# Boosting natural phero production. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 28, 2009, 7:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/boosting-natural-phero-production/33672 "2009-10-28T19:10:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tester5000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@Tester5000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tester5000)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 7:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/boosting-natural-phero-production/33672/1 "2009-10-28T19:10:30Z")
What can you do /should you avoid? I´m assuming: 1. general fitness 2. avoiding toxins (smoking / alcohol.) 3. Cutting down on wanking (was mentioned in another thread…) 4. how does the amount of showering affect production? use of skin cream ect… to the point where other smells start to become repelling… 5. Any particular foods? 6. how about sex? with same partner… / different partners… 7. stress and sleep patterns… ---
**Author:** ![interestedone09](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/interestedone09/32/760_2.png) [@interestedone09](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/interestedone09)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 8:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/boosting-natural-phero-production/33672/2 "2009-11-02T20:40:34Z")
> [@Tester5000](#): > > What can you do /should you avoid? > > I´m assuming: > > 1. general fitness > > 2. avoiding toxins (smoking / alcohol.) > > 3. Cutting down on wanking (was mentioned in another thread…) > > 4. how does the amount of showering affect production? use of skin cream ect… to the point where other smells start to become repelling… > > 5. Any particular foods? > > 6. how about sex? with same partner… / different partners… > > 7. stress and sleep patterns… 1. Being all around healthy definitely helps big time. Lifting weights increases testosterone which I assume also helps increase [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) productions. (I’ve been slacking in the lifting area lately) 2. (I think that this falls under category #1) 3. I think that I would only worry about very excessive numbers, because it somewhat resembles sex. I’m sure the first 1-3 times during the day, your body isn’t too sure that you’re doing it yourself. Plus, not having a regular release can lead to prostate cancer. . . seriously. 4. I don’t think that showering turns down your production, but it definitely washes away what you produced. And antiperspirant deodorant blocks it from being released efficiently. 5. Celery has been reported to aid in natural -none production. 6. I think that as long as you are having good sex, your body will appreciate it. 7. Stress and sleep patterns do have something to do with it. Maybe not so much the production, but definitely on your mood, which is very important anyways. (I don’t sleep well, ever =/ lol) ---
**Author:** ![Tester5000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@Tester5000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tester5000)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/boosting-natural-phero-production/33672/3 "2009-11-02T21:23:57Z")
Eating celery - check! I can do that! had some last year… and some about 2 years before that… other than that I drink excessively about once every 6 to 8 weeks, smoke about 60 grams of tobacco a week. I can’t fall asleep most nights without a shag or a wank though… (my prostate must be having a blast) but then I sleep like a dream! (can only recommend it if you have trouble sleeping!) Exercise? hmmm… I run to the train station allot so I don’t miss my train! does that count? Can do about 30 push-ups in a set… Weights arn’t my thing, I’m more of an ectomorph - tall and skinny. Not a chance of gaining weight other than on my belly - loose too much and I look like DEATH! Last year I was jogging 14 Km a day in about an hour - slacking this year… 32 years old, but don’t feel a year over 20! Stress… nah.. not my thing! i avoid it or work through it where possible! Nope - no anti-persperants here, just good old Deoderant. and some Ismiaki or CK …had my little ladybug curled up under my arm all afternoon today! Must be doing something right. Thanks man! PS: wasn’t there something about pineapple juice? or does that just make your seamen taist sweet? ---
**Author:** ![interestedone09](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/interestedone09/32/760_2.png) [@interestedone09](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/interestedone09)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/boosting-natural-phero-production/33672/4 "2009-11-03T03:41:28Z")
> [@](#): > > Eating celery - check! I can do that! had some last year… and some about 2 years before that… > > other than that I drink excessively about once every 6 to 8 weeks, smoke about 60 grams of tobacco a week. Sounds like you’re doing just about everything right; just a few recommendations. I’d space the drinking out more, instead of binge drinking. For example, I tend to have a few drinks about 3-4 nights a week, but barely ever drink excessively. And I also enjoy the occasional cigar; but you might want to cut down on the smoke some. Other than that, have a celery stalk every once in a while and you’re good to go (run to the train) lol > [@](#): > > PS: wasn’t there something about pineapple juice? or does that just make your seamen taist sweet? Yep, you’re right on with that. It makes you taste sweeter, but I’ll let you in on a little secret. Cut out some smoke, and don’t drink excessively too often, and try not to consume over the daily salt value and you’re good dude. ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 7:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/boosting-natural-phero-production/33672/5 "2009-11-04T07:18:44Z")
