# Body's natural pheromone and link to race?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodys-natural-pheromone-and-link-to-race/43891>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [December 11, 2010, 12:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodys-natural-pheromone-and-link-to-race/43891 "2010-12-11T12:03:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![f0ndmet4l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a4c791/32.png) [@f0ndmet4l](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/f0ndmet4l)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 12:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodys-natural-pheromone-and-link-to-race/43891/1 "2010-12-11T12:03:44Z")

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I hope this does not sound liek a silly question, as we know there are physical differences, being into fitness and training I know that black people have a higher proportion of “fast-twitch” fibres and more testosterone than whites. Which make them naturall very good at explosive sports such as sprinting and boxing.

I was wondering if there is a link to how much natural [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) a person would produce and if that is linked to the amount of testosternone they have as well as their race?

I have also seen threads where the effects are differnt on Asians or Indian girls. Just trying to get a greater understanding.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodys-natural-pheromone-and-link-to-race/43891/2 "2010-12-11T16:29:35Z")

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> [@f0ndmet4l](#):
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> I hope this does not sound liek a silly question, as we know there are physical differences, being into fitness and training I know that black people have a higher proportion of “fast-twitch” fibres and more testosterone than whites. Which make them naturall very good at explosive sports such as sprinting and boxing.
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> I was wondering if there is a link to how much natural pheromone a person would produce and if that is linked to the amount of testosternone they have as well as their race?
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> I have also seen threads where the effects are differnt on Asians or Indian girls. Just trying to get a greater understanding.

Typically yes. The higher T levels, typically have higher AndrostENONE signatures.

Especially if you work out, your T levels will be higher, regardless of race.

Asians are throught to have h igher AndrostERONE levels than other races.

But to make things simple for you, just test out products like IG for AndrostERONE, and [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) for AndrostENONE for your sweet spots to find your levels where it works and levels where you OD.

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**Author:** ![whs06c](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whs06c/32/2142_2.png) [@whs06c](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/whs06c)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodys-natural-pheromone-and-link-to-race/43891/3 "2010-12-11T16:34:49Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> Asians are throught to have higher AndrostERONE levels than other races.

Not to put you in a difficult spot (and mostly due to my curiosity), where exactly did you find that statement out?

The none levels I can concur with, but I couldn’t find anything about the -rone content. Any indicators besides personality to show a person has high -rone?

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**Author:** ![f0ndmet4l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a4c791/32.png) [@f0ndmet4l](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/f0ndmet4l)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodys-natural-pheromone-and-link-to-race/43891/4 "2010-12-11T16:42:47Z")

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If your statement is true that asians have higher levels of rone, that might make sense, because I know they seem to have the lower levels of testosterone compared to black males, who have the highest levels of all followed by caucasians and then asians.

I have been working out for years, Im sure my T levels are pretty high, so my none levels should also be?.. but its strange, when I meet the women they seem to say there is no sexual spark, chemistry.. I guess thats where I need something like TUTH or [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)?

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**Author:** ![whs06c](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whs06c/32/2142_2.png) [@whs06c](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/whs06c)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodys-natural-pheromone-and-link-to-race/43891/5 "2010-12-11T16:52:48Z")

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> [@f0ndmet4l](#):
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> when I meet the women they seem to say there is no sexual spark, chemistry.. I guess thats where I need something like TUTH or Ammo?

Could be. Or it could be the lack of bonding that might get to ya. Tried IH on them?

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**Author:** ![f0ndmet4l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a4c791/32.png) [@f0ndmet4l](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/f0ndmet4l)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodys-natural-pheromone-and-link-to-race/43891/6 "2010-12-11T17:00:00Z")

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> [@whs06c](#):
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> Could be. Or it could be the lack of bonding that might get to ya. Tried IH on them?

I really dont know, but I have ordered a combo so will be looking forward to testing it…

They all seem to say of late im a great guy blah blah, but something was missing.. I guess they didnt feel the sexual excitement, so I guess im not giving out that vibe. I cant understand it because 3/4 years ago that was not really something I was ever told and never had such issues. Something must have changed to alter my natural pheromones 😕

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodys-natural-pheromone-and-link-to-race/43891/7 "2010-12-11T17:18:01Z")

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> [@whs06c](#):
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> Not to put you in a difficult spot (and mostly due to my curiosity), where exactly did you find that statement out?
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> The none levels I can concur with, but I couldn’t find anything about the -rone content. Any indicators besides personality to show a person has high -rone?

From reading the last few months.

