# bodytypes and pheromones

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodytypes-and-pheromones/13658>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 8, 2008, 7:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodytypes-and-pheromones/13658 "2008-06-08T07:49:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![K24](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k24/32/1513_2.png) [@K24](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K24)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 7:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodytypes-and-pheromones/13658/1 "2008-06-08T07:49:33Z")

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I remember reading once that fat people(no offence) tend to produce more -nol and less -none. It’s a known fact that people with higher bodyfat has higher estrogen level (thus relatively lower testosterone level).

come to think of it, I find it quite accurate because I generally find fat or overweight people more approachable, I feel more “at-ease” around them and become more chatty, I also find bodybuilders with low bodyfat relatively harder to approach due to their “lean and aggressive nature”. anyone else felt the same??

so from next week on I will try higher doses of -Anol see what happens.  
My conclusion is that people with higher bodyfat should use a little more -none. and people who are physically very fit and carries very little bodyfat should use less -none and focus more on the social products for everyday activity, this is especially true if they have a high protein diet and have bloody type O.

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**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 8:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodytypes-and-pheromones/13658/2 "2008-06-08T08:08:09Z")

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Maybe true… but there are outliers like… umm… Bill Clinton. Maybe not an aggressive, “hard” type guy, but he seems to chase enough women.

Is this why people think fat people are jolly?

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**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 8:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodytypes-and-pheromones/13658/3 "2008-06-08T08:40:53Z")

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> [@Daedelus76](#):
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> Maybe true… but there are outliers like… umm… Bill Clinton. Maybe not an aggressive, “hard” type guy, but he seems to chase enough women.
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> Is this why people think fat people are jolly?

We’re not always jolly. 😉 But seriously, yes I think this is true. Testosterone is produced when you’re physically active, and fat people as a rule are more sedentary. So it’s not necessarily a case of producing _more_ -nol, rather the -nol that is produced isn’t buffered by the -none that normally is produced with physical activity. It’s funny thinking in terms of buffering -nol with -none when it’s usually the other way around.

-D4

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**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 9:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodytypes-and-pheromones/13658/4 "2008-06-08T09:08:43Z")

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That’s what I was thinking too… _overweight_ people wouldn’t produce more androstenol, just less androstenone.

So, theoretically Asians should find big white guys more attractive than thin white guys? Wonder if that plays out in reality.

According to Pheroprofiler, I’m highest in androstenone (over 5.1), and I believe this plays out in my experiments with androstenone. I’m slightly overweight, BTW, about 15 lbs. I’m not an aggressive type person in my values. When I haven’t showered, I find after a few days of this I become more of an animal- passionate/moody, a bit edgey, need space, etc. Lots of emotions we might assosciate with androstenone. Bruce Banner to Incredible Hulk. Blood type is A. It could be my personality compounding the effects of the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/), too. If you’ve got less socialization experience, that would probably make you more “congruent” with androstenone, right?

BTW, I just decided to throw up a wolf avatar. I’ve always felt like a wolf for a long time, you know, it must be my totem animal or something. I like cats as companions, though. Wonder what that means? … I’m turning into a Furry? 🙂

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**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 9:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodytypes-and-pheromones/13658/5 "2008-06-08T09:26:33Z")

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It’s funny you mention Bruce Banner and the Hulk, as I almost made a reference to that in the post I made in your journal, as an illustration of you slowly becoming accustomed to the effects -none has on you.

I liked your previous avatar, though. Deus Ex is one of the best PC games made, imo. Sucks that part 2 was horrible. Here’s hoping the rumored part 3 in development goes back to what made it great. Cheesy acting, large levels, and customizations. Did I mention cheesy acting? 😃

Don’t worry. I’ve got 3 cats, 1 dog, and I used to have a pair of flying squirrels. If hunting humans for sport ever became legal, it’d be open season on furries. Take from that what you will. 😉

-D4

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 2:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodytypes-and-pheromones/13658/6 "2008-06-08T14:00:11Z")

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I don’t think its has anything to do with attraction really but more to do with them coming across as less threatening or aggressive because they make a lower amount of anone due to being sedentary

Tisha

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 5:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodytypes-and-pheromones/13658/7 "2008-06-08T17:09:21Z")

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> [@Daedelus76](#):
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> So, theoretically Asians should find big white guys more attractive than thin white guys? Wonder if that plays out in reality.

I don’t think so.

> [@Daedelus76](#):
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> BTW, I just decided to throw up a wolf avatar. I’ve always felt like a wolf for a long time, you know, it must be my totem animal or something. I like cats as companions, though. Wonder what that means? … I’m turning into a Furry? 🙂

I don’t know, it probably means as much as me being attuned to ‘wolves’ but liking dogs as companions rather than cats. I wouldn’t look too much into it. 😃 As long as your avatar makes you happy.

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 5:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodytypes-and-pheromones/13658/8 "2008-06-08T17:41:54Z")

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> come to think of it, I find it quite accurate because I generally find fat or overweight people more approachable, I feel more “at-ease” around them and become more chatty, I also find bodybuilders with low bodyfat relatively harder to approach due to their “lean and aggressive nature”. anyone else felt the same??

I’m exactly the opposite of you and find big ones less approachable compared to lean and fit ones. Probably just a personal and/or cultural preference.

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**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 5:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodytypes-and-pheromones/13658/9 "2008-06-08T17:55:38Z")

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Yes, I am a big fan of that game, and I actually did like the sequel, I must be the only person that does… Just so I get under people skin a little, I played as the _female_ Alex Denton, too. And I love the cheesy acting. Don’t worry, JC will be back as my avatar one of these days (and “my vision is augmented”, seemed like a great line from the game that fits me.)

Actually, JC Denton sort of reminds me a bit of pheromones, as he’s basicly a blank slate that doesn’t have alot of personality of his own, you read into him whatever you as the player want to, plus the decisions you make in the game. He can be basicly a pacifist James Bond or Vin Diesel (but, and big but… he must also be pretty much asexual, for some reason).. There are definitely parallels between “roleplaying” and pheromones.

I do think body type effects how I percieve people. I’ve seen some scary rail thin, for instance. They just don’t seem to radiate any approachability. Some of the most hostile people I’ve met are thin, semi-muscular or scrawny. I haven’t met too many “fat guys” that I felt intimidated to be near. It just depends on your personality in the end, I suppose.

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**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 7:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bodytypes-and-pheromones/13658/10 "2008-09-04T07:23:16Z")

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What is Pheroprofiler?
