# Brand New HS Guy **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [February 14, 2012, 3:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brand-new-hs-guy/54569 "2012-02-14T15:36:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![maxx55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@maxx55](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maxx55)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 3:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brand-new-hs-guy/54569/1 "2012-02-14T15:36:43Z")
I’m brand new to this community but have read a lot of the posts here. I’m 16 and im multiple ethnicities but mostly black with some white. U can call me max. I completely understand all precautions that have been told about younger users using none. I have read the entire comprehensive high school report thread. I would say that I am an active person. I try to workout a few times a week. I play sports when I can and I have used Dial Magnetic with the A1 in it. At first I thought I od 'd, but then i read the only OD effect it has is depression which I was completely unaffected by (I’ll give a report of what happened a little later) Mostly I noticed self effects from A1 (feeling very confident and very thinky but positively). I’ll tell a little more later. I hope this introduction earns me the $25 gift card. If not I’ll post more about myself when I can. Hello everyone! My goal is to use [pheromones](https://a314.com/) as a tool or an assistant to my betterment. I want to improve myself and my social life and I believe that with pheromones, it’ll be easier. I am already on my way to achieving that goal. My Phero Interests: Creating Alpha Respect, Fallout/Clingy Effect on Girls (White or Hispanic 14-17), and being more social and increasing my status (I’m already working on these things) And I just wanted to mention again that I fully believe in pheromones being a tool and not an instant permanent fix to life and it’s issues. And that their effects depend on the user 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Tacarov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tacarov/32/2132_2.png) [@Tacarov](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tacarov)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 4:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brand-new-hs-guy/54569/2 "2012-02-14T16:10:58Z")
Hey there max! Allow me to welcome you to the forums! It is really nice that you’ve read through all of those posts and realize that mones have great potential but rely on you, giving you an edge. You may or may not know that AD has decided not to sell A1 for a number of reason that go back a few years. We also have a number of posts about Dial Magnetic, If I remember correctly its effectiveness was rather ambiguous. No one knows how much a1 is in it and since it is used in the shower you are most likely washing off whatever it applies to you. I am however curious to read your findings with it, you may want to start a journal and post on that there. I believer based on your age that IG, IO and IH would be the best products for you. IG is something that at your age, is not being produced in great quantity. IG would help to separate you from your peers which are most already or soon to be swimming in none. IO and IH are great for social situations, IO causes people to become a bit more talkative, while IH can increase the speed and depth of bonding. If you are naturally social I would suggest you use IH based on quality of conversation vs sheer quantity. IS could also be great for you, provide a generally happy feeling to you and those around you. Edit: I would suggest staying away from TUTH and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) just for the time being. You are already producing none, so ammo is not likely to do too much to your phero signal. Tuth is extremely sexual, not something you want to be wearing unless you are going after cougars. It can and many times will SCARE young women and make you come off creepy. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brand-new-hs-guy/54569/3 "2012-02-14T16:38:22Z")
Hello and welcome to the forum. Glad to see that you already have a grasp on pheros and have actually started using them with the Dial Magnetic. I think it would be best for now to stick with IG and the social products: IO, IH and IShine. IG does not have any none in it - you are already producing plenty. What it will do for you is goive you a cool, calm smooth vibe that in turn can make you seem a little older. Which can certainly help open the dating pool in HS. The IO and IShine would be great for getting together with friends. You will seem like the life of the party - everything will be buzzing around you. IH will help people feel more connected to you and open up to you. And woemn often need to feel emotionally connected to someone before they want to connect physically with them. I hope this helps some. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 4:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brand-new-hs-guy/54569/4 "2012-02-14T16:43:32Z")