I udnerstand your point where you wanna get it, but it’ll just be too time consuming for me to go and look for it.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodys-natural-pheromone-and-link-to-race/43891/8 "2010-12-11T17:19:49Z")

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> [@f0ndmet4l](#):
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> If your statement is true that asians have higher levels of rone, that might make sense, because I know they seem to have the lower levels of testosterone compared to black males, who have the highest levels of all followed by caucasians and then asians.
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> I have been working out for years, Im sure my T levels are pretty high, so my none levels should also be?.. but its strange, when I meet the women they seem to say there is no sexual spark, chemistry.. I guess thats where I need something like TUTH or Ammo?

Sexual sprak and chemistry isn’t just on [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) alone, it’s also part of how you interact and flip attraction switches. I work out consistently and I’ve noticed I don’t need too much -none to really get attraction going. But AMMO works best when you’re going out, and TUTH when you already built that comfort.

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**Author:** ![vlal21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/59ef9b/32.png) [@vlal21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vlal21)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodys-natural-pheromone-and-link-to-race/43891/9 "2010-12-11T18:42:44Z")

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It’s funny I find that as a black man as soon as I started using mones black women were repelled by me and Caucasian/Latin/Asians women now can’t get enough of me. Which is fine by me. I find that I attract in hoards of super out of my league model type women from Eastern Europe. It’s like they can smell me from down the block.

I’m average looking, 5’6, and have been told I sound White by other blacks and Whites. This with mones has made me “That Guy” from the old spice commercials. The white girls who like black guys anyway have become complete sluts to put it mildly.

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 12:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodys-natural-pheromone-and-link-to-race/43891/10 "2010-12-12T00:05:40Z")

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Asian girls in general like high rone, since they are more used to it, I guess. No wonder, Ig and A314 works well. A314 alone can get them intimidated so use some socials like IS, IH or IO with it. IG and IS also do well with them! Ammo does well sometimes too… but they attract clubbing types, and I am not into them

White girls go either way… if they are into Darker species, they tend to like high none… if they are more attracted to family-oriented, diligent Yellow species, then probably high rone… however, for most part, they like a little bit of both but a bit more rone (comfort and security). Ammo is good for clubs and flirty girls; Tuth is good, but when only DEEP comfort and attraction have been established… IG also works well during day and with nice girls… they like socials…

Latinas .. Latinas do like erone, but more -none… They like ammo, tuth, and edge type of stuff… they like masculine stuff, but not over the top like crazy -none like blacks

Blacks or Sistas… they dig high -none too… erone don’t do much, but a tiny amount is okay… Go with IJ, Ammo 2x and TUTH… IS pairs well with it… They don’t seem to particularly dig high connecting mones like IH… They want to do it hard, not play it nice 😃

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodys-natural-pheromone-and-link-to-race/43891/11 "2010-12-12T00:08:43Z")

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> [@CoolKat](#):
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> Asian girls in general like high rone, since they are more used to it, I guess. No wonder, Ig and A314 works well. A314 alone can get them intimidated so use some socials like IS, IH or IO with it. IG and IS also do well with them! Ammo does well sometimes too… but they attract clubbing types, and I am not into them
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> White girls go either way… so if they are into Darker species, then probably high none… if they are more attracted to family-oriented, diligent Yellow species, then probably high rone… however, for most part, they like a little bit of both but a bit more rone (comfort and security). Ammo is good for clubs and flirty girls; Tuth is good, but when only DEEP comfort and attraction have been established… IG also works well during day and with nice girls…
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> Latinas .. Latinas do like erone, but more -none… They like ammo, tuth, and edge type of stuff
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> Blacks or Sistas… they dig high -none too… erone don’t do much, but a tiny amount is okay… Go with IJ, Ammo 2x and TUTH… IS pairs well with it… They don’t seem to particularly dig high connecting mones like IH… They want to do it hard, not play it nice 😃

Wanna be a bit more ignorant and call asians yellow?

Are you serious, that’s not even funny.

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 12:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodys-natural-pheromone-and-link-to-race/43891/12 "2010-12-12T00:11:41Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> Wanna be a bit more ignorant and call asians yellow?
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> Are you serious, that’s not even funny.

Dude, okay… I have to clarify… This is even better!

