# Bolkie's Quest for Lovin' **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [October 7, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405 "2010-10-07T13:42:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 12:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405/121 "2011-04-06T00:03:50Z")
> [@Bolkie](#): > > Well, I kinda should have known this shit is too weird for people to have an opinion about šŸ˜‰ > > No harm is done though šŸ™‚ I can help with this, but I am busy with stuff first of the week. PATIENCE šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405/122 "2011-04-06T20:08:34Z")
You donā€™t need a girl to practice kissing. Get yourself a freaking apple or orange and kiss sensual. If you must, pick yourself up some ā€œblowjobā€ sex toy at the local porn store and practice kissing it. They make them feel like skin and they come with a tongue and lips. Yes I know, because I used to have a company that hired girls to have those parties. You are selling yourself short again Bolkie. Every single person in the world, without exception, has had to learn to kiss. Watch some kissing videos on youtube: [http://www.youtube.com/results?search\_query=how+to+kiss&aq=f](http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+kiss&aq=f) there are HUNDREDS of them. You donā€™t need to hire someone you can even practice on your hand. Next your going to want to hire some nasty skank ho prostitute and pay her to eat perform oral sex? I really hope not. You cannot do wrong when you kiss if you are passionate about it and just follow her lead. Always, and I do mean always, tease her. Go in for the kiss, actually brush her lips with yours and then pull away. Tease her till she rips your clothes off and humps you. Look at yourself in the mirror and practice with air. The first time I ever kissed a girl, long before I knew a thing about seduction, she said I was the best kisser she ever had. I just kissed her like I felt I should - with complete abandon and passion. There is no right or wrong way. Youā€™re thinking way to much. I swear I am coming to where you are and giving you a complete brain transplant. Iā€™m going to use the vulcan mind meld on you! ---
**Author:** ![Korths](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/korths/32/718_2.png) [@Korths](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Korths)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 11:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405/123 "2011-04-06T23:41:36Z")
I agree with Steve, checkout the highest ranked video he linked, or here it is: [link brokenā€™] ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/a/ae5fa4d24430dd5c512ccca4269dbe081d657dfe.png) ---
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405/124 "2011-04-21T15:52:47Z")
Thanks for the links. I am very upset about something for the last couple of weeks and I need to know if it something to be genuinely bothered about or if it is something I am blowing out of proportions. I understand I do that sometimes, this whole situation is kicking my ass. Seen two psychologists lately, but they do not understand what my problem is. They cannot relate I think. Iā€™ve told you guys earlier about the friendzone/oneitis girl. I broke contact with her, but that did not last very long. I know that is wrong, but I cannot help it. She is the only woman in my age group actually interacting with me. so I am drawn to her I guess. Every nerve in my body is attracted to her, better something that sucks then nothing at all. Anywho. I even discussed this friendzone thing with her and I think she tries to understand the concept, but it is not something she can relate to because she is an attractive woman. She tells me stuff like that she loves me etc.. She knows all about my problems, even that she is a catalyst. To make a long story short. I asked her to give me my first kiss, as kissing instructor or something. She refuses everytime I bring it up. It is totally out of the question. Even though ā€˜she loves meā€™. She kissed dozens of guys in her lifetime and continues to do so on a regular basis. Complete strangersā€¦ Now I need to have an opinion. I told her how important it is to me. This kissing thing is definately a mental and physical barrier that prevents me from ever trying it with a woman I would like. But no argument, however strong (in my view atleast) can make her change her mind. Even though I understand it would be a one time thing. And it is not sex. But what bothers me the most. If a man and woman would really be friends, and not in some kind of fucked relation this has to be, wouldnā€™t it be something one should do? Itā€™s not like I am asking for a kidney. I am really bothered by this. Wouldnā€™t you do the same thing for a ā€˜dearā€™ friend? I would. Or do I not have an objective opinion in this matter? (which makes sense). What would you do and/or view this situation if you were in my shoes? ---
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405/125 "2011-05-11T21:40:13Z")