Hi there, max, and welcome to the mone forum! I do think the guys hit it right on with there recommendations. IG, check. IShine, CHECK, IO, CHECK!!! 🙂 I just want to underscore the need to be in congruence with your mone signature. Keep in mind that it will NOT do everything for you, though, it seems that you’ve already understood this point mentally. I suggest, if you haven’t already looked them over, to take a look at my sig below, the links to Intro to mones as well as how to know what are hits are excellent reads for people starting out with mones. Glad you could join us here and I’ll be looking for your journal, bud! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![maxx55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@maxx55](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maxx55)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brand-new-hs-guy/54569/5 "2012-02-14T17:00:10Z")
Ok guys. Thank you for your open welcomes. A few more questions though. What about products like A314 and [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/)? I was really hoping to eventually find a good mix for me based on A314, and Instant Jerk seems like it would be fun to use a few times. And also I understand spaceland isn’t available anymore, is there a good substitute for a straight up awesome off the wall party vibe? And is it possible to create the fallout effect without A314? ---
**Author:** ![Tacarov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tacarov/32/2132_2.png) [@Tacarov](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tacarov)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 5:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brand-new-hs-guy/54569/6 "2012-02-14T17:17:54Z")
> [@maxx55](#): > > Ok guys. Thank you for your open welcomes. A few more questions though. What about products like A314 and Instant Jerk? I was really hoping to eventually find a good mix for me based on A314, and Instant Jerk seems like it would be fun to use a few times. And also I understand spaceland isn’t available anymore, is there a good substitute for a straight up awesome off the wall party vibe? > > And is it possible to create the fallout effect without A314? A314 is nice, dont get me wrong, but at has a nasty tendency of being intimidating. Now this can be minimized, yet the general description is would be ultra high status alpha male. This may cause the girls your age to be intimidated while causing the same effect in the guys, except that they may chose to get angry or upset. There are a few posts on beta males reactions when exposed to a high alpha signature somewhere on the forums I’ll see if I can dig them up for you. I would guess these reactions could be intensified based on the high school environment. There is also an interesting thread about someone using a314 in college and noticing that the professors began treating him a bit more like a colleague and the other students began to distance themselves from him. Might not be the best think to start out with, maybe leave it for a later order. I’ll let someone else talk about IJ I’ve only ever had a togo bottle of it and most of that spilled in a pants pocket. The fallout effect, at least based on what I’ve read is a term for a girl becoming obsessed at keeping you based on the high status she sees in you. I dont see why this couldn’t be created a number of ways, a314 just tends to provide such a high status signature that it is often talked about in relation to fallout. Spaceland relied partly on extremely high doses of nols, I believe the same effect could be created with a blend of IO or IH with some IS. This last part is speculation though, I never picked up a bottle of it nor did it interest me too much at the time when it was around so I have not done any real research into it. I’m just recalling what I have read in passing. ---
**Author:** ![maxx55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@maxx55](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maxx55)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brand-new-hs-guy/54569/7 "2012-02-14T17:29:58Z")
That explained fallout perfectly to me 🙂 Also I know I’m asking a lot of questions before I’ve even used a consumer line [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) lol, but I’ve been interested in P83 also (reported crush effects and apparently they’re effective). Would P83 be good to use with the products you recommended to me? ---
**Author:** ![Tacarov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tacarov/32/2132_2.png) [@Tacarov](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tacarov)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 5:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brand-new-hs-guy/54569/8 "2012-02-14T17:39:55Z")
> [@maxx55](#): > > That explained fallout perfectly to me 🙂 Also I know I’m asking a lot of questions before I’ve even used a consumer line pheromone lol, but I’ve been interested in P83 also (reported crush effects and apparently they’re effective). Would P83 be good to use with the products you recommended to me? p83 is quite interesting, but I would advise you to stay away for the experimental mones until you are well versed with the normal ones from the instant line. One of the issues being that the consumer line carries a money back guarente while the putatives and experimental mixes are just that. No guarantee and are actually supposed to be tested blind, without any prior knowledge of their supposed effects. Once you have tested normal mones, you are more apt to be able to pick up on the possible effects of the putatives. All that being said if you do decide to get p83 I think you would like it, though I wouldn’t exactly classify it as crush like. Common reports are that it can promote physical closeness / decrease inhibitions. It seems to build on and add to what is already in the mix and the chemistry you have with whomever you are with. ---