Africans = dark brown

Usually South Asians = light brown

Southeast Asians = cinnamon type brown

east asians = light yellow…

caucasians = white/ or white with some stains (freckles)

I made it even clear. You happy? You take thigns too seriously… it is winter and saturday. Like all of us, go out now and enjoy!  
Take some p130…

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 12:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodys-natural-pheromone-and-link-to-race/43891/13 "2010-12-12T00:13:41Z")

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> [@CoolKat](#):
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> Dude, okay… I have to clarify… This is even better!
> 
> Africans = dark brown
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> Usually South Asians = light brown
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> Southeast Asians = cinnamon type brown
> 
> east asians = light yellow…
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> caucasians = white/ or white with some stains (freckles)
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> I made it even clear. You happy? You take thigns too seriously… it is winter and saturday. Like all of us, go out now and enjoy!  
> Take some p130…

You obviously missed the point really. Your calling freckles stains? Do you think about the things you type?

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 12:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodys-natural-pheromone-and-link-to-race/43891/14 "2010-12-12T00:15:06Z")

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> [@Maidenfan01](#):
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> You obviously missed the point really.

Dude, if you have a problem with people making fun of certain race, go blame the fuc\*ing hollywood or something…

Or some former loser politicians like Dick Cheney or Bush… Tehy are the ones perpetuationg this stereotype

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 12:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodys-natural-pheromone-and-link-to-race/43891/15 "2010-12-12T00:16:10Z")

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your not helping your case. I’m done arguing.

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 12:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodys-natural-pheromone-and-link-to-race/43891/16 "2010-12-12T00:22:13Z")

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> [@Maidenfan01](#):
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> your not helping your case. I’m done arguing.

Whatever dude… I am not even being SERIOUS about it… It is just you being sensitive about it… Take a pill man. It is a joke

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodys-natural-pheromone-and-link-to-race/43891/17 "2010-12-12T00:30:14Z")

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> [@CoolKat](#):
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> Whatever dude… I am not even being SERIOUS about it… It is just you being sensitive about it… Take a pill man. It is a joke

You really are a dumbass, I can’t possibly think someone as intelligent to be in med school to actually say half the crap you do.

Please just do us all a favor and STFU.

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**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 1:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodys-natural-pheromone-and-link-to-race/43891/18 "2010-12-12T01:15:13Z")

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woah, got some major tensions here. We need some spaceland, STAT! Honestly, my time on the interwebz has taught me that there isn’t much point in getting ticked off at some bloke hiding behind a computer.

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**Author:** ![f0ndmet4l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a4c791/32.png) [@f0ndmet4l](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/f0ndmet4l)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodys-natural-pheromone-and-link-to-race/43891/19 "2010-12-12T23:12:09Z")

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Guys can we please get back on track here… I know threads where you deal with different races are always with in a comment of some fireworks, but the reality is we live in a multicultural society. I am interested in the effects on various ethnicities as I am sure some of the others are also…

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 12:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodys-natural-pheromone-and-link-to-race/43891/20 "2010-12-13T00:04:59Z")

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I think that yes certain mones can enhance a response with certain races. Although in my experience age plays a substantially bigger factor in how receptive females are to specific mones.  
For example I’ve gotten some very good hits with latin women wearing A314 which is mostly Rone. I’ve gotten some decent response from black women as well and while not as much as with latin women positive effects were in fact there in spite of wearing a lower None product.  
Conversely Asian’s are said to be more responsive to Rone and repelled by None. While I’m sure this can be true as a tendency I think it can be overcome and None can be extremely attractive to asian women when worn right.  
Race being a hot button issue please bear in mind I don’t support stereotypes but I’m a realist and deal with the fact that stereotypes DO exist and effect peoples perceptions. Asian males have a rough time in seduction due to a lot of stereotypes about them. Too shy, timid, reserved, nerdy etc. There’s a group of Asian PUA’s specializing in helping Asian males overcome these stigma’s, because they’re that prevalent. As a result some…not all, but some asian women can be very responsive to a strong None signature accompanied by a loud boisterous personality. It can seem more confident and masculine to them. Play the Jerk right and you can have Asian women giggling like schoolgirls because you’re almost a forbidden fruit…I’ve seen this reaction.  
While the same game and product could work great on a black or latin woman in her late teens to early 20’s, older ones, especially if they’re educated or somewhat successful career wise would be more responsive to the smooth A314 James Bond type of vibe.

When I first started I questioned the notion that younger women were turned off by high none even though younger males produced it. Seeing how young girls swooned over jocks and how prevalent interracial relationships were with young white girls dating black males I figured it had to be wrong. But the only time I get good reactions from young girls with a high none product is when it’s HEAVILY buffered. I get better reactions from Rone.

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