# Body language help **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [August 15, 2012, 6:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/body-language-help/56404 "2012-08-15T06:18:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Penance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Penance](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Penance)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 6:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/body-language-help/56404/1 "2012-08-15T06:18:31Z")
Hey im wanting to no more about womens body language because I thought if im trying with [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) I might aswell look into learning a keen eye for body language because im terrible at spotting signs from women and hits. Any one no any good reading material or links about womens body language,etc. Would be appreciated Thanks Penance ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 9:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/body-language-help/56404/2 "2012-08-15T09:01:04Z")
Hi Peanance .. have you checked the sticky threads in the main male and female forum on how to spot hits … ton’s of information there … **Pago** ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 9:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/body-language-help/56404/3 "2012-08-15T09:54:13Z")
Yes - superb thread on body language here: > [@How to Tell a Woman is Interested In You -- The Master "Indicators of Interest List"](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-tell-a-woman-is-interested-in-you-the-master-indicators-of-interest-list/8333): > > Multiple looks. Women have much better If you catch us looking at you more than once, it’s probably becuse we’re attracted and we can’t help it. You catching us looking at all. Women look at you fast. If you catch us looking at you, this may be because we’re attracted. Not always (I get horrified when I see someone catching me looking when I’m not actually interested), but often. You guys have muscle, but we have social muscles. WHen you catch us being less than discreet, we often mean it and/… And there are others on how to project yourself appropriately alongside your pheros if you search. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 10:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/body-language-help/56404/4 "2012-08-16T10:03:03Z")
Start here for the basics [Using Body Language](http://changingminds.org/techniques/body/body_language.htm) Amazon has lots of books on it you can check out to. “The Definitive book of body language” is the current go to book. We communicate using all of our senses. 90% is nonverbal Learning to consciously speak and read body language is a huge part of being successful in any area including with women and relationships. I notice when I coach people on body language the biggest mistake they make is thinking one movement always means the same thing. For instance some guys think just because a girl is playing with her hair she is flirting with him. Its on the list on mobos link and it is a good link but many of the things on it are so misunderstood they actually are confusing people. Just like with verbal language a word is just a word until its put into the context of a sentence. Its the same with body language. Playing with hair is just playing with hair until you read the rest of the body language (the context of the sentence) So while I like the [How to Tell a Woman is Interested In You -- The Master "Indicators of Interest List"](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-tell-a-woman-is-interested-in-you-the-master-indicators-of-interest-list/8333) its like teaching people a few words of spanish. Doesn’t mean you can speak the langauge. Here is a interesting one. I have the full documentory on realplayer and will try to figure out how to share it. Here is part of it on Youtude though. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/b/bf4bf20de2a64e28d0f38c47633b4e8f675234f0.jpeg "Body Language - Indicators of Interest (IOIs)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBOtj1RmaUE) If your really into learning about body language on a whole watch this [Secrets of Body Language | Watch Free Documentary Online](http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/secrets-of-body-language/) Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Penance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Penance](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Penance)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 8:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/body-language-help/56404/5 "2012-08-16T20:09:22Z")
Wow thanks tisha23 sounds like you no your stuff, i’ll defianatly have a look at them links…great help appreciate it. ---
**Author:** ![JohnM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/848f3c/32.png) [@JohnM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnM)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2012, 2:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/body-language-help/56404/6 "2012-08-17T02:21:20Z")
> [@](#): > > Here is a interesting one. I have the full documentory on realplayer and will try to figure out how to share it. Here is part of it on Youtude though. > > Body Language - Indicators of Interest (IOIs) - YouTube I think that video is probably more confusing them helpful. Before approaching a woman it’s up central that the woman has sent an IOI. It’s good when it happens, but it’s nothing that you should worry about when you are in the moment. > [@](#): > > s I might aswell look into learning a keen eye for body language because im terrible at spotting signs from women and hits. It’s not something you do with the eye. In moments where I’m good at picking up signals it’s not something I do by interpreting visual signals. I rather feel it inside my body. If a girl smiles and keeps flirty eye contact, I feel it in my body. If I don’t pay attention to what happens inside me and instead try to analyze what I see in her face, there isn’t much emotional connection. Highly visually based nerds often have trouble understanding bodylanguage. People who are very kinesthetic usually better at it. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2012, 12:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/body-language-help/56404/7 "2012-08-17T12:20:55Z")
> [@](#): > > In moments where I’m good at picking up signals it’s not something I do by interpreting visual signals. > **I rather feel it inside my body.** If you feel it inside your body thats called chemistry. Pheromonal attraction. Its not an indicator of interest its your feeling. The IOI is the body language she is displaying that triggers your chemical response. > [@](#): > > If a **girl smiles and keeps flirty eye contact** , **I feel it in my body**. If I don’t pay attention to what happens inside me and instead try to analyze what I see in her face, there isn’t much emotional connection. That’s reading body language. Her BL triggers your feeling because you can read it but for those who cant read it it leaves them confused and unsure which are also feelings. > [@](#): > > Highly visually based nerds often have trouble understanding bodylanguage. People who are very kinesthetic usually better at it. Oh no you didnt LOL You realize you just called half the forum visually based nerds (snort) 😮 … I know you didnt mean it that way People have different natural strengths and different weaknesses. If they go in waiting to just **feel it** that moment may not come like it does for you because if it had they wouldn’t be asking for help. Its sort of like saying to someone who asks how to be confident to just feel confident. How ?? If they could do that they wouldnt ask. > [@](#): > > I think that video is probably more confusing then helpful. > [@](#): > > People who are very kinesthetic usually better at it. Probably because you do not read body language well yet. With practice and observation it becomes second nature just like when you speak english. I rather enjoyed it because I am a visually based nerd LOL Just kidding. 😉 Yes I agree one of the best learning method is by doing what your trying to learn but only if you have some sense of what it is your about to do. The video is designed to give you that sense of whats going on. Plus its only 15 minutes of a 2 hour video. To a novice yes it can be confusing. Sort of like listening to Spanish when you don’t speak it. It leaves you guessing and if you go out there and try to speak it without some sort of guidance you’ll end up looking like a jackass. The video is just designed to give some guidance. He is not saying do what I do. > [@Penance](#): > > Wow thanks tisha23 sounds like you no your stuff, i’ll defianatly have a look at them links…great help appreciate it. Your welcome. I assume you looked into [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) because you want to improve your life whether socially or otherwise. I do hope you learn the skill not just for picking up women. Reading and speaking body language truly gives you a huge advantage not just socially but with every interaction you have. I would even say far more then mones even though I adore mones. Both my sons have had the advantage of having an expert for a mom in nonverbal and verbal communication and learned it at a very young age. Both of them are average looking, we are not rich but there is not a women they cant influence and persuade. Hell there is not a man they cant influence and persuade for that matter. Thats how a 21 year old with a normal job got the bank to loan him a quarter million dollars to buy his first house. The younger one (18) has had women of all ages after him for years. Christ I am constantly getting rid of them. I think I created a little monster with that one LOL If you have questions feel free to ask. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Penance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Penance](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Penance)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2012, 12:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/body-language-help/56404/8 "2012-08-17T12:58:33Z")
some interesting points thanks [quote=“tisha23, post:7, topic:56404”] I do hope you learn the skill not just for picking up women. aha! yeah im interested in learning body language as a whole, but wanting to focus at the moment for picking up women 🙂 i did pick up a book on the subject called body language for dummies read through half of it and never got round to reading the rest