I guess my last post was an extremely weird one again. My apologies. Sometimes I just feel the need to tell people stuff. At that moment I am not really aware that is not normal what I am disclosing. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 9:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405/126 "2011-05-11T21:44:07Z")
> [@Bolkie](#): > > I guess my last post was an extremely weird one again. My apologies. Sometimes I just feel the need to tell people stuff. At that moment I am not really aware that is not normal what I am disclosing. Missed you my friend. You shouldnā€™t have asked her, you should grab her and kiss her. So what if its awkward, but its more so if you make it seem like she is doing you the favor. Youā€™re doing her the favor. You are the prize ---
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405/127 "2011-05-11T22:01:38Z")
I missed you guys too. But I am not bringing any fun stuff to the party here on a regular basis, so I am keeping a low profile. She and I have already established that I am not a prize. Not even close. So if I would grab her and try to kiss her she would probably hit me and/or knee me in the balls. Also, her dad is a higher-up in the police force. I donā€™t want a criminal record. I got my doctor to send me to a psychiatrist in the hospital. I have recently found out what Aspergerā€™s Syndrome is. I am recognizing an alarming high number of symptoms in myself. It is like pieces of a puzzle come together. Pretty freaky. I donā€™t know if having a diagnosis will be valuable or something. It is not like there is a cure. Then again, I might not have it. I am still waiting for an intake. I heard the entire course from intake towards diagnosis (if any) takes a year. ---
**Author:** ![rolandcubed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@rolandcubed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolandcubed)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 9:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405/128 "2011-05-23T21:59:29Z")
Iā€™m no doctor. But like steve says, if you tease her youā€™re denying her what she wants. If youā€™re teasing a kiss, shes going to eventually force a kiss out of you and at that point you donā€™t even have to worry about whether or not youā€™re good as sheā€™ll be eating your face off! ---
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 8:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405/129 "2011-05-24T20:25:29Z")
> [@rolandcubed](#): > > Iā€™m no doctor. > > But like steve says, if you tease her youā€™re denying her what she wants. If youā€™re teasing a kiss, shes going to eventually force a kiss out of you and at that point you donā€™t even have to worry about whether or not youā€™re good as sheā€™ll be eating your face off! That is sound advice. But there has never been a situation when there was a possibility to ā€˜tease a kissā€™. That is a couple of bridges too far for me. So I understand all the theory but there is never a playing field to test it in. And I am afraid there never will be one. I appreciate the advice though ! ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 8:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405/130 "2011-05-24T20:49:16Z")
Iā€™d say kiss someone you are not ā€œasā€ attracted to for practise. If itā€™s kissing with her and thatā€™s a limerance fantasy then something is already off chemically. Sheā€™s your drug and you are becoming chemically dependent on her. A proper [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) dosage is supposed to counter-act such imbalances. Iā€™m sorry, I have not read your thread earlier, but did you try to dose yourself with TUTH or IJ around her? Iā€™d imagine Iā€™d dose myself with those in a similar situation. I see you used 1 spray of IJ. Think the dosage was too small. Try it with 3 or a high dosage, combine it with TUTH (2 times) and A314 and a high dosage of IS. IS is particular important so you donā€™t give her the power to make you feel bad if she rejects your advances ā€“ high dose of that. Remember, your friend you have a crush on is simply a subject for your pheromone experiments, nothing more. This mentality puts you in the driverā€™s seat, not her. You need to test out your products with her and see how they affect her perception of you over time. ---
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 9:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405/131 "2011-05-24T21:06:17Z")