cutting down on wanking? what’s the point of life then? ---
**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 11:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/boosting-natural-phero-production/33672/6 "2009-11-04T11:26:04Z")
> [@meow333x](#): > > cutting down on wanking? what’s the point of life then? Getting someone else to do it? I dunno =\ Live to wank, or wank to live? ---
**Author:** ![Tester5000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@Tester5000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tester5000)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 11:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/boosting-natural-phero-production/33672/7 "2009-11-04T11:37:31Z")
> [@LeafStamp](#): > > Getting someone else to do it? > > I dunno =\ > > Live to wank, or wank to live? LOL I think that the seriousness of this thread got lost somewhere along the line! 😃 Like a friend of mine says, “He who hesitates, masturbates!” ---
**Author:** ![interestedone09](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/interestedone09/32/760_2.png) [@interestedone09](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/interestedone09)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 1:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/boosting-natural-phero-production/33672/8 "2009-11-04T13:54:06Z")
> [@Tester5000](#): > > Like a friend of mine says, “He who hesitates, masturbates!” I think we’ve got something going here because. . . “He who masturbates, has lasting dates!” 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Tester5000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@Tester5000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tester5000)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 1:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/boosting-natural-phero-production/33672/9 "2009-11-05T01:04:37Z")
this is getting poetic _grin_ In my bed for sleep I wait, If I don’t fuck or masturbate! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 10:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/boosting-natural-phero-production/33672/10 "2009-11-05T10:41:26Z")
All of the things you suggested help maintain a higher testosterone level. Some of the most important though diet and fitness. Being muscular helps maintain normal levels of testosterone. This is in part why when men age their testosterone levels decrease. Men begin losing muscle tone faster starting at around 30 to 40. Eating foods high in zinc helps. Celery has natural testosterone in it but zinc helps maintains the levels better. Oysters, whole grains and red meat are high in zinc. Oh and I thought I would mention that wanking off wont effect your testosterone levels. It just effects the amount of testosterone in your semen and the amount of semen you produce. You still maintain normal levels in the body. So wank away if the desire hits you. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 11:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/boosting-natural-phero-production/33672/11 "2009-11-05T11:43:40Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Oh and I thought I would mention that wanking off wont effect your testosterone levels. It just effects the amount of testosterone in your semen and the amount of semen you produce. You still maintain normal levels in the body. So wank away if the desire hits you. > > Tisha It sounds so dirty when you say it, Tisha 😛 ---
**Author:** ![peregrine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/peregrine/32/499_2.png) [@peregrine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/peregrine)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 1:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/boosting-natural-phero-production/33672/12 "2009-11-05T13:17:02Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Being muscular helps maintain normal levels of testosterone. This is in part why when men age their testosterone levels decrease. Men begin losing muscle tone faster starting at around 30 to 40. > > Only some guys. I’m still waiting to start puberty!!😉 > > Oh and I thought I would mention that wanking off wont effect your testosterone levels. It just effects the amount of testosterone in your semen and the amount of semen you produce. You still maintain normal levels in the body. So wank away if the desire hits you. > > Tisha If your wankers big enough wanking could be considered exercise…personally I have to spend 7 hours a week in the gym. Oh well.😛😛 ---
**Author:** ![falcos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/falcos/32/1189_2.png) [@falcos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/falcos)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/boosting-natural-phero-production/33672/13 "2009-11-05T16:39:31Z")
Hey I started my journal today after yesterday reading this subject, I searched and learned some about how to boost your natural phermones, since I add all the work to write it there you will forgive me but I encourage you to go read it there. Your free to negativily rep me (dont know how it works) 😃 if you dont like it and think is a waist of time. Just dont neg rep me now without reading it, its a damm long post (not all about phermones boosting) 😛. ---
