# Bought a full bottle of Instant Jerk and scared to wear it: isn't it an instant OD? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 10, 2010, 11:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378 "2010-01-10T23:47:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![nobrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90ced4/32.png) [@nobrain](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nobrain)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 1:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378/41 "2010-01-12T13:01:40Z")
> [@spicehot](#): > > Where they’re getting that information? From themselves! > Do you need a scientist to tell you that if you put your hand on fire it’s gonna hurt? I think you can figure that out by youself… No, but science can easily PROVE that fact. WHY can’t science even – as your fellow pheromone supporter suggested – prove that pheromones exist in humans and that we can detect them if the effects are so obvious? A scientific study into “does fire burn you” is not needed, because it is obvious. The scientific community would agree 100% that fire can burn you. The science community does NOT agree 100% that pheromones even effect humans much less that they have the specific effects claim here. So, your supposition is not a valid one. ---
**Author:** ![spicehot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/spicehot/32/530_2.png) [@spicehot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spicehot)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 1:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378/42 "2010-01-12T13:28:25Z")
> [@nobrain](#): > > No, but science can easily PROVE that fact. WHY can’t science even – as your fellow pheromone supporter suggested – prove that pheromones exist in humans and that we can detect them if the effects are so obvious? > > A scientific study into “does fire burn you” is not needed, because it is obvious. The scientific community would agree 100% that fire can burn you. > > The science community does NOT agree 100% that pheromones even effect humans much less that they have the specific effects claim here. > > So, your supposition is not a valid one. Suit yourself. If all that counts to you is scientific proof, I suggest you don’t even start with pheros. If you really have already placed an order, I suggest you return it. There’s a lot of thing in this life science cannot prove, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist. ---
**Author:** ![nobrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90ced4/32.png) [@nobrain](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nobrain)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 1:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378/43 "2010-01-12T13:34:55Z")
> [@spicehot](#): > > Suit yourself. If all that counts to you is scientific proof, I suggest you don’t even start with pheros. > If you really have already placed an order, I suggest you return it. Why? Undoubtedly the pheromones will prove to me they exist when I experiment with them. The obvious self-evident effects of the pheromones will prevail, no? In just a few weeks of experimentation and documentation I, like you, will be able to “prove” to myself what science has not yet been able to prove! I am excited - it is fun to be a pioneer. ---
**Author:** ![Des\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/des_1/32/695_2.png) [@Des\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Des_1)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378/44 "2010-01-12T16:19:43Z")
ok since it seems as tho my point was ignored… let me try this again 🙂 scientific method: - **Ask a Question** - **Do Background Research** - **Construct a Hypothesis** - **Test Your Hypothesis by Doing an Experiment** - **Analyze Your Data and Draw a Conclusion** - **Communicate Your Results** that is what is going on right now, there’s not the scientific data your looking for because we are still in the stage where we are learning about it, and we are learning about it by user feedback. 200 people all trying one product and saying it did close to the same thing… screw science thats enough evidence for me. why don’t you just buy a 12 dollar togo of something and oh I don’t know, give it a try! and I’m really not sure of what kind of scientific data your looking for… ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378/45 "2010-01-12T16:30:16Z")
I think you missed both my post, though the link won’t work for some odd reason, and mikotos post. Both show that certain molecules have a known effect on people. Hell, I even PMed you the link and you didn’t respond. ---
**Author:** ![nobrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90ced4/32.png) [@nobrain](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nobrain)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378/46 "2010-01-12T17:01:56Z")
> [@Des](#): > > that is what is going on right now, _ **there’s not the scientific data your looking for because we are still in the stage where we are learning about it** _, and we are learning about it by user feedback. 200 people all trying one product and saying it did close to the same thing… screw science thats enough evidence for me. why don’t you just buy a 12 dollar togo of something and oh I don’t know, give it a try! and I’m really not sure of what kind of scientific data your looking for… If there is not the scientific data now, why are people making claims? I did order a bottle and will see for myself. But like other snake oil (not saying these products are snake oil) there are ‘fail safes’ for data that doesn’t gel with the marketeers claims. ---
**Author:** ![nobrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90ced4/32.png) [@nobrain](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nobrain)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378/47 "2010-01-12T17:05:37Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > I think you missed both my post, though the link won’t work for some odd reason, and mikotos post. > > Both show that certain molecules have a known effect on people. Hell, I even PMed you the link and you didn’t respond. The show that molecules have a known effect on people. I saw that. But they do NOT show the pheromones promoted here have the effects claimed here. I can show you a study that shows that a certain drug causes temporary paralysis but just because that shows that drugs can cause paralysis doesn’t mean I can say my drug can do this and that – because a particular drug has been shown to have an effect. The fact that certain molecules have an effect on people is obvious. What is not so obvious is WHAT molecules have WHAT effect and IF they can be achieved through topical application ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378/48 "2010-01-12T17:59:50Z")
Alright well, I’m done arguing as it pretty much is going nowhere. Can’t wait to hear your results once you get your products nobrain 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![spicehot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/spicehot/32/530_2.png) [@spicehot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spicehot)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378/49 "2010-01-12T18:12:15Z")