**Author:** ![maxx55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@maxx55](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maxx55)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brand-new-hs-guy/54569/9 "2012-02-14T17:47:57Z")
Sounds interesting. And what a product like IFM? I know it’s not in production anymore due to A1 effects (or something like that), but would you recommend a mix that has similar effects to me? I dont want to give off a “just friends” vibe ever. I’m going for a “woah that’s one badass sexy datable guy” vibe. Again I know pheromones are just tools, but trust me. I believe I can use them very effectively 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brand-new-hs-guy/54569/10 "2012-02-14T18:34:35Z")
> [@maxx55](#): > > I dont want to give off a “just friends” vibe ever. I’m going for a “woah that’s one badass sexy datable guy” vibe. Then why on earth are you dwelling so much on A1? That is one phero that tends to be far too friendly on its own and even when used with quite potent none, status or impact pheros, does tend to bring a particularly effective softening/moderation quality to a mix. ---
**Author:** ![maxx55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@maxx55](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maxx55)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brand-new-hs-guy/54569/11 "2012-02-14T19:14:08Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Then why on earth are you dwelling so much on A1? That is one phero that tends to be far too friendly on its own and even when used with quite potent none, status or impact pheros, does tend to bring a particularly effective softening/moderation quality to a mix. Thanks for the heads up. I read that A1 helps with having girl have “lingering thoughts” about the user and people have reported crush effect using it. I really liked it’s self effects, but if it goes against my goal then I’ll just drop it. ---
**Author:** ![Tacarov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tacarov/32/2132_2.png) [@Tacarov](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tacarov)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 7:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brand-new-hs-guy/54569/12 "2012-02-14T19:20:15Z")
> [@maxx55](#): > > Thanks for the heads up. I read that A1 helps with having girl have “lingering thoughts” about the user and people have reported crush effect using it. I really liked it’s self effects, but if it goes against my goal then I’ll just drop it. Like I said before, the amount you are getting on you after washing and rinsing via dial magnetic may be negligible. Your self effects could be based on the placebo effect. ---
**Author:** ![maxx55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@maxx55](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maxx55)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brand-new-hs-guy/54569/13 "2012-02-14T20:21:22Z")
> [@Tacarov](#): > > Like I said before, the amount you are getting on you after washing and rinsing via dial magnetic may be negligible. Your self effects could be based on the placebo effect. That’s possible. But in that case I had some VERY POWERFUL placebo effects but I also put that into consideration later. ---
**Author:** ![maxx55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@maxx55](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maxx55)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brand-new-hs-guy/54569/14 "2012-02-14T20:38:32Z")
Also, just wondering, do I qualify or the GC? ---
**Author:** ![maxx55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@maxx55](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maxx55)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 4:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brand-new-hs-guy/54569/15 "2012-02-15T04:43:34Z")
Also a few more things about me. It seems that in middle school I attracted plenty of girls without really even trying. The problem is that I had no idea how to tell an IOI. I didnt even know what an IOI was back then. After going into highschool, I began to think about all the girls that I used to be around in middle school. My problem was that I had oneitis in 8th grade and didnt pay any attention to the other girls (even though I was attracted to them) and I was too afraid to make a move. I manned up over that summer and I have changed a lot. I used to study PUA in sophomore year (I dont intend on ONS, I want LTRs) to study how to attract girls. I had two targets and I was never anymore than a friend to them. So I called PUA bs because I had no results at