**Author:** ![interestedone09](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/interestedone09/32/760_2.png) [@interestedone09](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/interestedone09)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/boosting-natural-phero-production/33672/14 "2009-11-05T17:43:31Z")
> [@falcos](#): > > Hey I started my journal today after yesterday reading this subject, I searched and learned some about how to boost your natural phermones, since I add all the work to write it there you will forgive me but I encourage you to go read it there. Your free to negativily rep me (dont know how it works) 😃 if you dont like it and think is a waist of time. Just dont neg rep me now without reading it, its a damm long post (not all about phermones boosting) 😛. Do you have a link to where the journal is? ---
**Author:** ![falcos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/falcos/32/1189_2.png) [@falcos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/falcos)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/boosting-natural-phero-production/33672/15 "2009-11-05T17:45:28Z")
its in the jornals area under the name of falcos journal 🙂 here is the link: > [@Falcos jornal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/falcos-jornal/33849): > > Ok this will not be a convecional jornal where I post the results of pherormones testings but the journal were I change myself with my newfond conviction and maybe help you change your selfs to. Why am I doing this, well I get a reallity check made by steve that made me see things in a different prespective, actually not the prespectice he was trying to make me see, but has I think the right prespective to look at. So how did it start? Well I came here to find a magic formula on hot to win a gi… ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 12:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/boosting-natural-phero-production/33672/16 "2009-11-06T00:00:26Z")
> [@falcos](#): > > Hey I started my journal today after yesterday reading this subject, I searched and learned some about how to boost your natural phermones, since I add all the work to write it there you will forgive me but I encourage you to go read it there. Your free to negativily rep me (dont know how it works) 😃 if you dont like it and think is a waist of time. Just dont neg rep me now without reading it, its a damm long post (not all about phermones boosting) 😛. I want you to add work on confidence level to your list. Why would we neg rep you ? Its a great post 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![falcos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/falcos/32/1189_2.png) [@falcos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/falcos)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 12:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/boosting-natural-phero-production/33672/17 "2009-11-06T00:16:57Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I want you to add work on confidence level to your list. Why would we neg rep you ? Its a great post 😉 > > Tisha Thanks tisha, work on confidence level already added 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Tester5000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@Tester5000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tester5000)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/boosting-natural-phero-production/33672/18 "2009-11-06T16:16:30Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > …]Oh and I thought I would mention that wanking off wont effect your testosterone levels. It just effects the amount of testosterone in your semen and the amount of semen you produce. You still maintain normal levels in the body. So wank away if the desire hits you. > > Tisha Good to know! which brings me to my next question, are blow jobs classified under Intercourse or under Masturbation? (…and I don’t want any silly quibs along the lines of “It depends whether she spits or swallows.”) ---
**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 9:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/boosting-natural-phero-production/33672/19 "2009-11-06T21:21:53Z")
Let me suggest zinc magnesium asparate (ZMA) for increased testosterone production. That seems to increase natural pheromone production as a result. I’m in late middle age so my T production declines naturally. Taking ZMA at bed time causes me to wake up with a woody 2 mornings out of three. The recommended dosage is three capsules but I find two a night is fine. Also, I cycle it something like two weeks on one week off. The stuff is fairly cheap at health food stores in the US. The zinc helps in the conversions of general steroid into androgens at the enzyme level. The magnesium makes one drowsy but you take it before bed anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Tester5000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@Tester5000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tester5000)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 9:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/boosting-natural-phero-production/33672/20 "2009-11-06T21:56:59Z")
Hell, I wake up with a woody\* 3 mornings out of 2. (but I’m only 32) -and I can’t fall asleep most nights without a release… …but that brings me to my next question! Does swallowing have an effect on HER natural pheromone production? My thesis is YES because I feel an immediate sense of attraction. \*I remember reading somewhere that the sleeping erection is a natural protection against wetting yourself while in dream state… [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/boosting-natural-phero-production/33672.md?page=2)