> [@Luke\_Skywalker](#): > > Iā€™d say kiss someone you are not ā€œasā€ attracted to for practise. If itā€™s kissing with her and thatā€™s a limerance fantasy then something is already off chemically. Sheā€™s your drug and you are becoming chemically dependent on her. A proper pheromone dosage is supposed to counter-act such imbalances. Iā€™m sorry, I have not read your thread earlier, but did you try to dose yourself with TUTH or IJ around her? Iā€™d imagine Iā€™d dose myself with those in a similar situation. > > I see you used 1 spray of IJ. Think the dosage was too small. Try it with 3 or a high dosage, combine it with TUTH (2 times) and A314 and a high dosage of IS. IS is particular important so you donā€™t give her the power to make you feel bad if she rejects your advances ā€“ high dose of that. > > Remember, your friend you have a crush on is simply a subject for your pheromone experiments, nothing more. This mentality puts you in the driverā€™s seat, not her. You need to test out your products with her and see how they affect her perception of you over time. Thank you for your input. It seems I did not specify enough. I have tried all sorts of combinations on her. TUTH, couple of IJ sprays, Ammo, high -none, low -none, high -rone, cover, no cover. I even pherobombed once or twice. All the time there was ZERO reaction from her, or from any other woman for that matter. It is hopeless. Only option I have left is to use my never used bottle of 30mcg -none spray, that was a faulty order delivered to me. Though it will let me smell like piss. Also there was never in my life a possibility to ā€˜practiseā€™ on less attractive women. They treat me the same as the hot ones. In fact I have never had a ā€˜hitā€™ or reaction from a mone (on a woman) ever. This is a pretty dull journal, there is never something to report. The only thing that seems to work for me is a314, but this I use at work and/or to take away nervousness when dealing with something scary or important. IS doesnā€™t even work on myself. ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 9:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405/132 "2011-05-24T21:38:56Z")
Well, guess you are on tract for a 200% refund. At least youā€™ve settled in your mind that these products do not work with you. Also try mixing the A314 with some of the other pheromones ā€“ donā€™t just keep it for business. ---
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405/133 "2011-05-24T21:50:07Z")
> [@Luke\_Skywalker](#): > > Well, guess you are on tract for a 200% refund. At least youā€™ve settled in your mind that these products do not work with you. > > Also try mixing the A314 with some of the other pheromones ā€“ donā€™t just keep it for business. I do not want a refund, I would refuse it. And I am sure they work, just not for me (seduction purposes at least). A314 works, I dont know why, but it does. I did the mixing with other products, did not seem to work, it was like I only had a314 on me. ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 10:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405/134 "2011-05-24T22:03:04Z")
> [@Bolkie](#): > > I do not want a refund, I would refuse it. And I am sure they work, just not for me (seduction purposes at least). A314 works, I dont know why, but it does. I did the mixing with other products, did not seem to work, it was like I only had a314 on me. They put some conditions on it, like trying the products for one year and calling in for ā€œsocial trainingā€ so itā€™s not a blanket refund. Maybe you may get more hits in the course of a year? I have not bought the ā€œseductionā€ products either for the 200% refund challenge and have only got TO GO bottles and have temporarily abandoned the business challenge. I donā€™t know if they will work for me or not where it really counts, but since I only bought a few TO GO bottles, the financial risk is very small. ---
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 11:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405/135 "2011-05-25T11:01:04Z")
There is a challenge ? Am I participating without knowing ? ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 2:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405/136 "2011-05-25T14:08:47Z")
> [@Bolkie](#): > > There is a challenge ? Am I participating without knowing ? Thatā€™s my interpretation of their refund policy. The way I read it, Adroitics is double daring people to try out their products for one year. If within the year, you do not get any hits on their seduction products, or you donā€™t get at least 10 times the value of the A314/business application pheromones (A314, IH and IS), and their social training doesnā€™t help solve your problem, then you get double your money back. On the other hand, if you get hits, but they are not the quality of hits you want, or you donā€™t get the type of girl you want, or donā€™t get the business results (i.e you get 11 times the value of the bottle, but you want 20 times), then itā€™s just a refund. Again, life is how you interpret it. You say you have no hits, but Iā€™ve read this post and Iā€™d say people have interpreted, based on your information, that you got some hits. (i.e. like the Egyptian girl with the cigarette coming up to you and smiling, etcā€¦) You just may not have got the quality of hits (i.e. obvious and blatant hits), or you may not have got the type of girl that you want. However, you said you donā€™t want a refund on other principles and donā€™t see that as a public challenge by this corporation to dare people to try out their products. ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 1:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405/137 "2011-05-26T01:11:35Z")