I’m starting to wonder where that username of yours came from…🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Des\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/des_1/32/695_2.png) [@Des\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Des_1)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378/50 "2010-01-12T18:51:53Z")
and if you do decide it’s snake oil.. you get a 200% money back so really… I don’t care if they are selling snake oil cause there market wouldn’t get very far if they had to keep on throwing out double the costumers cash back to em. just sayin. but yea, thank you all for the help I’ma have to just man up and give this stuff a try ---
**Author:** ![nobrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90ced4/32.png) [@nobrain](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nobrain)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 8:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378/51 "2010-01-12T20:29:51Z")
> [@Des](#): > > and if you do decide it’s snake oil.. you get a 200% money back so really… I don’t care if they are selling snake oil cause there market wouldn’t get very far if they had to keep on throwing out double the costumers cash back to em. just sayin. > > but yea, thank you all for the help I’ma have to just man up and give this stuff a try Their 200% cash back applies to only those who “try their products for one year” and is basically a gimmick. Sorry, but that is the reality. The VAST VAST VAST majority of people will have moved-on within a year. If you really look at the 200% guarantee you will see it for what it is – marketing. I will let you know the results of my testing. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378/52 "2010-01-12T21:22:13Z")
> [@nobrain](#): > > Their 200% cash back applies to only those who “try their products for one year” and is basically a gimmick. Sorry, but that is the reality. The VAST VAST VAST majority of people will have moved-on within a year. If you really look at the 200% guarantee you will see it for what it is – marketing. I will let you know the results of my testing. Guarantee you if you try to get your refund before the year they would give it to you. ---
**Author:** ![nobrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90ced4/32.png) [@nobrain](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nobrain)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 9:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378/53 "2010-01-12T21:24:02Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > Guarantee you if you try to get your refund before the year they would give it to you. 200% refund… Doubt it. What if I placed a $100,000 order and was unhappy – I can double my investment in just a few weeks? ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 9:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378/54 "2010-01-12T21:25:06Z")
The fact they haven’t banned you from the forum should be another sign that there just might be something to all of this. ---
**Author:** ![nobrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90ced4/32.png) [@nobrain](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nobrain)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378/55 "2010-01-12T21:27:26Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > Who is gonna place a $100,000 order on something they are skeptical about? > > The fact they haven’t banned you from the forum should be another sign that there just might be something to all of this. Why would I be banned? I was banned from anabolic minds for being skeptical there (google “aspire 36 Chinese drug” - I am taylhis). Actually I was ripped apart by the readers, then banned. But read through the entire thread (sorry, 6 pages) and see the results. ---
**Author:** ![spurs61](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/spurs61/32/666_2.png) [@spurs61](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spurs61)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 9:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378/56 "2010-01-12T21:35:12Z")
The proof is here for you to read. The reports here are genuine I have seen amazing results with these products. Open your mind and join in on a great experience! ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378/57 "2010-01-12T21:36:29Z")
Why? What was wrong with Aspire? That thing gave me a headache. > [@nobrain](#): > > Why would I be banned? I was banned from anabolic minds for being skeptical there (google “aspire 36 Chinese drug” - I am taylhis). Actually I was ripped apart by the readers, then banned. But read through the entire thread (sorry, 6 pages) and see the results. ---
**Author:** ![Lacosteboy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lacosteboy/32/1661_2.png) [@Lacosteboy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lacosteboy)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378/58 "2010-01-12T22:11:12Z")
> [@nobrain](#): > > Why would I be banned? I was banned from anabolic minds for being skeptical there (google “aspire 36 Chinese drug” - I am taylhis). Actually I was ripped apart by the readers, then banned. But read through the entire thread (sorry, 6 pages) and see the results. dude.. if you dont believe pheros have effects on you or people.. what r u doin in this forum?? seriously, i think youre just writing in the wrong forum… ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 11:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378/59 "2010-01-12T23:43:06Z")
> [@nobrain](#): > > Why? Undoubtedly the pheromones will prove to me they exist when I experiment with them. The obvious self-evident effects of the pheromones will prevail, no? **In just a few weeks** of experimentation and documentation I, like you, will be able to “prove” to myself what science has not yet been able to prove! I am excited - it is fun to be a pioneer. You won’t find what you’re after in just a few weeks. I’ve been using pheromones for months now and I’m still learning about them and picking up on their effects. My prediction: you are going to douse yourself in pheromones everyday for a couple weeks. When girls don’t rape you and people don’t become your slaves you will call shenanigans and demand a refund. You will shout “I told you so!”, which ultimately means nothing because you will have missed out on something great by being so closed-minded. BTW, being an @$$ isn’t the way to get help when you need it. Most of the people here are very kind and willing to help, but not when you act like a baby. ---
**Author:** ![nobrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90ced4/32.png) [@nobrain](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nobrain)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378/60 "2010-01-13T00:57:45Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Why? What was wrong with Aspire? That thing gave me a headache. Read the thread. I said it contained drugs. Other on the forum, including the product manufacturers ripped me hard for the suggestion. Less than a month later the FDA cracked down on Aspire 36 - FOR CONTAINING DRUGS. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bought-a-full-bottle-of-instant-jerk-and-scared-to-wear-it-isnt-it-an-instant-od/35378.md?page=4)