all. The PUA that was most interesting to me was Vin Dicarlo and secondly The Gambler. I believed in Natural PUA. I didn’t get much info relating to HS PUA. I also studied pimp game and how to be a player (again just to get into LTR). In middle school, there was one girl who crushed on me really hard and I had never even spoken to her and she one day said I was “sooo hot” and asked me out. I didnt realize she was serious until the last day of school she got on her knees and asked me to go out with her. Another girl also crushed on me and I had never spoken to her. There were more but I dont enough time now to give more detail. And also I was the son of a teacher that worked at the same school and a lot of the students did know her or have her (just saying it if it makes a difference). Anyway I’ve dropped PUA completely and just rely on myself now. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 6:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brand-new-hs-guy/54569/16 "2012-02-15T06:57:21Z")
> [@maxx55](#): > > Also, just wondering, do I qualify or the GC? I would think so - Mickaelia is round every day or two to issue them - watch your inbox. ---
**Author:** ![Seeusmile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Seeusmile](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Seeusmile)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 7:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brand-new-hs-guy/54569/17 "2012-02-15T07:46:09Z")
> [@maxx55](#): > > Also a few more things about me. It seems that in middle school I attracted plenty of girls without really even trying. The problem is that I had no idea how to tell an IOI. I didnt even know what an IOI was back then. After going into highschool, I began to think about all the girls that I used to be around in middle school. My problem was that I had oneitis in 8th grade and didnt pay any attention to the other girls (even though I was attracted to them) and I was too afraid to make a move. I manned up over that summer and I have changed a lot. I used to study PUA in sophomore year (I dont intend on ONS, I want LTRs) to study how to attract girls. I had two targets and I was never anymore than a friend to them. So I called PUA bs because I had no results at all. The PUA that was most interesting to me was Vin Dicarlo and secondly The Gambler. I believed in Natural PUA. I didn’t get much info relating to HS PUA. I also studied pimp game and how to be a player (again just to get into LTR). In middle school, there was one girl who crushed on me really hard and I had never even spoken to her and she one day said I was “sooo hot” and asked me out. I didnt realize she was serious until the last day of school she got on her knees and asked me to go out with her. Another girl also crushed on me and I had never spoken to her. There were more but I dont enough time now to give more detail. And also I was the son of a teacher that worked at the same school and a lot of the students did know her or have her (just saying it if it makes a difference). Anyway I’ve dropped PUA completely and just rely on myself now. I’ve pretty much gone a bit through the same thing as you are. I’m currently having a Oneits with a girl while not realising there’s clearly better women out there. Studied alot of PUA ,Magic bullets, Pandoras box-vindicarlo, carlos xuma, lovesystems etc. Now i’m cutting down on that and investing on myself with the assist of pheromones that would improve what we call ‘inner game’ Anyway Welcome abboard to the forums 😃 ---
**Author:** ![maxx55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@maxx55](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maxx55)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 12:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brand-new-hs-guy/54569/18 "2012-02-15T12:50:19Z")
> [@Seeusmile](#): > > I’ve pretty much gone a bit through the same thing as you are. I’m currently having a Oneits with a girl while not realising there’s clearly better women out there. Studied alot of PUA ,Magic bullets, Pandoras box-vindicarlo, carlos xuma, lovesystems etc. Now i’m cutting down on that and investing on myself with the assist of pheromones that would improve what we call ‘inner game’ Anyway Welcome abboard to the forums 😃 Thanks man! I believe that I have loads of untapped potential and that over time I’d learn how to use it but with pheromones I’ll get acess to it much sooner. ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 12:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brand-new-hs-guy/54569/19 "2012-02-21T12:24:01Z")
Welcome to pherotalk Maxx! You seem pretty young to be interested in pheromones and you seem to take this interest quite seriously so I commend that. Yes, you did qualify the gc and it was issued, if you still haven’t received it please pm me. Your gc was issued! ---
**Author:** ![maxx55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@maxx55](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maxx55)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 3:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/brand-new-hs-guy/54569/20 "2012-02-21T15:05:02Z")
Yes I received the email saying it was issued. Thank you 🙂