My badā€¦I should mention that I got results from mixing IS (3-4 times 2 strength) with 2 drops of A314. You are like me and tend to segregate [pheromones for business](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) applications and seduction applications. In fact, this is the clearest and most obvious ā€œhitā€ to date I got was a cashier asking me if I did anything exciting today to start a convo with me. This hit completely blew my mind since cashiers usually donā€™t start any convo with me and itā€™s usually just very stiff. This was accidental because my intended use was to use IS and A314 for a business application, not to connect with a girl. Even with this ā€œhitā€ I still have this segregation mentality and purposely do not use A314 at all, even though it caused a hit. This black and white thinking is sort of counter-productive for us, eh? I would strongly suggest you use this mix, and look up other threads where people use this particular mix and try it out yourself. A314 is designed socially too to get women that you feel are ā€œout of your leagueā€. So, maybe the answer was under your nose all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 10:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405/138 "2011-05-27T22:48:56Z")
Thanks for the input and advice, Luke. A fellow forum member pointed me towards another forum, run by someone who is a user here also, about ā€˜subliminalsā€™. These are audio files, which use high frequency sounds, to reach the subconscious mind. I think it is fascinating and that it might help me. I have started ā€˜listeningā€™ at night to a subliminal intended to lift my confidence. Letā€™s hope it works, I am definately open to the idea of it helping me. ---
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 9:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405/139 "2011-06-07T21:12:52Z")
I am in the mood to type some stuff. Letā€™s see what is on my mind and/or going on lately. It is my impression that the ā€˜confidenceā€™ subliminal is starting to work a little bit. The first couple nights I used it wrong, but I fixed that and it should be working allright now. I feel more ā€˜in the momentā€™. And I am less bothered by stuff I usually get depressed over. Itā€™s like I no longer give a damn. Is this what confidence tastes like ? Itā€™s a weird feeling but I kinda like it. I am still attending Yoga classes. My body is getting more flexible. My posture has probably improved, which I cannot really tell by myself. Believe it or not but I have gained 3cmā€™s of height since sept last year (173 -\>176cm / 5"8 -\>5"9). It appears a lot of exercises used in Yoga, are the same exercises one can read in those expensive ā€˜grow tallerā€™ e-books. The discs in the back get more loose, and this you gain in height. This is probably my maximum height though. I have read The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle. This shit makes sense. Now all of a sudden I understand what all those PUA guys mean when they say one needs to be present when trying to seduce and talk to women. I am now reading a book about curing depression by Mindfulness. This is basically the same idea, but written by clinical psychiatrists, so it is more practical. The last few weeks the following thought is recurring in my mind over and over: " How the hell can I ever expect a woman to like and love me, if I cannot like and love myself first ?" This probably sounds like a cliche for most of you, but I need to sort that out. It is like looking up at a mountain though. Weird topic: masturbation. I read some stuff about it lately, both scientific and not so much. What interests me the most is the supposed surge in t-levels after not ejaculating for 7 days. The levels rise progressively and so does the difficulty of abstaining. So I did some testing. It appears I feel better, more masculine, stronger, slightly happier when not masturbating for a couple of days. The first 24 hours after masturbating I feel somewhat more down. So this is definitely something to do some more experimenting with. Too bad it gets so frigging hard (pun intended) after a couple of days. I am a 29yo horny dude. Are men with higher testosterone levels more happy in general and do they live more in the present? I just realized something, and this is in no way a complaint: why is it that the female posters never post in this thread? I see them doing it at other male journals. Kinda strange šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![rolandcubed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@rolandcubed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolandcubed)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 4:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405/140 "2011-06-11T04:53:35Z")
Interesting! why not also start a journal over at their forums? people over there would love to hear about your progress. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405.md?page=6) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bolkies-quest-for-lovin/42405.md?page=8)