# Body fat and androstenol

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/body-fat-and-androstenol/20>\
**Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\
**Created:** [October 2, 2005, 12:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/body-fat-and-androstenol/20 "2005-10-02T00:38:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 10:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/body-fat-and-androstenol/20/21 "2016-11-13T22:36:51Z")

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> [@MHarris](#):
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> Higher body fat seems to correlate with higher natural androstenol.
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> People tend to be at ease and sometimes very candid around ‘larger’ people, which is exactly what you’d expect from androstenols. When I had a weight problem, people were much friendlier with me. I was everyone’s “best friend”, even though there was little sexual interest. People would tell me everything, some telling me secrets they told no one else.
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> I don’t think it was merely because I was less intimidating to the weight. When I had the issue, I could’ve sat on them and crushed them! Think about that. 🙂
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> This connects direftly to the fact that adipose tissue (fat cells) increase serum levels of estrogen. No doubt there’s a synthesis route from estrogen to androstenol in the body.
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> Now that I’m producing less natural androstenol and more natural -none, supplement with exogenous (spray on or drop on) androstenol is useful for me. It takes some of the aggressive edge of androstenone off.

I like this, we must tap into our inner fat man.

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 10:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/body-fat-and-androstenol/20/22 "2016-11-13T22:58:49Z")

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Considering that Androstenol is converted from Androstenone through 3α-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase, my guess is that the more fat you have the higher amount of 3α-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase you have, or at least conversion happens at a higher rate.

I think I read some studies saying that in sites where there was an increase in omentum fat tissue there was also an increase in 3α-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase activity..

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 11:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/body-fat-and-androstenol/20/23 "2016-11-13T23:00:16Z")

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> [@MHarris](#):
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> Higher body fat seems to correlate with higher natural androstenol.
> 
> People tend to be at ease and sometimes very candid around ‘larger’ people, which is exactly what you’d expect from androstenols. When I had a weight problem, people were much friendlier with me. I was everyone’s “best friend”, even though there was little sexual interest. People would tell me everything, some telling me secrets they told no one else.
> 
> I don’t think it was merely because I was less intimidating to the weight. When I had the issue, I could’ve sat on them and crushed them! Think about that. 🙂
> 
> This connects direftly to the fact that adipose tissue (fat cells) increase serum levels of estrogen. No doubt there’s a synthesis route from estrogen to androstenol in the body.
> 
> Now that I’m producing less natural androstenol and more natural -none, supplement with exogenous (spray on or drop on) androstenol is useful for me. It takes some of the aggressive edge of androstenone off.

I like this, we must tap into our inner fat man.

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 4:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/body-fat-and-androstenol/20/24 "2016-11-14T16:30:53Z")

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You know when I was heavier like 20lbs heavier and not use to take very good care of myself it does seem people were slightly more friendly and there is something to this with the natural body.

When I started taking better care of myself and taking a male multi support vitamin and quit drinking I lost a little weight just from this and right after that with women in the 40 plus range all of a sudden started to take a lot of interest in me probably due to my natural higher output of the Rone, None.

I have found with [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) I need them now for the younger crowd to be more open to me to now balance out my natural signature now and to tone things down a bit with the older women.

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**Author:** ![chrisepz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@chrisepz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chrisepz)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/body-fat-and-androstenol/20/25 "2016-11-15T03:33:41Z")

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I think this is why it seemed to me I was incredibly “popular” in middle school. Girls would always be chatting me up, so would guys. I was chubby, and bordering fat. I didn’t start taking care of my health until 10th grade.

My social skills are sharper with both women and men, but I can’t replicate the type of social presence I had back in '05 - '09.

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**Author:** ![NeithSpell](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/neithspell/32/2264_2.png) [@NeithSpell](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NeithSpell)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 5:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/body-fat-and-androstenol/20/26 "2018-02-19T05:27:57Z")

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Fat pheromones may also be why men are seem to be attracted to woman that have more tush and more breast.

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