was none of the cheery banter I anticipated. Given the ratio didn’t change from the other night, this would either be better in a dead set party atmosphere or I need to lower the Beta. I’m more inclined to do the latter as I think P125 has tremendous social value on it’s own - I don’t think it needs too much assistance that way. In fact I can’t honestly say the results have been better with B’Nol in the mix. I have a few mixes planned to try out that basically showcase this P - that’s how good I think it is. Today’s test makes me think the simpler I make them the better. Maybe a little TAC or P74, along with P83 and possibly P79 or MEO to enhance the whole effect. I do have a couple of good testing events for a mix like this coming up… might have to turn the bathroom into a chemistry lab tonight 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BLADE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blade/32/2083_2.png) [@BLADE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BLADE)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 9:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927/11 "2009-10-28T21:53:55Z")
OK - the spare bathroom became a mad alchemist’s hideout last night. Right now I have a mix compositing to give the following per spray p125 8mcg p83 3mcg TAC 3mcg p79 2 mcg As I said earlier, the main goal is to showcase P125 as a social. I added [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) to enhance the fun/bonding vibe of p125. For me, P83 intensifies thought and desire. If people are having fun with this, then they will reaaaallllyyyyyy be into having fun. The TAC is there as an overall harmoniser and it’s socially empathetic qualities should synergise well with P125. The P79 is there simply as an intensifier. Once this has finished keeping my socks company in a drawer, I’ll report back on how it went. I have a couple of events on in the next week that would be good testing grounds for this. ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 11:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927/12 "2009-10-28T23:06:23Z")
Ah BLADE! I cannot wait for this report! You have been doing many things lately I really like what you are doing! p125 8mcg p83 3mcg TAC 3mcg p79 2 mcg You picked these amounts I see. Why did you go with 8 mcg of P125? I have noticed in your reports, you have varied from 50 mcg down to 12.5 mcg. I am just curious in your methods that you used to determine the specific amounts. Thanks BLADE! ---
**Author:** ![BLADE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blade/32/2083_2.png) [@BLADE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BLADE)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 11:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927/13 "2009-10-28T23:24:06Z")
Cheers Andrew. The best results I’ve seen with P125 were around the 40-50mcg mark. Ideally I probably would have gone for about 10mcg per spray, but my limited remaining stock didn’t allow it 🙂 So 8mcg per spray it shall have to be. Given i want to be around the 40mcg mark i’m looking at 5 sprays - so the other ingredients I mixed to get a reasonable but not overpowering amount at that many sprays. Having said that, I’ll probably start out a little lower in the spray number and see whether the P79 can intensify the effect and limit the need for too many additional sprays. I was thinking more along the Instant line with this - heavy on one particular thing with a couple of little harmonisers and intensifiers - as I’ve said, I think P125 does a lot even just on it’s own. ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 12:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927/14 "2009-10-29T00:00:16Z")
LOL ok I understand that one! I am still excited to test this one! I am patiently working with Rone, None, P106 and what not. I would like to make a solid mix with that, then I plan on moving towards P125. However, your results are something that I might want to add to my P106 mix, so I may be out testing with you sooner than I originally planned. 🙂 > [@BLADE](#): > > Cheers Andrew. > > The best results I’ve seen with P125 were around the 40-50mcg mark. > > Ideally I probably would have gone for about 10mcg per spray, but my limited remaining stock didn’t allow it 🙂 > > So 8mcg per spray it shall have to be. Given i want to be around the 40mcg mark i’m looking at 5 sprays - so the other ingredients I mixed to get a reasonable but not overpowering amount at that many sprays. > > Having said that, I’ll probably start out a little lower in the spray number and see whether the P79 can intensify the effect and limit the need for too many additional sprays. > > I was thinking more along the Instant line with this - heavy on one particular thing with a couple of little harmonisers and intensifiers - as I’ve said, I think P125 does a lot even just on it’s own. ---
**Author:** ![jakeable83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f1d935/32.png) [@jakeable83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jakeable83)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 2:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927/15 "2009-10-29T02:29:28Z")
Hey blade so another quick question… would it be an okay mixture in your opinion to try mixing NPA with IO (i just bought some IO). and if so what ratio would you use? ---
**Author:** ![BLADE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blade/32/2083_2.png) [@BLADE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BLADE)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 3:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927/16 "2009-10-29T03:30:14Z")
> [@jakeable83](#): > > Hey blade so another quick question… would it be an okay mixture in your opinion to try mixing NPA with IO (i just bought some IO). and if so what ratio would you use? If you mean putting both in the same bottle or atomiser, don’t do it… The Instant Line are very cleverly balanced as it is. Mixing something else in there will detract from the effects. You’re better off mixing the NPA with a favourite cologne, spraying that on and then spraying IO separately. ---
**Author:** ![jakeable83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f1d935/32.png) [@jakeable83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jakeable83)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927/17 "2009-10-29T16:52:42Z")
thanks for all the help man its greatly appreciated, i would imagine if i didn’t stumble onto this forum i would have ended up walking around smelling like cat piss and making people angry haha